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[/font][font=trebuchet ms, Arial, Helvetica]Deism: Past, Present, and Future
13 June 2004 (This sermon/essay is a little different, as it was presented as a speech to the UUF of Galveston County.)
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A few years ago, I was browsing through the books in a Barnes and Noble, and I came across an Encyclopedia of Religion dont ask me which one, I dont remember. Being a Deist of many years, I quickly thumbed through the leafs of the book and found the entry under Deism
I will never forget what it said. It described Deism as A dead religious movement of the 18th century that called described a belief of a clockmaker God through the use of reason and then went on to talk a little about the history of Deism.
I was flabbergasted. A Dead Religion? I had for many years been an adherent of a Dead Religion? How did that happen?!?
Though I had held Deistic beliefs for around 6 years at that point, it is that moment that I remember taking Deism from being my personal philosophy and beginning to help form it into a religion that was very much alive.
I want to thank you all for allowing me to come and speak with you today. I also want to thank you all for your interest in Deism, both today and in the classes you will be conducting over the next few months. It is my hope that such interest will go a long way to continuing to disprove that unknown encyclopedist who chose to dismiss Deism as something of the past.
But in beginning to look at Deism, it is appropriate that we look at it in three specific ways . (I was raised southern Baptist, so all of my talks have either 3 or 7 points and I think you all might prefer 3 to 7!)
Since that encyclopedist chose to count Deism as a religion of the past, I would like to start with a short discussion of where Deism came from. Every Deist loves to celebrate the Deistic tendencies of many of the founding fathers of our nation, but Deism finds its roots much further back than that.
In fact, Deism is a religion that borrows heavily from many different branches of philosophy. And, many Deist writers have claimed that Deism goes back much further The most well known Deistic author, Thomas Paine once wrote that
[/font][font=trebuchet ms, Arial, Helvetica]Quote:[/font][font=trebuchet ms, Arial, Helvetica]The only religion that has not been invented, and that has in it every evidence of divine originality, is pure and simple Deism. It must have been the first, and will probably be the last, that man believes[/font][font=trebuchet ms, Arial, Helvetica]
In other words, that the basic concepts of Deism have existed since the beginning of our universe, and were only waiting upon human Reason to comprehend them. In such, there is no real beginning to Deism And that anyone has the ability to discover Deism for himself.
So, the early writers in Deism did not invent it only uncovered it. In fact, those writers borrowed ideas about Reason and Morality from Stoics such as Marcus Aurelius, ideas about God from the Aristotelian prime mover of the Universe model, ideas about society from such writers as Sir. Thomas Moore, and many many others.
In fact, every Deist I have ever talked to has been inspired to his Deism in a different way. Some have found inspiration in a leaf, or the precise nature of mathmatics, or (like me) in the give and take of Philosophy. Ask each Deist were Deism came from, and you will get a different answer.
The first use of the word Deism is attributed to an English Gentleman/philosopher, Lord Herbert of Cherbury, in the middle 16th century. He described a set of beliefs that acknowledged a creator God, and called for reverence to that God, but did not accept that the Bible was the ultimate authority on that God that you could see God better in nature than in the Bible . Brave words even today but in his time Well, lets just say he was glad to be an aristocrat!
Deism ran hand in hand with the Enlightenment of the 17th century and is connected with many of the famous names of that time including Voltaire, Rousseau, Volney, and Matthew Tindal, among others. It also was a topic of discussion among the parlor gentlemen of American history, finding adherents in the likes of Jefferson, Franklin, and of course Thomas Paine. Traces of Deism can be found in much of the founding of our nation . Because it was these same gentlemen/philosophers who choose to rebel against England. Many Deists will even say that the Declaration of Independence is a Deist document.
Deistic works began to be written for the more common man, most notably Thomas Paines Age of Reason but also The Law of Nature by Constantin François de Chasseboeuf Volney. One of my Deistic heros also wrote his seminal work at this time, Ethan Allens Reason: the only Oracle of Man but even I admit it is a read you have to work at
Each of these works, and the many others I wont go into naming here, were all different they all outlined different views of God, Creation, and mans place in it. How then can they all be of the same Religion? Remember that question, for it is fundamental to understanding what Deism is.
Deism has seemed, through the centuries, to have been in a wax/wane relationship with Christian Fundamentalism. Each time that Deism begins to rise to prominence, it is followed by a Fundamental Revival in the Christian community. Examples of this can be found in The Great Awakening of the late 1600s, and the Second Great Awakening of the early 1800s. Whether this cycle is related to each other, I cannot say . But it is a point to ponder!
Since that time, Deist adherents and writers have cropped up from time to time including such notables as Abraham Lincoln and Albert Einstein But Deism has remained a private, individual choice of belief, and not a topic of public discussion.
