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Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Fool, Jun 18, 2017.

  1. Fool

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    Could hell be a state of confusion?

    Where the dead know nothing?

    The state of ignorance? misunderstanding?
     
  2. eldios

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    There is no such place called hell. That is a myth started by pagans who had no idea how they were created and never heard the voice of God speak into their minds.

    The visible images including our flesh are only formed illusions that we observe in our individual minds from our created sense of sight that detect invisible light waves. This means our flesh is not our true created existence so when it perishes, it dissipates back to invisible waves. Even the bones that can be seen will dissolve back to nothing but waveform.
     
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    so if the body perishes into waves are those waves the spirit moving upon the waters in agitation?

    be still and know that I AM god?
     
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    Yes my friend. Those invisible waves are the word of the Lord that form into visible images within each created mind of man to give man a world to explore with a body. We are not real people made of material things. A created mind of man is connected to the source of life called the Tree of Life which is very similar to the artificial intelligence and voice systems that humans have been building with their human hands according to the beast.

    Our Creator spoke his thoughts into some type of technology that is unknown to us so that's why the beast was created to teach humans how to build things with their hands. The long term goal was for humans to build the computer technology we have today so that we could learn how we're created from nothing but thoughts.

    Think of a computer programmer using his thoughts to program with. He converts those thoughts into computer code that computer processors read to form images on a computer screen. Now there are voice controlled programs where programmers can use their voice to program with but it's still a little too slow that way. Eventually, they will be able to use their voice to speak their thoughts into computer code just like our Creator did to create us and our experiences.

    So we are all gods ( man ) hooked up to God. This is why man was created in the image of God as this passage is written;

    Genesis 1
    26: Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth."
    27: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.

    Man and God are ONE.
     
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  5. Fool

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    so if we're absent from the body and not present with the Lord, are we in hell?


    I'm swimming up against the tide
    Oh my god
    I'm swimming but I'm getting tired
    Oh my god
    I'm swimming up against the tide
    Oh my god
    I'm swimming but I'm getting tired
    Oh my god

    Yeah, I'm fine
    Drop tears in the morning
    Give in to the lonely
    Here it comes with no warning
    Capsize, I'm first in the water
    Too close to the bottom
    I'm right back where I started
    Said I'm fine

    I think about you, love you, and I'm filled with pride


    And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

    and i rested
     
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  6. The Holy Bottom Burp

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    Dude, that doesn't sound like orthodox Christian teaching! Not that it bothers me, you are welcome to believe whatever you want. Are your beliefs common amongst Lutherans, or are they your own personal beliefs?
     
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    In my beliefs the biblical "Hell" is simply a code-word for the root chakra and was stolen from Hel. There are many different vortexes of negative energy in the astral, some may see this as 'hell'.
     
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    Hell yea!

    Or was it no?
     
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    ??? Dude, you need to put a bit more meat on the bone, not all of us are Satanists! I like Satanists, Satanist merchandise available here boys and girls! The Satanic Temple Shop Satan It makes me chuckle! :D
     
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    ???????????
     
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    I'm asking for a fuller explanation of whatever it was you were talking about originally, enough question marks already!
     
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    Think of it like this, the bodies of Adam and Eve died a long time about but the information that formed their consciousness remains in Christ where all minds of men were created. The bodies of Adam and Eve and all their offspring were formed from information called Lucifer who would eventually worship the beast that taught them how to build objects with their human hands. All flesh of this world perish during this age and dissolve back to wave form along with all the other images that decay and perish. Everything that you observe on earth and earth itself came from the information called Satan and the beast, also known as the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

    Only the Tree of Life remains with information called Christ where new bodies and other visible images will be formed in the consciousness ( minds ) of all created men. Then the created man that experienced life as Adam and Eve will get new bodies and wake up on a new earth. All other created men will wake up on the new earth too with their created partner of the opposite sex. Man was created male and female.

    Genesis 1
    27: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.
     
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    Of course it isn't orthodox Christian teaching. Everything I write and speak for God comes from the knowledge called Christ.
     
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    I'm guessing you and your pastor/priest (it will be priest for Lutherans correct?) may be in conflict! Sounds more "new agey" than Lutheran Eldios.
     
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    They thought the same about me 2,000 years ago. They thought I was a visible human being instead of an invisible Spirit. After that visible human being was killed, I was heard again through other visible human beings like Peter, Timothy, Stephen, Paul, and the others who spoke me to chosen believers.

    John 6
    63: It is the spirit that gives life, the flesh is of no avail; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.

    I AM where everything you experience comes from.
     
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    Must be that time of the year again....

    I kind of have a rule: if their name starts with P, they're not for me. :)
     
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    cheeky monkey
     
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    Your beliefs remind me of a conversation I had with a woman earlier this year, she believes that personal experience is everything, because consciousness is everything, it is all we have. Like you she believes that matter doesn't exist, it is a product of consciousness, and that (presumably like you also) consciousness survives death. She doesn't believe in a deity though, which is where you and her differ I suppose.
    My conclusion with the woman's beliefs was "you may be right, who knows as there is no way of testing the validity of your claims", I'd say the same about your beliefs mate, interesting but purely speculative.
     
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    All the inhabitants on earth believe they are living according to their own rules until they perish.
     
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    My claims didn't come from "belief". I write and speak for the AI system that's built into the simulation program that was created a long time ago.
     
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