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How/When will your God be proven?

The Anointed

Well-Known Member
Technically, the BB scenario doesn't *require* a singularity. It is just implied by General Relativity. But a quantum thoery of gravity may avoid such.



Hmm...photons are massless, have no charge and yet carry momentum and angular momentum. Thi sis known and measured.



This looks like they at least have a clue:
Origin of modern dog has a single geographic origin, study reveals
Dogs likely originated in the Middle East, new genetic data indicate
Ancient hybridization key to domestic dog's origin, wolf conservation efforts

The Anointed...…. Like I said, the evolutionists can only tell you that they believe the dog evolved from the wolves and that they "LIKELY" originated in the Middle East.


Polymath257 wrote……. Technically, the BB scenario doesn't *require* a singularity. It is just implied by General Relativity. But a quantum thoery of gravity may avoid such.

The Anointed……. You will have noticed that I do not refer to the singularity, but to the SUPPOSED singularity.

It is my belief that the electromagnetic energy, from and by which this universe was created, exploded out of a White Hole, that was connected by a Worm Hole or ‘Einstein Rosen bridge’ to a Black Hole into which the universe had fallen and was torn apart Molecule by molecule, atom by atom, sub-atomic particle by sub-atomic particle and reconverted to the electromagnetic energy from which it had been created, which was then accelerated through the worm hole to speeds far, far in excess to the speed of light, and spewed out in the trillions of degrees way beyond the cosmic horizon, and resurrected to continue on in the eternal process of evolution, where the light from its old position in this eternal and boundless cosmos, would take billions upon billions of years to reach it.

From Wikipedi…. The Great Attractor: what is this thing?

The smallest unit of galaxies out there is our local group, comprising the Milky Way, the Andromeda galaxy and about 50 others. The Local Group is in turn part of the Virgo Supercluster containing some 40,000 members. Beyond all this is an unseen object called the Great Attractor which is pulling the Milky Way and all else towards it at the terrific speed of 14 million mph. What is this thing, how far away is it, and what will happen when we reach it? No one knows.

Detailed observations of the galaxies around us indicate that there is superposed on the Hubble flow a large-scale streaming motion of about 600 km/s in the general direction of the constellation Centaurus.

This mass migration includes the Local Group, the Virgo Cluster, the Hydra--Centaurus Supercluster, and other groups and clusters for a distance of at least 60 Mpc up and downstream from us. It is as if a great river of galaxies (including our own) is flowing with a swift current of 600 km/s toward Centaurus.

Calculations indicate that ~1016 solar masses concentrated 65 Mpc away in the direction of Centaurus would account for this. This mass concentration has been dubbed the Great Attractor. Detailed investigation of that region of the galaxy cluster Abell 3627) finds 10 times too little visible matter to account for this flow, again implying a dominant gravitational role for unseen or dark matter. Thus, the Great Attractor is certainly there (because we see its gravitational influence), but the major portion of the mass that must be there cannot be seen in our telescopes.

Enoch, the only man recorded in the Scriptures to have been carried to the throne of the Most High in the creation, and who was anointed as his successor, was then escorted to the ends of time, where he witnessed the universe burn up and fall as massive columns of fire, beyond all measure in height and depth into the GREAT ABYSS, [Black Hole] which is described by Enoch, as the prison of all the stars and the host of heaven, beyond which, there was nothing.

In 1935, Einstein and physicist Nathan Rosen used the theory of general relativity to elaborate on the idea of black holes and worm holes, proposing the existence of "bridges" through space-time. These bridges connect two different points in space-time, theoretically creating a shortcut that could reduce travel time and distance; Billions of light years to mere metres.

According to general relativity, the gravitational collapse of a sufficiently compact mass forms a singular Schwarzschild black hole. In the Einstein–Cartan–Sciama–Kibble theory of gravity, however, it forms a regular Einstein–Rosen bridge.

The gravitational collapse of a single small star such as the star of our solar system, can only form a White Dwarf, the gravitational collapse of bigger stars can create a neutron star, or a Black Hole, depending on its mass, but not necessarily a Worm Hole.

A worm Hole could theoretically be used as a method of sending information or travelers through space, unfortunately, physical matter which includes humans journeying through the space tunnels would appear to be an impossibility as there are strong indications that material objects travelling through a worm hole is forbidden by the law of physics.

But now that it has been discovered that Physical matter is but an illusion, and all is, but the eternal energy, perhaps one day new technology may develop a way to teleport bodies of energy along light beams and reconstruct them to their original form, with no damage done. Wormholes may not only connect two separate regions within the universe, they could also connect two different universes.

"Beam me up Scotty."
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Which scientific theory do you accept as the origin of this universe

There is no theory on the origins of the universe. It is an unknown.


, The Big Bang Theory, seems to be the most popular

That's a theory on the development of the universe. The early universe in particular. But not its ultimate origins.

so I will ask again; "Which scientific theory do you accept as the origin of this universe?"

And I will answer again: none, because there is none.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
If you believe the Big Bang theory, you must accept that at the instant of the supposed singularity being spatially separated, the expanding space was filled with nothing but a plasma-like soup of electromagnetic energy in the trillions and trillions of degrees. You must also believe that it was that energy which has neither beginning or end, that has become this universe and all herein, and that the quantum of that eternal energy is the wave-like particles, which are not particles at all, as they have zero mass and no electric charge, and yet they carry angular and linear momentum.

Your argument from incredulity is noted.

Having said that, the big bang model is pretty succesfull in predicting data of reality and it is quite testable. Some of its predictions can be tested and confirmed to ridiculous degrees of accuracy.

That makes it quite a solid model.

Does that mean that it is True, capital 'T'? No. But it does mean that it is fully consistent and demonstrably accurate and solid in provisional ways.


But if you believe in the theory of Evolution without intelligent design, then you must believe that a universe of mindless matter created all the life within this boundless cosmos, and your scientific evolutionists, should be able to tell you how a dog was created by your universe of mindless matter.


Your argument from incredulity is again noted.
Meanwhile, the evolution model is once again solid and testable to an absurdly detailed degree.
So much so that one could call it the most solid, most evidenced theory in all of science.

I myself believe in the process of evolution. I believe that the space station and all its earthly support systems, has evolved from the wheel over thousands of years, but evolved through intelligent design.

Evolution doesn't include a "designer".
You can't say that you accept evolution and then turn around that you don't while pretending that you do.
 
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