Unlike a lot of religious beliefs, understanding its past, while providing context, does not really let you know what Deism is.
The best definition I have been able to come up with is in the Tenets of the Church that I belong to. Let me read them to you
[/font][font=trebuchet ms, Arial, Helvetica]Quote:[/font][font=trebuchet ms, Arial, Helvetica]" I freely believe in God as being discovered through nature and reason, rejecting revealed religion and its authority over humanity. I believe that all humans are equal. Further, as God has not shown favor for one people over another and has given us all that we need, that we should follow God's example and give to others as we can."[/font][font=trebuchet ms, Arial, Helvetica]
Deists believe that a Deity exists, and that all you need to discover this is an ability to use the tool of Reason and a look at the universe around you. Many Deists believe that this Deity created the universe, but not all. Many Deists believe that this Deity does not interfere in the universe he created, but not all. Many Deists believe that revelations from God are misleading and false but not all.
But all Deists believe in a Deity, and that the only thing you need to have to believe in that Deity is an ability to use reason. Deism is a belief in God, and an agreement that a certain method should be used to decide all the other things that you believe.
A friend of mine once wrote a series of you might be a Deist if one-liners and though he was being humorous, there is much truth in a few of them
[/font][font=trebuchet ms, Arial, Helvetica]Quote:[/font][font=trebuchet ms, Arial, Helvetica]If you are the only member of your particular school of Deistic thought, you might be a Deist .
If people think you are attacking God when talking to Christians, but defending God when talking to Atheists, then you might be a Deist.
If you know more about the founding fathers religious views than their political ones, you might be a Deist .
If whenever you write about Reason, you always capitalize it you might be a Deist .
If, after years of study, thought, and discussion, you still have trouble defining Deism, then you might just be a Deist .[/font][font=trebuchet ms, Arial, Helvetica]
Now, I am going to make a disclaimer here as all Deists should do, but we often forget. I can speak to you only about Deism as I understand it. Others may disagree with me on this detail or that detail, and that does not make them any less a Deist than I am In fact, such variety in beliefs in one of the strongest aspects of Deism
So, how can two people believe radically different things, and yet still be of the same religion?
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[/font][font=trebuchet ms, Arial, Helvetica]Deism: Past, Present, and Future
13 June 2004 (This sermon/essay is a little different, as it was presented as a speech to the UUF of Galveston County.)
[/font][font=trebuchet ms, Arial, Helvetica]Quote:[/font][font=trebuchet ms, Arial, Helvetica](The Davidium Disclaimer: Sermons of the minister are products of his slightly deranged mind, a mind that even the holder does not entirely understand. As such, all such sermons are not Dogma, and are only the, possibly temporary, opinion of Minister David at the time he set pen to paper, so to speak. In other words, read these sermons not looking for dictates, but hoping that they will inspire thought in you.)[/font][font=trebuchet ms, Arial, Helvetica]
A few years ago, I was browsing through the books in a Barnes and Noble, and I came across an Encyclopedia of Religion dont ask me which one, I dont remember. Being a Deist of many years, I quickly thumbed through the leafs of the book and found the entry under Deism
I will never forget what it said. It described Deism as A dead religious movement of the 18th century that called described a belief of a clockmaker God through the use of reason and then went on to talk a little about the history of Deism.
I was flabbergasted. A Dead Religion? I had for many years been an adherent of a Dead Religion? How did that happen?!?
Though I had held Deistic beliefs for around 6 years at that point, it is that moment that I remember taking Deism from being my personal philosophy and beginning to help form it into a religion that was very much alive.
I want to thank you all for allowing me to come and speak with you today. I also want to thank you all for your interest in Deism, both today and in the classes you will be conducting over the next few months. It is my hope that such interest will go a long way to continuing to disprove that unknown encyclopedist who chose to dismiss Deism as something of the past.
But in beginning to look at Deism, it is appropriate that we look at it in three specific ways . (I was raised southern Baptist, so all of my talks have either 3 or 7 points and I think you all might prefer 3 to 7!)
Since that encyclopedist chose to count Deism as a religion of the past, I would like to start with a short discussion of where Deism came from. Every Deist loves to celebrate the Deistic tendencies of many of the founding fathers of our nation, but Deism finds its roots much further back than that.
In fact, Deism is a religion that borrows heavily from many different branches of philosophy. And, many Deist writers have claimed that Deism goes back much further The most well known Deistic author, Thomas Paine once wrote that
[/font][font=trebuchet ms, Arial, Helvetica]Quote:[/font][font=trebuchet ms, Arial, Helvetica]The only religion that has not been invented, and that has in it every evidence of divine originality, is pure and simple Deism. It must have been the first, and will probably be the last, that man believes[/font][font=trebuchet ms, Arial, Helvetica]
In other words, that the basic concepts of Deism have existed since the beginning of our universe, and were only waiting upon human Reason to comprehend them. In such, there is no real beginning to Deism And that anyone has the ability to discover Deism for himself.
