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God is Greater than we Thought

Discussion in 'Monotheism' started by 74x12, Apr 7, 2019.

  1. 74x12

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    Kind of a pun; because all things are the thoughts of God. This was known to some of the ancients but a subject not well known to modern people. Few people understand that all things are emanating from the infinite Mind which we call God. That's why we know He's Almighty and why we know He can do anything. That just means He can do anything within this creation; because everything is controlled/directed by His mind. As easily as you can think; God can think and so change anything. If God were to look away --so to speak-- then all things would instantly cease to exist.

    This understanding of what God is and what existence is; led me to question what the Word of God's place was in the creation. If God simply thought all things into existence; then why do we need the Word of God? As the scriptures claim that God spoke all things into existence. Why does God need to speak everything into existence; why not just think only?

    I then came to understand that it's because God's mind is infinite. So how to differentiate between thoughts that God wants to exist and thoughts He does not want to exist? So then, the Word of God establishes all things that God wishes to exist. Otherwise there would be chaos. All things existing that could possibly be conceived to exist.

    So God ordered all things with His Word. He calls things out of the abyss --which is chaos-- and forms them. All the universe therefore is emanating from the infinite mind of God and upheld by the Word of God.

    This does seem to suggest that the universe is digital as some people are now theorizing and that it does have a "source code" which is the Word of God. Our modern understanding of computer programming has led us to this greater understanding of how the universe might actually work.
     
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    Jesus is the very person of the invisible God. The person of God veiled in human flesh. The flesh is what is the "express image of God" because the flesh is created. But the person of God was within the flesh.
     
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    Yes! The person of the invisible God, was within the man Jesus who was born of the relationship between Mary and her half-brother Joseph, who were both sired by Alexander Helios, called Heli.

    The Lord God our savior, (The Son of Man) had previously descended from his heights in time and said to Moses in Deuteronomy 18: 18-19; “I will raise up for them a prophet just like you from among their own brethren; and I will put MY WORDS into his mouth, and I will punish anyone who does not Heed MY WORDS which he shall speak in MY NAME.”

    This happened when Jesus came up from the baptismal waters of the Jordan, and the spirit (MY WORDS ARE SPIRIT) of the Lord God our savior descended upon him in the form of a dove, as the heavenly voice was heard to say; "You are my Son, (My heir and successor) THIS DAY I have begotten thee."

    Spiritual beings do not have the animal power of reproduction, and they must choose their heirs and successors.
     
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    God fulfilled the prophecy of Psalm 2:7 "You are my Son, This day I have begotten thee." at the resurrection of Jesus; not at the baptism in the Jordan.

    When the Spirit descended on Him like a Dove; God did anoint Him as the Messiah(the Anointed One) and God said "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased." (Matthew 3:17)

    But God did not say "This day I have begotten thee." That is about the resurrection from the dead according to the apostles themselves as in Acts 13:33, Colossians 1:18, Revelation 1:5 and especially Romans 1:4.

    Romans 1:4
    "And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:"

    So it was at the resurrection that God says "This day I have begotten thee."
    As for Jesus speaking God's Words and being that final "prophet" that God said would come. Indeed. Definitely.

    As for God not having an animal power of reproduction ... He doesn't need it. He is a Spirit and so He begets spirits. As it is written "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

    And secondly and more to the point the writer of the book of Hebrews calls God "Father of spirits" in Hebrews 12:9.

    But, finally as the for the "Spirit man" of Jesus Christ. We believe that this Spirit was indeed pre-existent as God Himself and in the form of God (Philippians 2:6) and so He embodied the human form prepared for Him. (Hebrews 10:5)

    This human form would be the "Lamb of God" that takes away the sins of the world. Also the "veil" of the temple that separates the holiest of holies. By death He gives access and so the veil was torn in half showing that the way into the holiest place is now accessible where the mercy seat is; otherwise known as the throne of grace. (Hebrews 4:16)

    So Jesus is the Lamb (John 1:29), the High priest (Hebrews 7:27), the temple (John 2:19) and no surprise; also the God of the temple.
     
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    74x12 Wrote...….. God fulfilled the prophecy of Psalm 2:7 "You are my Son, This day I have begotten thee." at the resurrection of Jesus; not at the baptism in the Jordan.

    The Anointed...…. So you believe, that the man Jesus, did not become a son of God until after the Lord God our saviour had risen him from death, am I correct? And you believe that the man Jesus was not begotten of God when he was filled with the Spirit of our Lord God and saviour on the day of his baptism: Am I Correct?

