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God's Gender

logician

Well-Known Member
Does a person not have a gender until he or she becomes a parent?

Again, read for understanding, a supposed god has no need to reproduce, thus has no gender. Homo sapiens and all species on earth MUST reproduce in some way for the species to survive, so we have gender.:sleep:
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Again, read for understanding,
I can only read what's written. If you don't communicate your point effectively, don't expect me to understand what you mean.

a supposed god has no need to reproduce, thus has no gender. Homo sapiens and all species on earth MUST reproduce in some way for the species to survive, so we have gender.:sleep:
So a thing only has a particular characteristic when that characteristic has some sort of necessary purpose? :confused:
 

logician

Well-Known Member
I can only read what's written. If you don't communicate your point effectively, don't expect me to understand what you mean.


So a thing only has a particular characteristic when that characteristic has some sort of necessary purpose? :confused:

I made my point very clear, god does NOT NEED TO REPRODUCE - COMPREHENDE?

No gender needed.
 

jtartar

Well-Known Member
This is a serious question I have had which has gone unanswered.

It concerns the God of the Bible (or any God actually). Why is Jehovah a He and not a She?

When I think of gender - or rather the sex of a person - I think of private parts. Girls have girl things and boy have boy things.

Now from what basics I learned in school abut biology and genetics is that if a fetus has an XX chromosomal pair then that causes the endocrine system of the fetus to begin producing female hormones which morphs the fetus into a female proper.

If the fetus has a XY chromosomal pair then the endocrine system of the fetus will produce androgins other such male hormones which turns the fetus into what we know of as a male.

So from what little I know of human language... specifically English... is that if something has the private parts of a XY Male, then we call it a "HE" and if something has the private parts of a XX Female then we call it a "SHE," and if something as no private parts like plants and bugs, then we most often call it an "IT."

Thus, what exactly makes Jehovah a He and not a She or an It? This is a real important question because as far as I know we also ascribe certain forms of the word "god" to things that are either a "he," or a "she," such as "He gods" are Gods, and "She gods" are Goddesses. So the follow up question would be: Why is Jehovah God believed by it's adherents to be a God and not a Goddess?

I assume that Jehovah is some kind of spirit person. When leads me to ask: Does spirit have sex/gender? What is that gender or sex of the spirit based on?

How does a spirit, which to me evokes the thought of "energy" or ghosts, have a sex or gender?

Because to me, as one author I have read said: "Man has always created his gods, rather than his gods creating him." - Anton LaVey

From my perspective and understanding of things, it appears as those we (as in humans) are obviously creating our gods we worship. And that when we create or invent such gods, we often PROJECT our own humanness and what we know and understand of things at a certain moment onto and into the gods we create.

Such as gender for instance. Also such as the so very common human emotion of Jealousy as in how the Bible describes in the 10 Commandments how God is a "Jealous" God, which to me - just my personally opinion and feelings - is a really petty emotion for a god of any kind to have.

I also see this "human projectionism" in God in "His" other all too human qualities and characteristics. He is spiteful and vengeful... he plays favorites with Jews and not gentiles... he needs to rest for at least a day out of the work week... he's even described in many places in the Bible with human bodily things like legs and arms and a head and face... he sits on a throne like a king (I wonder where they got that idea from).

We or I, see this human projectionism too in Jesus and Marry, and the angles. Why isn't Jesus black or Asian? Why do the angles look like white men in robes? How come I never seen an angle with an afro?

But I'm not just picking on the God of Christianity either. Because if you look at the Buddha in China he looks Chinese? Then if you go to Southeast Asia the Buddha looks Khmer, or Thai. And if you go to India he end up looking Indian.

Now we are seeing this same human projectionism in the field of current religion in regards to what new sciences and technological advancements we have had such that now you have wackos like Sitchen in his 12th planet Saga and von Daniken saying that aliens came to the earth and mixed their genes with ape women?

Or more bizarre is the Joy of Satan and how their Satan is some alien who was a genetic engineer named Enki that made humans.

Doesn't it become visible to see this human projectionism when we study closely all human religions and gods our species as a whole have been writing about and worshiping since the first stanzas of the Vedas written by unknown hands to the wacko alien cults cropping up today that we actually do create our gods and not vise versa? Or do most of us need a few thousand more years of this religion and god thing to pass before we come to the conclusion?

Why is Jehovah God a He and not a Goddess?

