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Girl, 6, Handcuffed in school because of temper tantrum.

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
This could be for a number of reasons. It could be that the parents have lost faith and trust in the school. Perhaps there were previous problems. Perhaps there are a number of problems with other children and the school, and the scheduled appointments seem like a joke to them. Although it could indicate a lack of responsibility, that may not be necessarily the case.
It's called poor parenting. If the school wants to talk about your child, and you show zero interest, loosing faith in the school or not, shows you do not care. No matter how insignificant it may seem when the school calls you to talk about your child, you should still at least show up to voice your concern about why said issue is insignificant.
 
Who cares? If your kid is completely out of control and you can't even manage to make it to the school to talk to anybody about it, somebody else is going to end up taking action. When I was in first grade the teacher would have spanked a kid like that, but that's out of the question now, so what are they supposed to do?

The problem isn't that this brat was restrained, the problem is that her parents think that's the problem. As far as I'm concerned, they should be ashamed to go to the press with this story.

Agreed. You can point fingers at both sides, but I know a lot of teachers who have similiar behavioral problems with no way to control the kiddos. There is 0 responsibility put on the parents and 100% put on the cops, teachers, and administrators. The government can't replace the job of good parenting and discipline in the home.
 
Who cares? If your kid is completely out of control and you can't even manage to make it to the school to talk to anybody about it, somebody else is going to end up taking action. When I was in first grade the teacher would have spanked a kid like that, but that's out of the question now, so what are they supposed to do?

The problem isn't that this brat was restrained, the problem is that her parents think that's the problem. As far as I'm concerned, they should be ashamed to go to the press with this story.
I agree. The mother is quoted as working in a daycare, too... I worked in a daycare and have seen my fair share of out of control children, and in my mind it is something which the parents need to be on top of, not drop them off at school and let it play out there.

The school made attempts to set up meetings with the parents to discuss the behavior prior to the incidents. And even an six year old can cause harm to an eight month pregnant woman and her unborn. Perhaps it wasn't the best idea to send the girl to a mental hospital, but if she is a threat and has a history of violence and the parents will not meet with the school, what does the school do?
 

dust1n

Zindīq
I agree. The mother is quoted as working in a daycare, too... I worked in a daycare and have seen my fair share of out of control children, and in my mind it is something which the parents need to be on top of, not drop them off at school and let it play out there.

The school made attempts to set up meetings with the parents to discuss the behavior prior to the incidents. And even an six year old can cause harm to an eight month pregnant woman and her unborn. Perhaps it wasn't the best idea to send the girl to a mental hospital, but if she is a threat and has a history of violence and the parents will not meet with the school, what does the school do?


Suspend her?
 

Neo-Logic

Reality Checker
Jeez why is this thread going on as long as it has? It's far from controversial.

It's called "in loco parentis" - in place of parents. The school acts as a legal guardian in absence of parents and on their grounds when the kids are in their care.

This kid was clearly out of control and the means used to subdue her was non-violent, did not harm her, and was effective. In other countries around the world, the teacher would just smack the kid.

Case closed.
 

JMorris

Democratic Socialist
Who cares? If your kid is completely out of control and you can't even manage to make it to the school to talk to anybody about it, somebody else is going to end up taking action. When I was in first grade the teacher would have spanked a kid like that, but that's out of the question now, so what are they supposed to do?

The problem isn't that this brat was restrained, the problem is that her parents think that's the problem. As far as I'm concerned, they should be ashamed to go to the press with this story.

agreed
 

dust1n

Zindīq
Jeez why is this thread going on as long as it has? It's far from controversial.

It's called "in loco parentis" - in place of parents. The school acts as a legal guardian in absence of parents and on their grounds when the kids are in their care.

This kid was clearly out of control and the means used to subdue her was non-violent, did not harm her, and was effective. In other countries around the world, the teacher would just smack the kid.

Case closed.

Instead of take her to a mental ward, suspend her?
 

Neo-Logic

Reality Checker
Instead of take her to a mental ward, suspend her?

We don't have all the facts as people on a forum debating on a topic. The article says "temper tantrum" in which she "kicked the wall, went over to the desk and threw the calculator, electric pencil sharpener, telephone, container of writing utensils and other objects across the desk".

Sometimes words can't describe the severity of the situation. The principal, in conjunction with the Deputy, have discretion to subdue the situation and take measures they feel are prudent. May be they did feel taking her to a mental institution was prudent given what they saw and felt that we can't experience through an article.

There's little doubt the parents were able to get her out of the mental institution and she wasn't harmed or injured in any way. And it wasn't like the parents couldn't have known. She must've had some history of this because very few children act out this violently. Either the parents weren't doing a good job parenting or a good job communicating ahead of time to the principal if their daughter had some mental condition that made her ineffective to parent's efforts.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
We don't have all the facts as people on a forum debating on a topic. The article says "temper tantrum" in which she "kicked the wall, went over to the desk and threw the calculator, electric pencil sharpener, telephone, container of writing utensils and other objects across the desk".

Sometimes words can't describe the severity of the situation. The principal, in conjunction with the Deputy, have discretion to subdue the situation and take measures they feel are prudent. May be they did feel taking her to a mental institution was prudent given what they saw and felt that we can't experience through an article.

There's little doubt the parents were able to get her out of the mental institution and she wasn't harmed or injured in any way. And it wasn't like the parents couldn't have known. She must've had some history of this because very few children act out this violently. Either the parents weren't doing a good job parenting or a good job communicating ahead of time to the principal if their daughter had some mental condition that made her ineffective to parent's efforts.



Good point. While I might concede that this may have been a justifiable exception, this should by no means be anywhere close to the standard.
 

Neo-Logic

Reality Checker
Good point. While I might concede that this may have been a justifiable exception, this should by no means be anywhere close to the standard.

Yes, I think it's a case by case basis. In this case, the facts suggests the action was justified.

I've always found it disheartening when I hear the words 'children' 'cops' 'arrested' 'handcuffs' used together in the same sentence.
 
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