    In Luke 3: 22; (In place of “Thou art my beloved son in who I am well pleased,”) The following authorities of the second, third, and fourth centuries read, “This day I have begotten thee,” vouched for by Codex D, and the most ancient copies of the old Latin (a. b. c. ff. I), by Justin Martyr (AD. 140) Clement Alex, (AD. 1900), Among the Greeks. And among the Latins, Lactaitius (AD. 300) Hilary, Juvencus (AD,330, Faustus (AD.400) and Augustine.

    All these oldest manuscripts were changed completely. They now read, “This is my son in who I am well pleased.” Whereas the original variant was, “Thou art my son. This day I have begotten thee.

    74x12 Wrote...….. When the Spirit descended on Him like a Dove; God did anoint Him as the Messiah (the Anointed One)

    The Anointed...…… The man Jesus, is not ‘The Anointed One,’ but he is the heir and successor to ‘The Anointed One.’ ‘The Son of Man,” who, after choosing the man Jesus as his heir and successor, gave his immortal life for the sins of the body (Mankind) in which he had developed

    Genesis 5: 23; Enoch was 365 and had spent his life in fellowship with God when he disappeared because God had Taken him.

    365, is the number of days in a calendar year. The Lamb of God who takes on the sins of the world is to be a one-year old unblemished Lamb. Enoch the anointed one, is the unblemished Lamb of God.

    Hebrews 11: 5; "By faith Enoch was Translated (To change from one form to another) so that he should not experience death; and he was not found, because God had Translated him.

    Enoch, the chosen cornerstone to who the spirits of the righteous were gathered in the creation of God’s new glorious Temple of Light, which is to replace his temporary tabernacle/tent, (Mankind) where he currently dwells within the innermost sanctuary, behind the veil of the flesh of mankind, as he awaits the creation of his glorious temple of light.

    Enoch, the most important man in the OT and the NT, and yet he has been rejected by both the Jewish church and the Roman church of Emperor Constantine.

    The stone that the builders rejected, turns out to be the most important stone of all.

    Enoch was carried to the throne of the MOST HIGH in the creation.

    "The Book of the Secrets of Enoch" 22: 8; "And I fell prone and bowed down to the Lord, and the Lord with his lips said to me: "Have courage, Enoch, do not fear, arise and stand before my face into eternity."

    And the archistratiege Michael lifted me up, and led me before the Lord’s face.

    [Archistratege. Or, "the commander of the armies of the nations, named Michael."]

    And the Most High, (who held the ransom blood of righteous Abel, which could save but one man) said to the glorious creatures that surrounded him, tempting them: "Let Enoch stand before my face into eternity," and the glorious creatures bowed down to the Lord, and said: "Let Enoch go [Or be released] according to Thy word." Enoch, was the first to be released.

    The Great and glorious simulacrum, of which Enoch was the chosen cornerstone, and which is the sacrifice that God has prepared for us, and which is the blue-print of the new Temple of God which is to replace his old temporary earthly tabernacle/tent [The Body of Mankind] as the ruler of the creation, dies in the process of involution, to be the saviour of we in evolution, This he does by releasing all the righteous spirits that are He, from the least to the greatest, and Enoch was the first.

    And the Lord said to Michael: "Go take Enoch from out his earthly garments, and anoint him with my sweet ointment, and put him into the garments of my glory." [Enoch, is the one who was anointed as the successor to the throne of the MOST HIGH in the creation: CHRIST=The anointed one]

    And Michael did thus as the Lord told him. He anointed me, and dressed me, and the appearance of that ointment is more than the great light, and his ointment is like sweet dew, and its smell mild, shining like the sun’s rays, and I looked at myself, and was like one of his glorious ones.

    The great flood, in which the body of Adam (Pre-flood mankind) was submerged in water and the new man Enoch (The post-flood body of mankind arose) was, according to 1st Peter 3: 21; a symbol of Baptism. Where the old physical man Adam, is submerged and the new spiritual man Enoch arises.

    Noah, his wife, their three sons and their wives are all direct genetic descendants of Enoch, the only man redeemed from the previous world that was destroyed by water, as spoken of by 2nd Peter 3: 5; as Noah, his wife, their three sons and their three wives are all descendants of Enoch’s six sons, Methusulah, Rigam, Riman, Urchan, Cherminion, and Giadad.

