NulliuSINverba
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"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." ~ John 3:16
Whoever? Does that even cover Satan?
Some additional questions:
Do you believe that the Bible is the inerrant word of God?
Do you believe that Satan has free will?
Do you believe that the "whoever" on John 3:16 needs an asterisk?
At least one Christian claims to know that it is impossible for Satan to repent:
"It is not an issue of whether or not God will let the fallen angels and Satan repent. When we say 'let them repent,' it implies that God will allow them or give them permission to change their ways."
Read that quote a few times. Doesn't it sound like Matt Slick (the clownish apologist/huckster linked and quoted above and below) is saying that Satan and the rest of the fallen angels have no choice in the matter? Isn't he flatly declaring that Satan would require God's permission to change?
That's an interesting thing to consider. Does it follow that Satan needed God's permission to rebel? Or was that a free decision? What does this say about the manner in which some Christians conceive of free will? What does it say about their view of evil?
Doesn't this sound like Slick believes that evil was created by God and is held in place by His will? In an even more embarrassing assertion Slick goes on to offer the following definition of evil:
"Evil is the opposite of God's holiness. It is the desire to do that which is against God, to inflict pain and suffering, and to have extreme malice towards anyone."
Shall we ignore the fact that the Bible is chock-stock with instances of God ordering the infliction of pain and suffering and exhibiting malicious intent?
See: Do As I Say And Not As I Do.
Where in the Bible does it explicitly state that Jesus didn't die to redeem the totality of all sin? Where does it explicitly state that Satan is somehow exempt from grace?
"Furthermore, there is no atoning sacrifice by which sins of the demonic realm could be removed."
How can he possibly know that? Slick just pulled that one out ofhis *** thin air, didn't he? Why am I not surprised?
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No one said that it had to make sense, I suppose.
Whoever? Does that even cover Satan?
Some additional questions:
Do you believe that the Bible is the inerrant word of God?
Do you believe that Satan has free will?
Do you believe that the "whoever" on John 3:16 needs an asterisk?
At least one Christian claims to know that it is impossible for Satan to repent:
"It is not an issue of whether or not God will let the fallen angels and Satan repent. When we say 'let them repent,' it implies that God will allow them or give them permission to change their ways."
Read that quote a few times. Doesn't it sound like Matt Slick (the clownish apologist/huckster linked and quoted above and below) is saying that Satan and the rest of the fallen angels have no choice in the matter? Isn't he flatly declaring that Satan would require God's permission to change?
That's an interesting thing to consider. Does it follow that Satan needed God's permission to rebel? Or was that a free decision? What does this say about the manner in which some Christians conceive of free will? What does it say about their view of evil?
Doesn't this sound like Slick believes that evil was created by God and is held in place by His will? In an even more embarrassing assertion Slick goes on to offer the following definition of evil:
"Evil is the opposite of God's holiness. It is the desire to do that which is against God, to inflict pain and suffering, and to have extreme malice towards anyone."
Shall we ignore the fact that the Bible is chock-stock with instances of God ordering the infliction of pain and suffering and exhibiting malicious intent?
See: Do As I Say And Not As I Do.
Where in the Bible does it explicitly state that Jesus didn't die to redeem the totality of all sin? Where does it explicitly state that Satan is somehow exempt from grace?
"Furthermore, there is no atoning sacrifice by which sins of the demonic realm could be removed."
How can he possibly know that? Slick just pulled that one out of
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No one said that it had to make sense, I suppose.
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