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Current administration supporters

AtheistAJ

Member
Can those of you who still support this current administration, especially the president and the vice-president say what are the reasons of your support and which are your religious beliefs in brief. Maybe you used to support them but don't anymore, say it all here.
I can't say anything about either.
 

jonny

Well-Known Member
I support some things and I don't support some things. I don't blindly follow any politician or party. I have opinions based on the issues.
 

Darkdale

World Leader Pretend
AtheistAJ said:
Can those of you who still support this current administration, especially the president and the vice-president say what are the reasons of your support and which are your religious beliefs in brief. Maybe you used to support them but don't anymore, say it all here.
I can't say anything about either.

I am unhappy with the current administration, but if it was Bush v. Gore or Bush v. Kerry or Bush v. Hillary Clinton... I'd still vote for Bush.

My problem is that President Bush is too liberal for my taste. He's increased government more in 5 years than his father and Clinton combined. But Democrats would be worse... so I guess I should be thankful.

What we need is a moderate democrat like Bill Clinton, Mark Warner or Joe Lieberman. Someone capable of working with others and earning respect. Bush is just simply the least inspiring leader in the history of uninspiring leaders.

Anyway, The Republican's abandonment of conservative principles is why I voted for democrats at the local level. Many of Virginia's democrats are more politically conservative than the Republicans, who have what seems to be a National Christian Socialist agenda.

I'm still in favor of Bush and the GOP over the Democrats. So, in that sense, I'm supportive... and I support the war on terror, though I think it is time to get out of Iraq.
 

jeffrey

†ßig Dog†
There is a difference between supporting and agreeing with. In Romans 7, it states to support your people in office. BUT I do have one question, Where is NetDoc? :D :D
 

MdmSzdWhtGuy

Well-Known Member
I am a Bush supporter in the sense that he wakes up every day and wants to go out and kill terrorists. Other than that, I am not a fan at all, except in the sense that Kerry or Gore would be a worse choice.

I am a skeptic/agnostic by religious affiliation, and a staunch hardcore Libertarian by political affiliation. Sadly I feel that the modern Republican and Democratic parties are growing closer together on just about all issues except foreign policy.

I am a social liberal who despises the idea of the government mandating laws based on a particular religions ideas of morality. We should each of us be allowed the maximum amount of freedoms to grow and enjoy life right up to the tip of our neighbor's nose, but no farther.

Re: concerns of national security and fiscal matters I am probably a couple of steps to the right of Mousselini. In these matters Bush and Co. have not gone nearly far enough.

So for me, they are WAY to theocratic on social issues, and not nearly conservative enough in matters of national security and money, specifically gov't spending and taxes.

B.
 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
I support this administration with my taxes, and resent every single second of it. If it were down to Bush Vs Attila the Hun, I would vote the latter! :D
 
M

Majikthise

Guest
NetDoc said:
I support this administration with my taxes, and resent every single second of it. If it were down to Bush Vs Attila the Hun, I would vote the latter! :D
That's so dumb it's funny!!:biglaugh:
 

jonny

Well-Known Member
What we need is a moderate democrat like Bill Clinton, Mark Warner or Joe Lieberman. Someone capable of working with others and earning respect. Bush is just simply the least inspiring leader in the history of uninspiring leaders.
I would have voted for Joe Lieberman over Bush. Unfortunately, democrats didn't like him because he didn't bash Bush enough. When will they learn that you can't win over voters by bashing someone who they "kinda" support. Didn't Kerry's wife call us stupid or something like that.

I supported the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, but I don't support everything that they've done since we got there. I think that it is a failure of the administration that we still have not caught Bin Laden or the guy in Iraq whose name I can't spell (Zachari?).

I don't support the crazy spending that has been going on. The government should have to balance its checkbook the same as everyone else. I've come to the conclusion that it isn't a good idea for the president and congress to both be ruled by the same party because then things actually get done. The government works better when the bureaucracykeeps politicians from spending money and forces them to think things through and debate issues.
 

mr.guy

crapsack
johnny said:
The government works better when the bureaucracykeeps politicians from spending money and forces them to think things through and debate issues.
Sounds like an episode of Yes, Minister..........................................not.
 

BUDDY

User of Aspercreme
I support President Bush in his committment to the war on global terrorism, and I support him in his early quest for tax reform (although I don't know whatever happened to that). I also agree with him about torte reform and his efforts to end a runaway judiciary who imposes their persaonal prejudices and beliefs on the rest of society by creating law instead and interpreting it.