    It was the glorious simulacrum, ‘The Son of Man’ at the ends of time, (Of which Enoch was the chosen cornerstone) who, unlike physical mankind did not have the powers of reproduction, who, from the ends of time, mentally descended into the day of Abraham, who chose him as his God, and in Abraham, was the living evolving spirit of Enoch as he was at that point in his evolution.

    It was to Abraham, that the MOST HIGH in the creation, [The lesser Jahweh the Son of God] said, "In blessing I will bless you and in multiplying, I will multiply you." Our Saviour who offers up his immortal body for those who believe, multiplies by releasing the spirits on which he had evolved.

    From that day forward, all the spirits of Good people who had fallen asleep in righteousness after paying the blood price for their inherited sin, were judged and separated from the unrighteous dead and gathered to the living evolving spirit of Enoch within the bosom of Abraham. Over they, the second death had no power.

    Jesus was the compilation of all those righteous spirits over whom death had no more power. Jesus was who Enoch had become at that point in time of his evolution to become the glorious simulacrum=blue-print of the new light beings that evolve from mankind, who will dwell on earth among mankind.

    The Book of Jubilees 4: 30; And he (Adam) lacked seventy years of one thousand years; for one thousand years are as one day in the testimony of the heavens and therefore was it written concerning the tree of knowledge: "On the day that ye eat thereof ye shall die." For this reason he did not complete the years of this day; for he died during it.

    After Enoch in his ascension to the ends of time, had been in the valley of man for three days (Three thousand years) the man Jesus in who were the spirits of the righteous over whom death had no more power, and who was the duplication of Enoch at that point in time of his ascension to the throne of the Most High.

    1st Peter 1: 19-21; but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect. 20 He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake. 21 Through him you believe in God, who raised him from the dead and glorified him, and so your faith and hope are in God.

    He was chosen before the creation of the world, but which world? The previous world that was destroyed by water, or this world which is destined to be destroyed by fire?

    When Jesus, the duplication of Enoch up until that point in time, and the chosen heir and successor, to the heavenly simulacrum of which Enoch was the cornerstone, and who Enoch ‘The Anointed One’ had become, on the cross, gave up his spirit, crying, “My God, my God, why have you abandoned me, and at that moment, Enoch, who had CHOSEN Jesus as his son, heir, and successor, ceased to be an individual entity, by releasing all the spirits of the righteous who had been gathered to him up until that point in time, and their graves were opened and three days later, they entered the Holy City and showed themselves as the Risen Christ, ‘The Anointed One.’
     
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    No, Jesus was the Son of God first by birth as the angel makes very clear in Luke 1:35

    Luke 1:35
    And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

    So, because He is born of the holy Spirit "therefore" He would be called the "Son of God". That couldn't be more clear from Luke 1:35 and also Matthew 1:18.

    So, first Jesus is the Son of God by human birth and secondly as the scriptures and the apostles themselves teach; He was the Son of God by the resurrection which fulfilled Psalm 2:7. You already saw the scriptures I cited before.

    Anyway, Jesus is certainly the Messiah as He is called Messiah over and over. Enoch is not the Messiah and it doesn't say so anywhere in the Bible.

    The old Latin manuscripts were rejected in favor of the Greek manuscripts by Protestant scholars.

    As for the beginnings of Jesus we know He is one with God and is the Word who was in the beginning with God. John 1:1 makes that obvious. God made all things by the Word and so they are created.

    John 1:1 cannot be understood properly without referring back to Genesis 1:1-3.

    Here we see the same wording "in the beginning God creates the skies and the land"

    John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God.

    So you can see that the scriptures are referring back to themselves and giving you a clue to follow. "In the beginning" So to understand one you need to read the other and so they explain each other. Anyone who wants to understand the scriptures must follow these clues. Because the scriptures explain and define themselves.

    The first thing God ever said that is recorded in Genesis is "Let there be Light". This Light is the Light of God (1 John 1:5) shining in the darkness of the world. (John 1:5) The Light being Jesus who is the "Great Light" that they in Galilee of the nations saw as we read in Isaiah chapter 9.

