Ardhanariswar
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The same could be said about rape.
Yes, that very same.
Really? Please elaborate.
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The same could be said about rape.
Yes, that very same.
Really? Please elaborate.
Well, not al species have the ability to rape. Humans and ape-likes do have it, it happens in nature all the time. (because it is easier to grab the female's limbs because of upposable thumbs and because of other factors I've heard)
If people of the past hadn't took whicever like9 or 10 year old they found and raped her, then less human babies would have been had, and considering the high weakness of our species our chances would have been dramatically lower.
Times change. We've gotten better in a lot of things. The ADA (american Dietary association) says that a good vegetarian diet is healthy for all the stages of development of a human being and even high performance atletes.
My argument for an omnivorous diet is that it's beneficial for an individual's health from an evolutionary perspective. Simply put, we're meant to eat animals because we're made to eat them. Rape on the other hand does not affect heath of an individual.
I'm happy that's working out for you! Unfortunately with obesity, heart attacks, and diabetes on the rise, I find it hard to believe such a diet low in healthy fat and high in carbohydrates from grains can be possibly beneficial for most Americans.
may be, but it does not mean humans should necessarily continue that, we are no more apes.But humans have certainly evolved as a result of our omnivorousness,
i dont think humans are designed to be omnivorous, our teeths and digestive system are not like those of other carnivorous or omnivorous, digesting raw meat is not that easy for us.we are designed specifically for that.
humans can live on fruits, like monkeys do.And cows are designed for their specific diet as well. Humans cannot live off grass, and cows cannot live off of other animals. It's impossible.
debates are useless, let people decide whats good for them, people wont give up their cravings at any cost.It's a matter of debate honestly whether or not animal products are necessary.
the data is insufficient for this conclusion, there can be many factors to cause diabetes, close scientific studies are needed to find the exact reason.It's no coincidence that India, a predominantly vegetarian country, as has some of the highest rates of diabetes in the world.
this does not mean we should live on meat.Clearly we haven't evolved to live mainly on grains.
correct, but not all paths will lead to the same goal.My point is, there are different yogas, different paths which all lead to the same goal.
i agreeIt depends on the individual. So yes, if the life of an empty, passionless acetic is appealing to you, then by all means go for it! But this doesn't mean that its the optimal path for everyone who follows Hinduism.
ascetism is not that easy,it is not a surprise that most people dont live such life, but they do respect ascetic people.Most Indians don't live the life of an acetic. I for one, want to actually live my life and enjoy it passionately.
you are absolutely wrong there, actually non-vegetarianism is the recent development.Most of you forget that vegetarianism is a fairly recent development when compared to the long history of Indian civilization.
such yagnas even happen these days, does that mean eating meat is very common? terrible generalization.In the Vedic period, animal sacrifices in the form of Yagnas and meat eating was very common.
there is not enough records to prove this, not to forget that today even dalai lama consumes meat.Only when Jainism and Buddhism began to flourish in India, was vegetarianism adopted by Hindus.
have you ever tried to be vegetarian? harm in what sense?It would do my body more harm to lead a vegetarian lifestyle.
depends on how you define 'health'It is more healthy for my body to consume the healthy saturated fats of an animal, full of nutrients and complete proteins, which cannot be found in non-animal sources.
may be, but it does not mean humans should necessarily continue that, we are no more apes.
i dont think humans are designed to be omnivorous, our teeths and digestive system are not like those of other carnivorous or omnivorous, digesting raw meat is not that easy for us.
humans can live on fruits, like monkeys do.
the data is insufficient for this conclusion, there can be many factors to cause diabetes, close scientific studies are needed to find the exact reason.
this does not mean we should live on meat.
you are absolutely wrong there, actually non-vegetarianism is the recent development.
there is not enough records to prove this, not to forget that today even dalai lama consumes meat.
depends on how you define 'health'
to me health is absense of disease, having flexible body, enough strength(i dont want to be a wrestler), feeling light etc, so far vegetarian diet is doing pretty good for me.
Yes it is possibly to be vegetarian and avoid grains, lentils, and fruit. As an omnivore I love vegetables as much as a vegetarian. My only issue is that a pure vegetable diet lacks nutrient density and complete protein.
Sure nuts and seeds contain some protein, but the bio availability is very low. Compare that to animals, which are everywhere. Its the perfect food for humans as they contain all the complete amino acids (protein) for humans, all the nutrients humans will ever need, as well as healthy saturated fats.
Complete protein consists in protein that has the 8 essential aminoacids, all of which can be found in a vegetarian diet through the day, and with certain products like Quinoa and Soy, all in one vegetable.
Animals are everywhere because we breed them to be. That is going to eventually burn us all to death (quite literaly) unless we stop immidiately.
Quinoa is a grain (mostly carbohydrates), and soy isn't available everywhere, especially India. Raw, unprocessed soy contains toxins like phytic acid and phytoestrogens, which disrupt the human endocrine system.
Environmental reasons are there of course, but you cannot argue against animal eating entirely because factory farming is only part of the meat industry. Pasture raised animals are becoming more popular with those that can afford it, and is actually much better for the local environment.
Quite literally?
Please bow out if you cannot debate intelligently.
Most of the enviromental problems of today would reduce dramaticlaly if people became vegetarian or at least consumed meat, let's say 1/8 of what they do now.
Animals are everywhere because we breed them to be. That is going to eventually burn us all to death (quite literaly) unless we stop immidiately.
About Diabetes, American asociation of Diabetes sees vegetarianism as a good idea:
Meal Planning for Vegetarian Diets - American Diabetes Association
extract:
Is it safe for someone with diabetes to follow a vegetarian diet?
Yes! A vegetarian diet is a healthy option, even if you have diabetes. Research supports that following this type of diet can help prevent and manage diabetes. In fact, research on vegan diets has found that carb and calorie restrictions were not necessary and still promoted weight loss and lowered participants' A1C.
Vegan diets are naturally higher in fiber, much lower in saturated fat, and cholesterol-free when compared to a traditional American diet. The high fiber in this diet may help you feel full for a longer time after eating and may help you eat less over all. When fiber intake is greater than 50 grams per day on a vegan diet, it may help lower blood glucose levels.
This diet also tends to cost less. Meat, poultry, and fish are usually the most expensive foods we eat.
I am absolutely wrong? Animal eating was written in the Manu Smriti, which was written sometime between 200 BC and 200 AD. Only after Buddhist and Jain influence afterward, did most Hindus adopt vegetarianism.
Any diet is better than the standard American diet, including veganism and vegetarianism. Any diet will cut out processed junk food and allow the human body to eat clean natural foods.
If you read one of my earlier posts, I mentioned why you cannot trust the ADA which is backed by companies in the grain and sugar industries. Of course they would support diets high in grains and sugar (aka Veganism/vegetarianism) rather than diets fairly low in carbohydrates (low-carb, atkins, or even Paleo/Primal).
Recent scientific studies (such as the ones I posted in my previous post) show that high carbohydrate diets increases an individuals risk for diabetes, obesity, and heart disease. Saturated fats are actually healthy, and there is no evidence to support a link between dietary cholesterol intake and blood cholesterol in any negative way.
Science trumps government any day. Especially when Congress allows Pizza to be considered a vegetable for school lunches, they really do have our best interests in mind!