So, the early writers in Deism did not invent it only uncovered it. In fact, those writers borrowed ideas about Reason and Morality from Stoics such as Marcus Aurelius, ideas about God from the Aristotelian prime mover of the Universe model, ideas about society from such writers as Sir. Thomas Moore, and many many others.
In fact, every Deist I have ever talked to has been inspired to his Deism in a different way. Some have found inspiration in a leaf, or the precise nature of mathmatics, or (like me) in the give and take of Philosophy. Ask each Deist were Deism came from, and you will get a different answer.
The first use of the word Deism is attributed to an English Gentleman/philosopher, Lord Herbert of Cherbury, in the middle 16th century. He described a set of beliefs that acknowledged a creator God, and called for reverence to that God, but did not accept that the Bible was the ultimate authority on that God that you could see God better in nature than in the Bible . Brave words even today but in his time Well, lets just say he was glad to be an aristocrat!
Deism ran hand in hand with the Enlightenment of the 17th century and is connected with many of the famous names of that time including Voltaire, Rousseau, Volney, and Matthew Tindal, among others. It also was a topic of discussion among the parlor gentlemen of American history, finding adherents in the likes of Jefferson, Franklin, and of course Thomas Paine. Traces of Deism can be found in much of the founding of our nation . Because it was these same gentlemen/philosophers who choose to rebel against England. Many Deists will even say that the Declaration of Independence is a Deist document.
Deistic works began to be written for the more common man, most notably Thomas Paines Age of Reason but also The Law of Nature by Constantin François de Chasseboeuf Volney. One of my Deistic heros also wrote his seminal work at this time, Ethan Allens Reason: the only Oracle of Man but even I admit it is a read you have to work at
Each of these works, and the many others I wont go into naming here, were all different they all outlined different views of God, Creation, and mans place in it. How then can they all be of the same Religion? Remember that question, for it is fundamental to understanding what Deism is.
Deism has seemed, through the centuries, to have been in a wax/wane relationship with Christian Fundamentalism. Each time that Deism begins to rise to prominence, it is followed by a Fundamental Revival in the Christian community. Examples of this can be found in The Great Awakening of the late 1600s, and the Second Great Awakening of the early 1800s. Whether this cycle is related to each other, I cannot say . But it is a point to ponder!
Since that time, Deist adherents and writers have cropped up from time to time including such notables as Abraham Lincoln and Albert Einstein But Deism has remained a private, individual choice of belief, and not a topic of public discussion.
Unlike a lot of religious beliefs, understanding its past, while providing context, does not really let you know what Deism is.
The best definition I have been able to come up with is in the Tenets of the Church that I belong to. Let me read them to you
[/font][font=trebuchet ms, Arial, Helvetica]Quote:[/font][font=trebuchet ms, Arial, Helvetica]" I freely believe in God as being discovered through nature and reason, rejecting revealed religion and its authority over humanity. I believe that all humans are equal. Further, as God has not shown favor for one people over another and has given us all that we need, that we should follow God's example and give to others as we can."[/font][font=trebuchet ms, Arial, Helvetica]
Deists believe that a Deity exists, and that all you need to discover this is an ability to use the tool of Reason and a look at the universe around you. Many Deists believe that this Deity created the universe, but not all. Many Deists believe that this Deity does not interfere in the universe he created, but not all. Many Deists believe that revelations from God are misleading and false but not all.
But all Deists believe in a Deity, and that the only thing you need to have to believe in that Deity is an ability to use reason. Deism is a belief in God, and an agreement that a certain method should be used to decide all the other things that you believe.
A friend of mine once wrote a series of you might be a Deist if one-liners and though he was being humorous, there is much truth in a few of them
[/font][font=trebuchet ms, Arial, Helvetica]Quote:[/font][font=trebuchet ms, Arial, Helvetica]If you are the only member of your particular school of Deistic thought, you might be a Deist .
If people think you are attacking God when talking to Christians, but defending God when talking to Atheists, then you might be a Deist.
If you know more about the founding fathers religious views than their political ones, you might be a Deist .
If whenever you write about Reason, you always capitalize it you might be a Deist .
If, after years of study, thought, and discussion, you still have trouble defining Deism, then you might just be a Deist .[/font][font=trebuchet ms, Arial, Helvetica]
Now, I am going to make a disclaimer here as all Deists should do, but we often forget. I can speak to you only about Deism as I understand it. Others may disagree with me on this detail or that detail, and that does not make them any less a Deist than I am In fact, such variety in beliefs in one of the strongest aspects of Deism
So, how can two people believe radically different things, and yet still be of the same religion?
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