    The Light is the Light of Life as John shows us in John 1:4 and He comes to overcome the "shadow of death" as we read in Isaiah chapter 9. The Shadow of death is the darkness that covers the waters in Genesis 1:1-3 and is the sentence of death hanging over all peoples, nations and languages who are symbolized as waters in the wisdom of the scriptures. (Revelation 17:15, Isaiah 17:12)

    So Jesus came into the world to overcome death and He does so by the resurrection from the dead. Thus, Jesus was anointed before death (Matthew 26:12); so that He would overcome death because of the Anointing. Because God had reserved and stored up all power for the Anointed One promising it to Him in the scriptures. The Anointed One was the only One who could take this power and use it to overcome death. So God came Himself in human form to stand in the gap; because He looked and He saw no one that could do it. (Revelation 5:5) and So His own arm brought salvation(Yeshua) to Him as it will again. But as He brought grace; next He will bring judgment and so fire and a Sword.

    And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me.

    So this is what Psalm 102:18-21 was written about. As the Psalmist admits it was not written for his own generation but one to come who would see these things fulfilled. That Yah God Himself would look down from heaven to "hear the groaning of the prisoner" and "loose those that are appointed to death". And to declare the name of the Lord in Zion. (see John 17:26)

    Psalm 102:18-21 King James Version (KJV)
    18 This shall be written for the generation to come: and the people which shall be created shall praise the Lord.
    19 For he hath looked down from the height of his sanctuary; from heaven did the Lord behold the earth;
    20 To hear the groaning of the prisoner; to loose those that are appointed to death;
    21 To declare the name of the Lord in Zion, and his praise in Jerusalem;


    And in Isaiah 60:1-3 we see that it is the glory of Yah Himself that will arise and shine in the darkness of the world. So Jesus the "Great Light" was the Light of Yah and He will shine again on His people the holy new Jerusalem as Jesus Christ arises in their hearts.
     
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    74x12 wrote…….. No, Jesus was the Son of God first by birth as the angel makes very clear in Luke 1:35

    Luke 1:35
    And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be 12
    So, because He is born of the holy Spirit "therefore" He would be called the "Son of God". That couldn't be more clear from Luke 1:35 and also Matthew 1:18.


    The Anointed……… IF Jesus had been born of an ever virgin, this would have been the greatest of all miracles, and would have been shouted from the roof tops by all the Gospel writers and the apostles. But John the beloved disciple and Mark, who is believed to be Peter’s son, ignore the physical birth of the man Jesus as being totally irrelevant, and begin their story of the salvation of mankind, when Jesus came up out of the baptismal waters of the Jordan and was filled with the Spirit of the Lord God our saviour, ‘The Son of Man’ the Most High in the creation, which descended upon him in the form of a dove as the heavenly voice was heard to say; “You are my son, (My chosen heir and successor) ‘THIS DAY’ I have begotten thee.”

    Mary was the daughter of Alexander Helios/Heli and Anna/Hanna, who was one of three elderly daughters of Yehoshua/Jesus III, who was high priest in Jerusalem from 36 to 23 BC. Anna/Hanna whose mother was ‘phanuel’ from the tribe of Asher, was given as a bride to the young Alexander Helios (Heli), and Jesus is the son of “Joseph, the son of Heli.”

    Galatians 4: 29; At that time, the child born according to the flesh [Ishmael] despised and persecuted him, [Isaac] who was born according to God’s promise and the workings of the Holy Spirit.

    If you believe that Jesus was born according to God’s promise and the workings/power of the Holy Spirit, is ‘The Son of God,’ then you must believe that Issac who was born according to God’s promise and the workings of the Holy Spirit, is also ‘The Son of God.

    Isaac, who is the prototype of Jesus, was born of a brother/sister relationship and born of God’s promise according to the power/workings of the Holy Spirit, and Isaac was the biological son of Abraham and his half- sister Sarah, who were both sired by Terah, as Jesus, who was born of God’s promise according to the power of the Holy Spirit, was the biological son of Joseph and his half- sister Mary, who were both sired by Alexander Helios/Heli.

    Isaac, was offered up as a sacrifice by his father on the same mountain that Jesus, who had been chosen as the heir to our Fathers throne, was offered up. But both lived on, as God had prepared a replacement sacrifice for them. The replacement for Isaac, was a sheep, the replacement for Jesus, was the one year old unblemished lamb of God, [Enoch the Christ, the anointed one] who, at the age of 365, the number of days in a calendar year, was taken to the throne of the Most High in the creation and Anointed as his successor, to serve God before the body of Adam/mankind into all eternity.

