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Children are the Future

Discussion in 'The Social World' started by Majikthise, May 10, 2006.

  1. Majikthise

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    Something I saw on Frontline last night upset me and I have to talk about it.

    The piece was about how people in Palestine felt about Hamas. There had recently been some fighting and three young men from Palestinian Hamas were killed.

    One was 18 years old and his father was being interviewed. What this man said really stuck with me. He was asked how he felt about loosing his son, ....

    "I lost two other sons before this one was martyred, but a year and a half ago god sent me another son. God is great , he rewards us."

    In his arms was a toddler, amongst the tumult and guns being waved in the air, a look of pride on his face for his new son's future sacrifice in the name of allah.

    Insanity.
     
  2. PHOTOTAKER

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    children are not responsible for the faults of there parents; if they take up an unjust cause and not brake the chain, then they still haven't learned that violence is not the way. I believe that the greatest commandment ever is "love one another" if we all care and do good unto each other children all around the world would have an exciting future. Such is the thing of the natural man, even the US cannot deal with it yet it is trying to fix the natural man elsewhere around the world... shed all thing that are unjust and the children will no longer take up arms ageist there brethren and will prevail over evil... the future for that child is up to him, I hope he questions the beliefs and not just accept them... I did the same just recently and fond that the fullness of all truths in the world is with me and it is satisfying I have no question that cannot be answered nor do I feel empty as other I know feel about there lives... children are the sunshine of god they represent peace and love, yet they can be molded to do horrible and outrages things that sicken the good, eventually it will be his choice all we can do is hope for the best...
     
  3. Majikthise

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    I feel terrible for that poor child and any children who suffer because of what man percieves as god's desires. I have two small children myself and would never use them in such a manner as this guy intends to. To increase his own imagined status in his fairytale heaven. This kid won't be given any choices.
     
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    your right untel someone over there says NO... there will be no end... and it is sad...
     
  5. Majikthise

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    I don't see how any parent could do anything but love thier child and give them a chance at life.
     
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    You are right, it's insane. Sad, but the children will not be held responsible for thier parents faults.
     
  7. michel

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    I understand what you are saying, and I feel the same as you do. There is a thing though, that you have to remember; these people's lives are not at all like ours.

    I'll give you an example of what I am talking about by telling you another story, that might illustrate the point I am trying to make.

    About three four years ago, I saw a show on television in which Mother, father and daughter were being interviewed.

    Daughter was strapped in to a wheel chair, with supports and braces for every part of her body. She never said a word, while her story was explained.

    It seems like (I forget, let's say she was involved in a car crash (whatever)), and went into a coma. She was pronounced "Brain stem dead", and the doctors asked the parents if the life support might be switched off. One parent said "yes" while the other said "No way"; so the life support machine stayed on.

    About three years later, her eyes opened, slightly. The doctors were not hopeful, but it was still some sort of sign that there was something there.

    One of the doctors was talking to her (as they do), when he noticed that after he had said something like "And how are we today, young lady ?", one of her eyelids flickered. He thought nothing much about it, but noticed over the next few days that it was happening when she was being talked to. The long and short of it was that the girl was communicating; the only was she could, by opening and closing her eyelids. Once for yes, twice for no.

    When she appeared with her parents on the TV show, the interviewer asked her "Do you wish the life support had been switched off ?" to which she responded "No". "Do you really want to live, the way you are ?" "Yes" was the answer.

    Well, I thought to myself, why the heck ?.............why would the girl want to live? (I wouldn't in her shoes).

    I related the story to a psychotherapist I was seeing at the time, and explained how it was beyond me that this girl could want to go on living.

    "It's simple", he said, "She wants to live because her needs are being met"; "Think about it; the only thing that girl can be offered in life is comfort, warmth, and Love........and she is getting all three.

    "You" (he pointed to me), "have expectations, needs that are not being met, that you have lost out on when you were wrong; your needs aren't being met, and that is why you are depressed".

    I thought about it, and thought "Heck, he is right"............We are happy when our needs are met, unhappy when they aren't.

    Your father, a Muslim, can have nothing better given to him by his sons than their dying for Allah, being martyrs, and Allah, being so wonderfully grateful to the family for having produced wonderful sons, who are ready to die for the cause had given him another son.............another son who would one day make his parents proud of him, by dying for Allah. The greatest need of all, met and given to him by his sons' self sacrifices. No wonder father was proud.

    Does that make sense ? The point is, that you have to be inside the mind of the person you are thinking about; by applying your own culture's rules needs and wants, of course, to you it is a dreadful thing - but not to the Muslim Dad.
     
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