God and the idea that he's timeless

[Rizdek]

If there is no time there is neither an "all at once" nor a "moment" (timeless or otherwise).

Talk of logistics is absurd. (At least take the time to look up the word.)

But now you know what I meant, right?

Granted talking about anything happening is a supposed timeless existence is difficult when our entire way of thinking revolves around time. But how do you think and talk about of something happening outside of time? Or do you just assume such existence...even for a god is simply impossible?

 

[Rizdek]

If there is no time there is neither an "all at once" nor a "moment" (timeless or otherwise).

So wouldn't that mean that timeless existence would be impossible?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

So wouldn't that mean that timeless existence would be impossible?

Maybe even unnatural.

 

[Rizdek]

Maybe even unnatural.

Are you being serious?

And if serious, how does 'unnatural' resolve the issue?

 

[rational experiences]

If a human claims that God is superior and higher than all other objects and conditions as first, then if that God thought, it would be less than self, for how could you think higher than self?

Which would then quote God is destructive on purpose.

If you look at space in natural laws, space and conditions in space are constantly changing. Which Places Earth, as the body on which you stand as an ever changing body.

Which then states, no constant. Only held conditions in conditions, cooled/evolved states held for that length of time. Change time, which is what science does, it infers backwards and forwards numbers in the O cycle of 12, then what is held disappears, as a rationale about presence.

So if God in its highest presence the body upon which you stand is One and cold massed fused....then it owns in time the coldest body in space. Where its own natural created ended.

Yet the thesis about God O the one being a Creator entity in the sciences quotes...God the first and One then created the atmosphere, by ejecting its stone gases into space to form its own spirit heavens. So God in actual science defined terms, relativity was only ever the stone one planet and its owned heavenly stone gas mass.

And we know in science that this status is true, for you cannot do science your own self, beyond the stone unless you take the stone mass back in time to get machine parts formed.

Why we said in human life as a human to a human, you are the Destroyer of God as a Satanist in science. For you are simply and rationally that male group self, your own statement preached to your own self, males in groups. Cult mentality versus natural groups family members.

 

[wellwisher]

You may want to re-read Lorentz transformation - Wikipedia

You are correct. In my hast to copy and paste a small image of the time equation of Special Relativity, I copied one that was compact, but not correct. I realized this after I posted and went to work. The analysis after this was fine for the correct equation. The correct equation is;

If we plug in v=c we get time divided by the square root of zero which creates infinite relativistic time; t'. The same is true of distance; d' and mass; m'. Infinite makes this discontinuous, with inertial reality, since inertial is finite in time, space and mass. The result is the rules and laws of physics change.

If you were in the speed of light reference, observing out inertia universe, the inertial universe would appear as a point-instant, as its distance and time appear to contract in your c-reference. Seeing the inertial universe as a point-instant, at the speed of light, is how omnipresence and omniscience are possible.

If the entire universe did appear to contract to a point-instant, due to relativity, we are everywhere at the same time in that universe, simply by seeing the point, since that tiny point reflects all of the universal space and matter superimposed by relativity. Since time also appears to be only an instant, then all of universal history is contained in that instant. To see that instant, one knows all.

The main point is if we plug in the speed of light and go through the hypothetical mathematical and physics analysis of what we would expect to see at the speed of light reference, the historical attributes of God are consistent with this physics analysis. This may not be a coincidence.

 

[Heyo]

You are correct. In my hast to copy and paste a small image of the time equation of Special Relativity, I copied one that was compact, but not correct. I realized this after I posted and went to work. The analysis after this was fine for the correct equation. The correct equation is;

If we plug in v=c we get time divided by the square root of zero which creates infinite relativistic time; t'. The same is true of distance; d' and mass; m'. Infinite makes this discontinuous, with inertial reality, since inertial is finite in time, space and mass. The result is the rules and laws of physics change.

If you were in the speed of light reference, observing out inertia universe, the inertial universe would appear as a point-instant, as its distance and time appear to contract in your c-reference. Seeing the inertial universe as a point-instant, at the speed of light, is how omnipresence and omniscience are possible.

If the entire universe did appear to contract to a point-instant, due to relativity, we are everywhere at the same time in that universe, simply by seeing the point, since that tiny point reflects all of the universal space and matter superimposed by relativity. Since time also appears to be only an instant, then all of universal history is contained in that instant. To see that instant, one knows all.

The main point is if we plug in the speed of light and go through the hypothetical mathematical and physics analysis of what we would expect to see at the speed of light reference, the historical attributes of God are consistent with this physics analysis. This may not be a coincidence.