SugaCubez,
You have stated what man has done for many , many years. He has created his gods. The reason man has created gods is that God, when He created , man, put within him the need to worship something greater than himself.
It is comical to read some of the words that Jehovah God had written in His Book, The Holy Bible. Consider Isa 44:14-17, where it is shone how a person cuts down a tree and uses part of the tree to make a fire, the other part he carves into a god, and then says: Deliver me, for you are my god. Also Isa 40:18-20.
The truth is: There is only ONE TRUE GOD, even though God allows that some are called gods. John 17:3, Eph 4:4-6. Many powerful men were called gods in the past, even the rulers of Israel, Ps 82:1,6. This is what Jesus was talking about at John 10:33-36. Jesus is called a god at Isa 9:6. Jesus can be a god to man, but to the Almighty God Jehovah, Jesus is His SON, who He created, Col 1:15, Rev 3:14.
To the ALMIGHTY, all others are very inferior. Even the ones around Him are in AWE of Him, He is fearinspiring to all around Him, Ps 86:8,10, 89:5-7, 95:3, 96:4.
God says that all other gods are valueless gods and He is going to destroy all other non-existent gods, along with all who worship non-existent gods, Ps 115:1-8.
The reason we call Jehovah a HE, is because He says that He is. Remember, it is God Himself, who inspired His word to be written, and He always uses the masculine pronouns for Himself, 2Tim 3:16,17, 2Pet 1:20,21. Jehovah is THE SPIRIT, so He does not have any of the things that make up a fleshly person's gender. God has made man the dominant gender and given man the leadership role, this is especially so in the religious sense. Men are responsible to teach their wives and children, Reut 6:4-9, Eph 5:22-25, Col 3:18-21, 1Cor 11:3-16.
Ex 15:3 says that God is a Manly Person of War
 

Mr Cheese

Well-Known Member
This is a serious question I have had which has gone unanswered.

It concerns the God of the Bible (or any God actually). Why is Jehovah a He and not a She?

When I think of gender - or rather the sex of a person - I think of private parts. Girls have girl things and boy have boy things.

Now from what basics I learned in school abut biology and genetics is that if a fetus has an XX chromosomal pair then that causes the endocrine system of the fetus to begin producing female hormones which morphs the fetus into a female proper.

If the fetus has a XY chromosomal pair then the endocrine system of the fetus will produce androgins other such male hormones which turns the fetus into what we know of as a male.

So from what little I know of human language... specifically English... is that if something has the private parts of a XY Male, then we call it a "HE" and if something has the private parts of a XX Female then we call it a "SHE," and if something as no private parts like plants and bugs, then we most often call it an "IT."

Thus, what exactly makes Jehovah a He and not a She or an It? This is a real important question because as far as I know we also ascribe certain forms of the word "god" to things that are either a "he," or a "she," such as "He gods" are Gods, and "She gods" are Goddesses. So the follow up question would be: Why is Jehovah God believed by it's adherents to be a God and not a Goddess?

I assume that Jehovah is some kind of spirit person. When leads me to ask: Does spirit have sex/gender? What is that gender or sex of the spirit based on?

How does a spirit, which to me evokes the thought of "energy" or ghosts, have a sex or gender?

Because to me, as one author I have read said: "Man has always created his gods, rather than his gods creating him." - Anton LaVey

From my perspective and understanding of things, it appears as those we (as in humans) are obviously creating our gods we worship. And that when we create or invent such gods, we often PROJECT our own humanness and what we know and understand of things at a certain moment onto and into the gods we create.

Such as gender for instance. Also such as the so very common human emotion of Jealousy as in how the Bible describes in the 10 Commandments how God is a "Jealous" God, which to me - just my personally opinion and feelings - is a really petty emotion for a god of any kind to have.

I also see this "human projectionism" in God in "His" other all too human qualities and characteristics. He is spiteful and vengeful... he plays favorites with Jews and not gentiles... he needs to rest for at least a day out of the work week... he's even described in many places in the Bible with human bodily things like legs and arms and a head and face... he sits on a throne like a king (I wonder where they got that idea from).

We or I, see this human projectionism too in Jesus and Marry, and the angles. Why isn't Jesus black or Asian? Why do the angles look like white men in robes? How come I never seen an angle with an afro?

But I'm not just picking on the God of Christianity either. Because if you look at the Buddha in China he looks Chinese? Then if you go to Southeast Asia the Buddha looks Khmer, or Thai. And if you go to India he end up looking Indian.

Now we are seeing this same human projectionism in the field of current religion in regards to what new sciences and technological advancements we have had such that now you have wackos like Sitchen in his 12th planet Saga and von Daniken saying that aliens came to the earth and mixed their genes with ape women?

Or more bizarre is the Joy of Satan and how their Satan is some alien who was a genetic engineer named Enki that made humans.

Doesn't it become visible to see this human projectionism when we study closely all human religions and gods our species as a whole have been writing about and worshiping since the first stanzas of the Vedas written by unknown hands to the wacko alien cults cropping up today that we actually do create our gods and not vise versa? Or do most of us need a few thousand more years of this religion and god thing to pass before we come to the conclusion?

Why is Jehovah God a He and not a Goddess?

its called limitations of language....

YHVH

Yod Heh vau Heh

Yod and Vau are male
Heh is female

Thus "Jehova" is male AND female

:sleep:
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
I made my point very clear, god does NOT NEED TO REPRODUCE - COMPREHENDE?

No gender needed.
Saying that God doesn't need a gender isn't the same thing as saying that God doesn't have a gender.

Don't you have anything you don't need?

You don't need to grow hair, but I bet you've got a hair colour.
 
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