    Matthew 1: 18 to 23; Reveals that Mary, like Sarah, was able to conceive the child of God’s promise, by the power of the Holy Spirit, and that she would be an unmarried woman. This was done to make come true, what the Lord had said through his prophet ‘Isaiah,’ and that was, that an ‘ALMAH” an unmarried woman, would be pregnant and bear a child who would be called Emmanuel, etc.

    In the genealogy of Joseph the son of Jacob, the step-father of Jesus, who married the already pregnant Mary, Matthew records five women who the Lord considers as righteous. Tamar, who played the prostitute and seduced Judah, her father-in law into having sex with her, by which union she conceived and later bore his twin sons, Perez and Zerah.

    Then there is Rahab the madam of a whore house in Jericho, who later married Salmon, and bore his son ‘Boaz.’ The third is Ruth, who with sexual cunning deceived Boaz into marrying her, to whom she bore ‘Obed.’ The fourth is Bathsheba, who committed adultery with King David, who had her husband ‘Uriah’ killed, and she was the mother of Solomon, of whom the Lord said; “He shall be my son and I shall be his Father,” and it is he who shall build my temple for me.” [See 2nd Samuel 7: 14. and 1st Chronicles 17: 13.] Solomon was then blessed with the rulership of the most glorious period of Israel history. And last of all is Mary who united with her half-brother Joseph the son of her father, Alexander Helios, to conceive and bear Jesus, whom the Lord God our savior, has appointed as the Messiah.

    To be continued.
     
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    Continued from post #7

    The apostles did not teach the false doctrine of the so-called non-biblical VIRGIN conception and birth, of Jesus by his mother Mary, who would be pregnant and bear a child who would be called Emmanuel, etc.

    God was with us, and revealed himself to us, by the words he spoke through the mouth of his obedient servant, the man Jesus, who he filled with his spirit as he told Moses he would do in Deuteronomy 18: 18-19; “I will raise up for them a prophet just like you from among their own brethren; and I will put MY WORDS into his mouth, and I will punish anyone who does not Heed MY WORDS which he shall speak in MY NAME.”

    The people in the days of Jesus, knew that he was the one chosen to speak in the name of our Lord. On the day of his triumphant entry into Jerusalem, they strew his pathway with palm branches, while crying out; “Blessed is he, who comes in the name of the Lord.”

    Luke on the other hand, tells us that Jesus was the son of Mary and her half-brother, Joseph the son of Alexander Helios or Heli.

    Luke 3:23; (KJV) And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli.

    The (AS WAS SUPPOSED) in brackets, was a later interpolation by those who believed the false teaching of the so-called virgin birth.

    In the different translations of the KJV into Arabic, Afrikaan, Zulu, etc and even some of the more modern English translations, such as the Good News Catholic Study Edition Bible, the words (As was supposed) have been retained, but the brackets are removed, thus by, making those words appear to be the declaration of Luke, while the serious biblical students know that they were not written by Luke, but were a later interpolation and a corruption of the Holy Scriptures, by those Christians, who refuse to accept that Jesus was not a God who became a man, but a man, born of human parents, who was later CHOSEN by the Lord our saviour ‘The Son of Man,’ as his heir and successor.

    In Alexandria, by the second century, ‘Docetism,’ the concept that Jesus had existed as a spirit rather than a human being, had all but theoretically been stamped out. But still, there persisted the belief that their Jesus, although seen as a sort of human being, did not have our normal bodily needs, such as eating, drinking and excretion, and Clement the bishop of Alexandria, wrote: “It would be ridiculous to imagine that the redeemer, in order to exist, had the usual needs of man. He only took food and ate it in order that we should not teach about him in a Docetic fashion.” Satan must have had some trouble trying to tempt this false Jesus of theirs into turning stones into bread, for according to Clement, their false Jesus never ever got hungry or thirsty.

    Their Jesus was not the Jesus as taught by the apostles, but that other Jesus, taught by the Anti-Christ, who unlike we mere HUMAN BEINGS, did not need to eat, drink, or go to the toilet, as was taught by one of the great teachers that the authorities of Emperor Constantine’s universal church, used as one of their authorities when trying to defend their false doctrines.

    Saint Clement of Alexandria, who was a saint in the Martyrology of the Roman universal church, in support of the great lie, speaks of the time that some imaginary midwife, who was supposed to be at the birth of Jesus, (Non-biblical) told some woman by the name Salome, that the mother was still a virgin after the birth and that her hymen was still intact, and that this supposed Salome, stuck her finger into the mother’s vagina to check, and her hand immediately withered up, but the baby Jesus reached out and touched her hand and healed it. [What a load of rubbish?]