I think you should simply disregard the maths, it seems only to confuse you.
Time in the moving reference frame (t') really approaches 0 for v -> c, as you said (and not as your new formula indicates). The same goes for length (or distance) but not for mass which really goes to infinity.
Your conclusions are partly correct. For a photon the universe is like a singularity. In it's reference frame time and distance don't exist. But anything that has a rest mass can never go at light speed since it would be infinitely massive (and therefore require infinite energy to move).
Hope that clears things up.

 

[wellwisher]

I think you should simply disregard the maths, it seems only to confuse you.
Time in the moving reference frame (t') really approaches 0 for v -> c, as you said (and not as your new formula indicates). The same goes for length (or distance) but not for mass which really goes to infinity.
Your conclusions are partly correct. For a photon the universe is like a singularity. In it's reference frame time and distance don't exist. But anything that has a rest mass can never go at light speed since it would be infinitely massive (and therefore require infinite energy to move).
Hope that clears things up.

The confusion has to do with the reference you are using as the standard. In the twin paradox, the moving twin ages slower. To the stationary twin, the slower aging of his moving twin brother reflects that his time is slowing. But to the twin who is moving, his clock, body and mind all appear to age normal. To him, his stationary brother seems to be aging faster. Science tends to prefer the POV of the stationary twin. This is not the only way to look at this.

If we assume God created the universe, for the sake of argument, the moving twin reference of Good, so to speak, is the original reference before space-time. The inertial universe is a flash in the pan; t=0-. The stationary reference appears and disappears so fast.

Another area of confusion is although light travels at the speed of light, light is actually in two reference at the same time ,and not just the speed of light reference. In other words, if you plug c into the special relativity equations photons should not show any variety of wavelengths and frequencies, since infinity will appear no matter what wavelength; distance, or frequency; time, we start with. The fact that light can show a wide variety of finite expressions of time and distance; frequency and wavelength, and also move at the speed of light, indicates photons are partially inertial in nature. Photons have two legs one at C and one in inertial.

A pure speed of light reference will maintain a singularity of expression; one God. Light and energy is really a bridge state between inertial and a pure speed of light reference. At the speed of light reference; God reference, since time and space are not connected, entropy become infinite. Entropy is a measure of randomness and complexity wit separated time and space having fewer practical limits for complexity. To build the inertial universe we first need to build a bridge to the other side. We can do this by lowering some of the entropy, to retrieve the energy that was tied up within entropy. The exothermic output is "let there be light, is the bridge state to inertial.

If you try to witness the birth of the universe from the inertia referenced side, you begin with something that was not there at the beginning. Entropy has changed things. This leads to conceptual problems. It is better to start where it all began, by learning to understand the original reference that still persists.

 

[rational experiences]

Science discusses conditions of non inclusive reality.

We live in a massive huge gas water/oxygen atmospheric body that allows any one single study, as applied by the consciousness studying it, a human to make all claims.

In our lighted atmosphere, we are moving through space physically as a planet. How that condition affects the psyche in science, no one would know.

Gases burning in the atmosphere is the beginning of light, which in burning removes form faster than gases cooling owning light also to gases that eventually had become clear. That form of reactive movement, as you live consciously aware affects what you think and feel in an unrealistic new science introduced and reactive/interactive condition.

Extra radiation and radio wave/feed back of introduced not natural worded information for a start, heard in your mind psyche as subliminal interference, for a natural thinker to think about, then you are chemical changed in your own brain which also introduces distorted viewing. Seeing we rely on brain function to make correct thoughts and also to view information correctly, in its natural format.

Now imagine what your brain/mind is thinking being interfered with by feed back holographic unnatural gas light conditions, in the subject of radiation fall out. Due to too much gas mass burning above our head, that increases a huge carbon mass, and also produces a condition where natural light x mass as natural no longer exists in space conditions for the vacuum owned the gas light cooling on the base of water.

Water remains the same quota, but gas burning and vacuum causes does not.

2 laws that science can change and then they begin to quote artificial destructive ideas that are not relative to a natural balanced psyche or thinking condition, in rationality.

Romans 12:2 2Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is-his good, pleasing and perfect will.

Why science in a thinking condition said science is trying to give machine mass, radiation radio wave accumulation to own formula about mass to his machine which is to attack and remove our life.

O Earth a stone planet that released as a law written by humans in a group agreement as one and stone mass that created by history its owned gas mass atmosphere, from stone. Which is not a relative law for any other place other than where you live.

