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Earth

King Phenomenon

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According to science, do you believe the Earth will stop supporting life in 2 billion years and ultimately get consumed by the sun in 7 billion years? Why?
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Well, your time line is a little off, but yes, stars begin expanding when their fuel starts to run short.
As for Earth supporting life in two billion years, I'm not entirely sure it'll still be supporting life in two thousand years.
 

King Phenomenon

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Well, your time line is a little off, but yes, stars begin expanding when their fuel starts to run short.
As for Earth supporting life in two billion years, I'm not entirely sure it'll still be supporting life in two thousand years.
Microbes will survive. Cyanobacteria too.
 

wellwisher

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According to science, do you believe the Earth will stop supporting life in 2 billion years and ultimately get consumed by the sun in 7 billion years? Why?
I am not sure consensus science has all the answers. For example, humans have made elements in the lab that do not naturally exist in nature. Science has made 24 different artificial atoms mostly heavier than Uranium. In spite of this being done at earth surface conditions, other scientists will claim the sun is limited to making a few smaller atoms. This does not sound right, but may be due to arrogance and poor science theory with too much casino math.

From applied chemistry as we increase temperature and pressure materials will change properties. Particle accelerator data uses the equivalent of extreme temperature; energy, but it does not have the containment pressures, any near that in the core of the sun. Particle accelerator data is more like low pressure isobar data but lacks phase data at sustained extreme pressures, like the sun. Solar flares remind me of a particle accelerator blasting into material phases of decreasing pressures; fusion hammer.

Why doesn't the sun just chain react and end quickly like a giant hydrogen bomb? This could be explained with solar core phases behaving differently than expected.

There have also been many recent provocative discoveries by science, concerning the inner earth, which are not yet fully taken into account by consensus science. The end of life on earth estimate may be based on obsolete earth and solar science.

For example, there are oceans of water below the crust of the earth in the upper mantle. This is not your normal water, but a very aggressive phase of water that can dissolve most crustal materials allowing the plates to slide; ionic water. If some of this water was to eat upward, change phase and reach the oceans, it would give a surface affect similar to global warming, but created from within the earth; thermal vents releasing CO2 via ocean heating. It would also raise the ocean levels if it was too severe.

If you look at the earth, we have an oxygen rich atmosphere and a large metallic iron core almost the size of the moon. There is a chemical potential between the big iron ball; Fe, and the atmospheric oxygen; O2, with the oxygen constantly created by plants; life and solar energy. The result is these reactions should form iron oxide in the core; lodestone, and free electrons.

If this electrochemical circuit was connected and in affect, we should expect to see electrons flowing from the iron core to the surface. The oceans are slightly negative; alkaline, and lightning moves between earth and atmosphere. The iron core could supply endless electric energy and heat, once we learn to tap into it. Our blood contains iron and oxygen; hemoglobin.

Before there was life on earth, the earth had no surface oxygen. But as single plant cells formed and started to use photosynthesis, the surface oxygen levels began and started to increased. As life evolved and spread this would have increased the potential to the iron core.

All the continents were together about 230 million years ago when life was thriving; start of the age of dinosaurs. At that time, the continents started to spread out; Pangea. This suggest the circuit had been made or jumped to another gear. Ultimately the sun is the driving behind the iron-oxygen circuit. Recent data also shows that the earth's iron core is rotating faster than the surface; electric engine and motor heat.
 

wellwisher

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Water is an important part of this dynamics, since water should exist from the atmosphere all the way to the core, based on the extreme phases of water that exist at extreme pressure and temperature. The atmosphere is water vapor and cloud phases. The surface is liquid and solid water; polar ice. As water get hotter and under pressure deeper in the earth's crust, we have hydrothermal water; super critical water. Inside the mantle is super-ionic water. The outer core is connected to ionic water, and the core has metallic water. These phases of water define the distinct layers of the inner earth. Water naturally heads to the core due to increasing entropy; 2nd law, since these phases become more and more aggressive to inner earth materials, with dissolving increasing the entropy. The hydrogen of ionic water help to remove electrons from the iron core and mediates it flow to the surface.

When the sun evaporates water into the atmosphere, the atmosphere becomes more positively charged due to the open hydrogen bonds of water vapor. The oxygen of water can accommodate having to hold more electron density, through magnetic addition, lowering the EM force compared to the exposed positive charge of hydrogen with magnetic addition. This positive affect from water vapor, adds to the oxidation affect of O2 in the atmosphere; both need electrons. This affect is amplified during thunderstorms; lightning.

One would expect that the equator, by having the highest rate of solar evaporation, would be the main zone for the flows of iron electrons to the surface. Data show that the earth is not just larger at the equator; centrifugal force, but this material is also fluffier; less dense, than the inner earth from pole to pole. Pole to pole has denser materials, than the inner earth materials at the equator; based on seismic data. This may be due to the electron and water flow maxima at the equator causing a phase boundary shift in the inner earth water/oxide phases.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
According to science, do you believe the Earth will stop supporting life in 2 billion years and ultimately get consumed by the sun in 7 billion years? Why?

I don't know about the 2 billion, I'd be surprised if life is not extinct long before that. Certainly human life will be gone on a few thousand years, other life will disappear as earth itself evolves

When our sun runs out of fuel in around 6 billion years it will expand into a red giant star. Earth will be s scorched cinder long before it is consumed by the expanding sun
 

King Phenomenon

Well-Known Member
I don't know about the 2 billion, I'd be surprised if life is not extinct long before that. Certainly human life will be gone on a few thousand years, other life will disappear as earth itself evolves

When our sun runs out of fuel in around 6 billion years it will expand into a red giant star. Earth will be s scorched cinder long before it is consumed by the expanding sun
Human life will be gone in a few thousand years? oh man that sucks hahaha
 
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