Audie
Veteran Member
It wont matter if they offer prize money for being a gay
man, I still wont do it.
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Fear of homosexuality
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It wont matter if they offer prize money for being a gay
man, I still wont do it.
shmogie
Well-Known Member
No, I mean exactly what I said, the standards of God.
Audie
Veteran Member
We Never Know
No Slack
I think that is bogus crapola. A fear of something is simply a fear; an unpleasant emotion caused by the belief that someone or something is dangerous, likely to cause pain, or a threat.
Do people who fear spiders secretly like spiders or hide they are a spider?
Do people who fear snakes secretly like snakes or hide they are a snake?
shmogie
Well-Known Member
You mean this response wasn´t the result of some Christian in the woodpile somewhere in Africa ?
Gads, you will rock North American homosexuals to the core, their narrative apparently doesn´t work in other parts of the world.
Who is their boogy man in Africa, one wonders. Could it be an entire culture geared to exclusion and violence toward homosexuals ?
Certainly despicable behavior, but in these PC times, can an entire culture, especially one that is represented as downtrodden, be responsible ?
shmogie
Well-Known Member
No, Just as a lawyer is totally representative of his client, and his words are as if the client spoke them, God spoke the words of the Bible.
You and others may find this incongruous, but really, that doesn´t change anything.
You have your beliefs and opinions, I have mine.
Audie
Veteran Member
Think away about bogus crapola, but I presented
some reasonably trustworthy sources, of which there
are many more, and you offered an opinion.
the thing about spiders and snakes is silly and irrelevant.
There is nothing new or surprising about self hate,
or turning it outwards onto other people.
Christians are trained, in some cases, to loathe
homosexuality, as you well know. You also know
that self-awareness is not everyone's thing. And
that denial is a commonplace.
Nothing new about some big preacher going on about
sin, and next thing he is arrested with a prostitute.
Or he has embezzled from his flock.
It is pretty much a truisms that the more they shot and
declaim about how bad those others are, you can
pretty much figure they are talking about themselves.
Audie
Veteran Member
As long as it is stated as your opinion, not as
facts not in evidence "God spoke the words of the Bible"
Incongruous is not the word I would use, but
in the event, it is still what they said god told 'em to write.
Even if he did.
You are not, btw, saying that god spoke all of
those words?
Surely he is not credited with "'whither thou goest, I
will go".
We Never Know
No Slack
Thinking/saying someone that doesn't like homosexuals is secretly hiding their homosexual side is silly.
How about someone who doesn't like jews or blacks. Are they secretly hiding their love for them?
The amount of people who strongly dislike gays far surpasses the amount of gay people elsewhere.
We Never Know
No Slack
Preacher's are humans like the rest of us. Thinking they won't sin because they are a preacher is naive.
No. They're hiding they are Jewish, or black.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Yes, there are all forms of xenophobia. Sadly it is part of the human condition. Recognizing this is perhaps the best way to combat hate.
Actually statistically very likely.
The Kinsey scale tells that only around 14% of the population is completely straight. Everyone else, to some degree, has some homosexual feelings
Audie
Veteran Member
Again disirrelevant but, hey, suture self. I dont
care if you understand the principle of not.
Samael_Khan
Goosebender
No it isn't actually. Having spoken to various people from different African countries, whether Christian or follow the traditional religion of their tribe, many dislike homosexuality. Some even say it is a "white man thing".
It is also interesting that the Middle East and the majority of North Africa is influenced by Islam, and Islam is against homosexuality as from what I understand Sharia requires the killing of homosexuals, such as is the example of Brunei.
In South Africa, where I am from, in which Cape Town is sometimes said to be the homosexual capital of the world, there are many from indigenous African tribes who are Homosexual,such as Xhosa and Zulu's, as it is accepted here to an extent. Then again, it is more western than other African countries.
I suspect it is the culture itself and the traditions. They definitely contribute to the issue but I don't know whether it is the whole of it.
I think that comparing their laws to other downtrodden nations can explain whether it is ingrained in the culture, as the question is "why is it mainly in those nations and not the other downtrodden ones around the world that enforces this?".
Even well educated people, such as those from Kenya, Nigeria and Zimbabwe, the three most well educated countries in Africa, have a prejudice towards homosexuality as they don't understand it. They think it is weird.
I would actually have to read more on it to explain further besides my experiences with the many who I have encountered.
Audie
Veteran Member
We Never Know
No Slack
Do people who disbelieve/deny a god exists, secretly worship a god? It's pretty much the same principle.
stvdv
Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
But then it is the same with straight people. They can't fool me they are "trying" continuously to make babies (while using the pill).
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Oh damn!!!