I strongly disagree with him on government spending, illegal immigration, and to a certain extent the Patriot Act (some parts I like, many I don't).

Overall, I think that he is an effective leader and a standup guy. I don't buy into the conspiracy theories surrounding him and am strongly opposed to the strong hatred of him by almost everyone on the left. I can't find another president who has gone through so much in his term as president as Bush has (okay, maybe Lincoln) and been so villified by everyone in the opposite party than his own. It really is quite astonishing and quite sad.

Happy Veterans Day!!
 

BUDDY

User of Aspercreme
mr.guy said:
Sounds like an episode of Yes, Minister..........................................not.
You have to admit though, the tendancy in Washington is to simply throw money at a problem, instead of really investigating the root cause and fixing it. It hasn't worked ever since they started doing it and it never will. In that respect, I agree with the previous statement.
 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
EEWRED said:
In all honesty, I could eat a bowl of Alphabets Cereal and crap out a more intelligent response than that.
You should try it! Anything would be an improvement over your current posts. :D

At least the VAST majority of users who would have posted here this time last year have seen the light and do not see Shrub as anything more than an idiot savant.
 

jonny

Well-Known Member
NetDoc said:
At least the VAST majority of users who would have posted here this time last year have seen the light and do not see Shrub as anything more than an idiot savant.
I felt the same way about Bush last year as I do now. I spent the two weeks before the election trying to convince myself to vote for Kerry. When I finally had the ballot in my hand I couldn't do it. At least Bush is a likeable guy. I couldn't find anything to like about Kerry.
 

Darkdale

World Leader Pretend
NetDoc said:
At least the VAST majority of users who would have posted here this time last year have seen the light and do not see Shrub as anything more than an idiot savant.

And you democrats keep losing to him lol Sooooo sad. :D I mean, I think most Americans would have voted for a virus over Bush... It's just, they'd rather vote for Bush than a democrat. Go figure. Shows where democrats rank on the chain.

Virus ---> President Bush ---> Democrat

Damn.
 

retrorich

SUPER NOT-A-MOD
NetDoc said:
At least the VAST majority of users who would have posted here this time last year have seen the light and do not see Shrub as anything more than an idiot savant.
I agree with the "idiot" part, but not the "savant" part.

sa•vant \sa-"vänt, s€-, "sa-v€nt\ n : a learned person : scholar

(c)2000 Zane Publishing, Inc. and Merriam-Webster, Incorporated. All rights reserved.

 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
I would agree with you RR... and as someone pointed out, where does that leave his followers?

Dark Dale: get a grip! You couldn't beat Clinton, so big whoop. We'll see just how tired this country is of cruel and evil politicians who sell there country out for thirteen shekels of silver. Unlike Clinton's victories, niether of Shrubs was without controversey. Let's hope the bullies are kicked out this time.
 

Aqualung

Tasty
MdmSzdWhtGuy said:
I am a Bush supporter in the sense that he wakes up every day and wants to go out and kill terrorists. Other than that, I am not a fan at all, except in the sense that Kerry or Gore would be a worse choice.

I am a skeptic/agnostic by religious affiliation, and a staunch hardcore Libertarian by political affiliation. Sadly I feel that the modern Republican and Democratic parties are growing closer together on just about all issues except foreign policy.

I am a social liberal who despises the idea of the government mandating laws based on a particular religions ideas of morality. We should each of us be allowed the maximum amount of freedoms to grow and enjoy life right up to the tip of our neighbor's nose, but no farther.

Re: concerns of national security and fiscal matters I am probably a couple of steps to the right of Mousselini. In these matters Bush and Co. have not gone nearly far enough.

So for me, they are WAY to theocratic on social issues, and not nearly conservative enough in matters of national security and money, specifically gov't spending and taxes.

B.
MdmSzdWhtGuy pretty much summed me up. Bush is the lesser of the two evils. He's really not doing his party a huge favour by making the government so big (No Child Left Behind, for example), and I certainly would have appreciated a smaller government. But he at least will try to do what is best for this country in terms of international policy, instead of being suckered in to doing what the UN or other countries/groups want him to do.

I'm a Latter Day Saint by religion, and, as MdmSzdWhtGuy said,
MdmSzdWhtGuy said:
a staunch hardcore Libertarian by political affiliation. Sadly I feel that the modern Republican and Democratic parties are growing closer together on just about all issues except foreign policy.
 

mr.guy

crapsack
Aqualung said:
But he at least will try to do what is best for this country in terms of international policy,
Ahh, yes. May i ask, how was banning abortion in African clinics good for his country?
 
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