    Clement was accepted as a saint in the universal church, which was established by King Constantine, from a rag-tag group of insult hurling religious bodies, who called themselves christians. Eventually, sick to the stomach with their constant quarreling and abuse toward each other, Constantine summoned all the leaders of those groups to the first ever "World Council of churches," where, in 325 AD, some 300 years after the Apostolic Church of Jesus Christ had been firmly established in Jerusalem, the non-christian, and almost certainly theologically illiterate Constantine, established his universal church, which has nothing to do with the Jesus as taught by the apostles.

    Down to the 17th century Clement was venerated as a saint. His name was to be found in the Martyrologies, and his feast fell on December 4. But when the Roman Martyrology was revised by Clement VIII (Pope from 1592 to 1605), his name was dropped from the calendar on the advice of his confessor, Cardinal Baronius. Pope Benedict XIV in 1748 maintained his predecessor's decision on the grounds that Clements life was little-known; that he had never obtained public cultus in the Church; and that some of his doctrines were, if not erroneous, at least highly suspect.

    "ERRONEOUS--HIGHLY SUSPECT," they certainly got that right. But by the beginning of the seventh century A.D., the false Roman teaching of the so-called virgin birth, had become so entrenched in the minds of the naïve and gullible, and their Brains were so mixed up and set as hard as concrete, one would need a sledge Hammer to crack them open and allow the light of truth to shine in.

    To be continued.
     
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    Continued from post #8

    74x12 wrote……..Anyway, Jesus is certainly the Messiah as He is called Messiah over and over. Enoch is not the Messiah and it doesn't say so anywhere in the Bible.

    The Anointed……… Nowhere in the few selected documents gathered by the Roman church of Emperor Constantine, and compiled as her Canon, is Enoch said to have been the ‘ANOINTED ONE’ the CHRIST: and why in the bible of the Roman church of Emperor Constantine, would there be?

    The books of Enoch from which Jesus and his apostles taught, were cherished by the early Christians and were held in great reverence by many of the early church fathers, including Irenaeus, Tertullian and Origen, until the early 4th century when, under the ban of dogmatic religious authorities of the Roman church of Emperor Constantine, such as Jerome, Hillary and Augustin, they finally passed out of circulation and were thought lost for millennia.

    They couldn’t have the poor gullible souls that they had trapped with their false teaching, believing that Enoch, who was in the valley of man, or the spiritual dimension that co-exists within out three dimensional world, for three days, or three thousand years, was actually the Anointed one, who CHOSE the man Jesus as his heir and successor, could they?

    Acts 3: 13……. The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of our ancestors has given divine glory to his servant Jesus.

    Acts 3: 19; “Repent then and turn to God, so that he will forgive your sins. If you do, times of spiritual strength will come from the Lord, and he will send Jesus, who is the Messiah that the Lord has already CHOSEN for you.

    Yes, Jesus is the Messiah that the Lord God our saviour has CHOSEN for you. Isaiah 42: 1; The Lord says; “Here is my servant whom I strengthen------the one I have CHOSEN, with whom I am pleased. I have filled him with my spirit, and he will bring justice to every nation.

    Acts 17: 31; For the Lord has set a day, (The great Sabbath of one thousand years, which, as Paul said, was the future reality of the weekly Sabbath) in which he shall judge the whole world with Justice, by means of a MAN that he has CHOSEN. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising that MAN from death.

    Luke 9: 34; Peter, James, and John, Although heavy with sleep though still awake, believed they had seen Elijah and Moses speaking with Jesus, and while Peter babbled on not knowing what he was saying, a cloud overshadowed them and a voice came from the cloud, saying; “This is my son whom I have CHOSEN, listen to him.”

    As I have said previously, Spiritual beings do not have the animal power of reproduction, and must CHOOSE their heir and successor.

    Can you reveal anywhere in scripture, where it is said; “THIS IS MY SON WHO WAS BORN TO ME?”

    Who do you think was the one, who the Lord God our saviour CHOSE as his heir and successor, and filled him with his spirit?

    To be continued.
     
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    74x12 Wrote……….. As for the beginnings of Jesus we know He is one with God and is the Word who was in the beginning with God. John 1:1 makes that obvious. God made all things by the Word and so they are created.

    The Anointed…….. When you say; “WE KNOW” Please do not include Me among the naive and Gullible souls, who are deceived by the spirit/words/teachings of the Roman Church of Emperor Constantine.

