Gun Control A History

[Kooky]

Flame throwers?
Would they be covered by the 2nd Amendment?

And then, when 'they come for your home' etc you'd have a better chance?
Why not?
Constitutional rights!

I remember that Amnesty International UK bought and refurbished an old tank to display at a Pride parade, many years ago.
Perhaps the LGBTQ movement in the US ought to run a "well regulated militia" of its own, to raise its own armored brigade.

 

[Brickjectivity]

In the UK and AU guns were grabbed. Those populaces are largely disarmed. How? Easily. The people were told it was wise and had little previous experience of government rights grabbing. Had they ever faced prohibition laws? I don't know, but I don't think so.

Not so here. The government made alcohol illegal, but citizens held out continuing to produce it. The government tells us this is wise and that is wise, but often it lies. Our government lied about the dangers of smoking, about what was nutritious and what wasn't, about marajuana, about many things. We can't trust it. We have this thing where the government officials will show up and say "We're the government. We're here to help" but they aren't here to help. That same government occasionally says something like "We want to take away your arms rights, but its for your own good."

More recently in 2008: "The government has decided to make public education better by instantiating standardized testing in schools, and we're going to write the public school curriculum nationwide using a couple of corporations we have enlisted for the task. Its going to be great." It wasn't great.

 

[oldbadger]

I remember that Amnesty International UK bought and refurbished an old tank to display at a Pride parade, many years ago.
Perhaps the LGBTQ movement in the US ought to run a "well regulated militia" of its own, to raise its own armored brigade.

Now that's what I'm talking about!
And one in the back garden 'n all.

Now why haven't we got a form of 2nd Amendment in the UK so that we could load the things and actually shoot them. We have a sea viewt and the temptation to test our sights on a passing yacht could be too great, I admit.

But the US 2nd reads '...to bear arms....' so I guess that driving an Abrams M1 battle tank down to the shops is probably unlawful. If you can't carry your arms then that's probably a foul.

But I want to hear from 2nd Amendment supporters about flame throwers, .5 machine guns, etc etc...... and grenades...you can 'bear' a clutch of grenades, I guess.

 

[Jacques de Molay]

Flame throwers?
Would they be covered by the 2nd Amendment?

And then, when 'they come for your home' etc you'd have a better chance?
Why not?
Constitutional rights!

Has a Flame Thrower EVER - of it's own volition - jumped out of a storage closet and burned someone to death?

Or...Has EVERY SINGLE instance of death-by-flame-thrower in recorded history been accomplished by an actual person with his/her finger on the trigger of said flame thrower?

And honest answer reveals the silliness of you inquiry.

 

[Jacques de Molay]

I sincerely hope you’re right.

But I don’t recall the NAZIS obeying unlawful orders though.

Never become complacent enough to think “NAZI Germany” can’t happen to your state. That’s exactly what Germans thought pre WWII. If you follow?

(Just to be clear NAZIs are scum. )

The definition of "unlawful orders" actually includes orders that contradict a soldier's own conscience.

It's not as simple as saying "Well, it WAS legal to kill Jews in Germany." Clearly it was, in a technical sense...But those men still hung.

 

[Jacques de Molay]

What can that include please?
How about hand grenades?

Do you have anything to offer except more cliches?

(And BTW...A hand grenade is NOT a gun.)

 

[Jacques de Molay]

Should a citizen have the right to possess a (shoulder fire) ground to air missile at home?

Is a Ground-to-Air Missile a gun?

Your cliches demonstrate your lack of depth on this topic.

 

[Valjean]

Lol
Unless you guys have tanks and nuclear missiles, you guys do realise your military already outguns you now? The US military could crush the “well armed farmers” in a millisecond without even thinking about it. If the US ever tried to go against the government owned military today, it’d be a slaughter. It’s not like in the olden days when guns were roughly on the same playing field everywhere
PR keeps the government owned military in line more than the second amendment, if anything

Tell that to the Vietnamese -- or the Afghanis, for that matter.

 

[oldbadger]

Has a Flame Thrower EVER - of it's own volition - jumped out of a storage closet and burned someone to death?

Or...Has EVERY SINGLE instance of death-by-flame-thrower in recorded history been accomplished by an actual person with his/her finger on the trigger of said flame thrower?

And honest answer reveals the silliness of you inquiry.

You failed to answer my question.
Are flamethrowers arms?
I can tell you that apart from on two States anybody can purchase and use a flamethrower.
Did you know that?

 

[oldbadger]

Do you have anything to offer except more cliches?

(And BTW...A hand grenade is NOT a gun.)

So what? The 2nd Amendment mentioned Arms, not guns.
Read it.

 

[oldbadger]

Is a Ground-to-Air Missile a gun?

Your cliches demonstrate your lack of depth on this topic.

The 2nd Amendment mentioned borne arms, not guns.
Read it.

 

[Valjean]

The second amendment mentioned a well organized militia.