 

[wellwisher]

The second law states that the entropy of the universe has to increase. This movement of entropy is a reflection of the original lowered entropy, needed to form the energy bridge for the inertial universe, slowly returning to the infinite entropy at the speed of light reference.

Since entropy needs to absorb energy for it to increase, and since entropy has to increase according to the second law, this means that useable energy is being permanently removed from our inertial universe, over time. This energy is conserved, but in the form of entropy, which is not fully reversible, since the total entropy has to increase.

The net result is there is an ever increasing pool of dead energy. It is energy in the sense, it exists via energy conservation, but in a form that cannot be fully used by the inertial universe. This dead pool creates a problem if one tries to define the beginning of the universe from a point later in time. The available energy balance is not the same due to the second law.

This dead pool of energy has a connection to the flow of time. Time moves in one direction, which is to the future. While entropy also moves in one direction which is in the direction of increase. The accumulating dead pool changes the present away from the past, due to the loss of useable energy, causing time to move forward. To go back into time, we would need to tap into the dead pool energy and restore it, which is not fully allowable based on the second law.

Dead pool energy, which is not reusable to the inertial universe is based on entropy. This energy/entropy would be conserve and still define complexity, but without any material and inertial connection and form. It is like the concept of the spirits of the ancestors; thought/memory, but without material form in the present.

In a loose way, it is like our own memories of the past, detached from the present and any direct material connection in real time. Yet these persist due to conservation and are the foundation of our present self, while not being material. Theoretically, life after death; ghosts of the past, would be connected to the dead pool and entropy. Life and consciousness has a connection to entropy and dead pool energy; soul.

 

[rational experiences]

Consciousness is expressed only by a human being chemical bio life in their owned presence/mind body and brain.

You live inside of a burning alight cooled gas mass, in a water/oxygenated use of microbial energy as food resource for your life continuance. Yet you die.

Therefore you would ask why you die. The reason as a LAW states because the Immaculate gases sitting in the highest state, in the coldest spatial history, vacuum cooling, burnt and were sacrificed.

2 conditions of self existing. You live in a night time clear sky of non burning gases for 12 hours. You live in a day time burning cooled gas sky heavenly body for the other 12 hours.

What is the difference about surviving as a LAW versus dying?

Reason Immaculate gas spirit gets sacrificed....so O time for life in 24 cycle supports eventual death whilst living in an irradiating atmospheric 12 hour day light sky heavenly mass.

How the LAW of conscious human life and relativity for man....the equal human self was taught.

Actually.

God O the stone is fused One God, the first God from whose body ejected the spirit gases into the womb of space. Space the vacuum cooled those gases, converted those gases and formed the Immaculate heavens.

The Sun historically changed that circumstance as stated.

In the detail of that information no HUMAN life even existed...the story was just about planet Earth and how it formed/owned its own atmosphere and how the atmosphere was lit up.

We ARE NOT in that story.

The detail and reasons why a human life was early age 33 years sacrificed from the new born baby life, placed the item of reference in natural history NOT TIME DATED to own a zero....was backdated referenced when the document was written as proof why life was still being constantly sacrificed.

Reason for the biblical documentation that owns an end statement that said NEVER give God, reference of is O one, the stone body, mass where the machine began from a NAME ever again....as a human agreement for survival of life on Earth.

Yet everyday and for a long time, there is the egotist claiming he wants rights to patent information in out of space by his human say so....his discussions, his agreements, his thoughts and his thesis as if he somehow owned every other body sitting in space. The type of males who go to the moon and put a flag on it, making a claim about ownership and status.

The reference to why life a baby life died, as a new born at the age of 33 in a horrific death that had been prophesised before the earthquake and vacuum sky darkness occurred, did not placate BC 0 AD.

That reference was put in after the effect to state a place of reference for future humans to own an argument against Satanic scientists. The Destroyer mentality that was prophesised to return as the Son of the Apostasy. And all males in life became the son of God in image.....for feed back imagery was put into the Earth atmosphere.

Image in feed back is also female man, and then animal man also. For lots of images are fed back and seen transmitted into cloud imagery.

When males for a long time quote "my brother is special", it is because he is involved in states of phenomena. Yet all brothers had their image put into feed back, for all male and female and animal DNA was converted from natural first 2 x 2 parent bodies. As science in biology states...once we all owned the same parent DNA bodies.

Those stories taught in the bible, it is only the reader/interpreter who no longer quotes it for how it was written.

Who tried to convince everyone that just one man was special, yet a whole lot of males have proven that story wrong throughout history in multi male spiritual events actually. Which so many humans seem to ignore as fact of self evidence.