    For ‘I KNOW,’ that the Lord said to Moses in Deuteronomy 18: 18-19; “I will raise up for them a prophet just like you from among their own brethren; and I will put MY WORDS into his mouth, and I will punish anyone who does not Heed MY WORDS which he shall speak in MY NAME.”

    I KNOW,’ Peter confirms that Jesus was that man, when, concerning the man Jesus, he says in. Acts 3: 22; For Moses said; "The Lord your God will send you a prophet, just as he sent me, and he will be one of your own people, etc."

    I KNOW,” that the people of his day did not believe that he was the Lord, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The God of our ancestors? For on the day of his triumphant entry into Jerusalem, the people escorting him cried out, "BLESSED IS HE WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD." Verifying that they believed Jesus to be the one that the Lord God our saviour, ‘The Son of Man,’ had PROMISED that he would choose from among the Israelites, and send to the people to speak in his name, AFTER PUTTING HIS WORDS/SPIRIT INTO HIS MOUTH.

    It was the Lord who said through the mouth of his obedient servant, ‘The Man Jesus,’ concerning eating the spiritual body of Christ; “The flesh is of no use at all, it is the spirit that gives life and my WORDS are spirit.”

    Man shall not live on [Physical] bread alone, but on every word that has descended from heaven and revealed through the mouth of Jesus.

    Jesus was the earthly temple in which the Lord revealed himself to the world, and it was HE, the Lord God our saviour, who said through the mouth of his servant, “Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up.

    “I KNOW,” from the Holy Scriptures, that Jesus could not and did not raise himself from death.

    Acts 5: 30; The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom you slew and hanged on a tree.

    Acts 13: 30; But God raised him from the dead: and he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee, etc.

    1st Corinthians 6: 14; And God has both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.

    2nd Corinthians 1: 9; But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the dead.

    2nd Corinthians 4: 14; knowing that he who raised the Lord Jesus will raise us also with Jesus and bring us with you into his presence. _

    Acts 17: 31; For He [The Lord God our saviour] has fixed a day in which he shall judge the whole world with justice by means of a MAN he has CHOSEN. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising that MAN from death.

    Now then, whose words were those which said; “Destroy this Temple and in three days I will raise it up?

    To be continued.
     
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    The first law of thermodynamics is the same as the first law of conservation and that is, that energy can neither be created or destroyed. If energy cannot be created, then it always was, and If it can never be destroyed, it always will be. Therefore, according to this law, energy must be eternal, having neither beginning or end. Energy can be and is converted to that which we perceive as matter. In fact, this apparent material universe at the time of the Big Bang was pure electromagnetic energy, which was spewed out in the trillions and trillions of degrees, which has been converted to that which we perceive as matter only to be reconverted to its original form as electromagnetic energy during the phase of the Big Crunch.

    It is the eternal energy which has neither beginning or end, who is all that exists and in all that exists, it is HE, the LOGOS, who has become this seemingly material universe and has developed a mind that is the compilation of all the information gathered by all the diverse life-forms that it [The Eternal Energy] or God has become.

    The Supreme personality to develop within the collective consciousness, is ‘THE MOST HIGH MIND,’ to have developed in each cycle of universal activity. In this period of universal activity, the light and life/personality within the LOGOS, who sat in the throne of Godhead, was “THE LIGHT OF MAN” who filled his CHOSEN successor 'Jesus' with his spirit.

    It has now been revealed that matter is no more than an illusion. Quantum physicists discovered that so called physical atoms are made up of vortices of energy that are constantly spinning and vibrating, each one radiating its own unique energy signature.

    If you observed the composition of an atom with a microscope you would see a small, invisible tornado-like vortex, with a number of infinitely small energy vortices called quarks and photons. These are what make up the structure of the atom. As you focused in closer and closer on the structure of the atom, you would see nothing, you would observe a physical void. The atom has no physical structure, we have no physical structure, physical things really don’t have any physical structure! Atoms are made out of invisible energy, not tangible matter.

    The Anointed continues...….. The eternal energy which has neither beginning or end, that has become this material universe and has developed a mind that is the compilation of all the information gathered by all the diverse life-forms that it [The Eternal Energy] or God has become.

    Nothing Is Solid & Everything Is Energy – Scientists Explain The World of Quantum Physics*

    What we perceive as our physical material world, is really not physical or material at all, in fact, it is far from it. This has been proven time and time again by multiple Nobel Prize (among many other scientists around the world) winning physicists, one of them being Niels Bohr, a Danish Physicist who made significant contributions to understanding atomic structure and quantum theory.

    “If quantum mechanics hasn’t profoundly shocked you, you haven’t understood it yet. Everything we call real is made of things that cannot be regarded as real.” – Niels Bohr

    At the turn of the nineteenth century, physicists started to explore the relationship between energy and the structure of matter. In doing so, the belief that a physical, Newtonian material universe that was at the very heart of scientific knowing was dropped, and the realization that matter is nothing but an illusion replaced it. Scientists began to recognize that everything in the Universe is made out of energy.

    “Despite the unrivaled empirical success of quantum theory, the very suggestion that it may be literally true as a description of nature is still greeted with cynicism, incomprehension and even anger.” (T. Folger, “Quantum Shmantum”; Discover 22:37-43, 2001)

    Quantum physicists discovered that physical atoms are made up of vortices of energy that are constantly spinning and vibrating, each one radiating its own unique energy signature. Therefore, if we really want to observe ourselves and find out what we are, we are really beings of energy and vibration, radiating our own unique energy signature -this is fact and is what quantum physics has shown us time and time again. We are much more than what we perceive ourselves to be, and it’s time we begin to see ourselves in that light. If you observed the composition of an atom with a microscope you would see a small, invisible tornado-like vortex, with a number of infinitely small energy vortices called quarks and photons. These are what make up the structure of the atom. As you focused in closer and closer on the structure of the atom, you would see nothing, you would observe a physical void. The atom has no physical structure, we have no physical structure, physical things really don’t have any physical structure! Atoms are made out of invisible energy, not tangible matter.

    “Get over it, and accept the inarguable conclusion. The universe is immaterial-mental and spiritual” (1) – Richard Conn Henry, Professor of Physics and Astronomy at Johns Hopkins University (quote taken from “the mental universe)

    It’s quite the conundrum, isn’t it? Our experience tells us that our reality is made up of physical material things, and that our world is an independently existing objective one. The revelation that the universe is not an assembly of physical parts, suggested by Newtonian physics, and instead comes from a holistic entanglement of immaterial energy waves stems from the work of Albert Einstein, Max Planck and Werner Heisenberg, among others. (0)

    The Role of Consciousness in Quantum Mechanics

    What does it mean that our physical material reality isn’t really physical at all? It could mean a number of things, and concepts such as this cannot be explored if scientists remain within the boundaries of the only perceived world existing, the world we see.

    As Nikola Tesla supposedly said:

    “The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence.”

    Fortunately, many scientists have already taken the leap, and have already questioned the meaning and implications of what we’ve discovered with quantum physics. One of these potential revelations is that “the observer creates the reality.”

    A fundamental conclusion of the new physics also acknowledges that the OBSERVER CREATES THE REALITY. As observers, we are personally involved with the creation of our own reality. Physicists are being forced to admit that the UNIVERSE IS "MENTAL CONSTRUCTION" .

    Pioneering physicist Sir James Jeans wrote: “The stream of knowledge is heading toward a non-mechanical reality; the universe begins to look more like a great thought than like a great machine. Mind no longer appears to be an accidental intruder into the realm of matter, we ought rather hail it as the creator and governor of the realm of matter. (R. C. Henry, “The Mental Universe”; Nature 436:29, 2005)

    The term, "THE WORD OF GOD," pertains to the sense that is identical to the term “LOGOS” or the mould. The mould by which the whole sense of a thing is given. In other words, the very plan from the outset. In Sanskrit the similar meaning is given in the use of the word 'vach.' Vach means word. But in Sanskrit teachings of the Sanatana Dharma, vach has many levels. Including where the word is first considered as being in the mind as a thought, not as the spoken word or speech.


    The Logos is the essential reality of the universe, the eternal and invisible spirit from which all being originates and to which all must return.

    Pioneering physicist Sir James Jeans wrote: “The stream of knowledge is heading toward a non-mechanical reality; the universe begins to look more like a great thought than like a great machine.


    Anything constructive that I hear on this forum and elsewhere I retain in my memory bank. the crap I reject.

    I assume it would be the same with the LOGOS, who is the collective consciousness of all he has become. The rubbish is rejected.

    The invisible Logos has manifested itself as this visible universe.

    Romans 1: 18-23; “ The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

    21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being, ETC.
     
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