Boston Bombing?

[Gharib]

I got as far as 3:28 and then had to stop. Like with the 9/11 conspiracy theories there is just so much that does not makes sense. There is also the unfortunate reality that the people speaking in the video just don't seem especially bright. My guess is that it is only the "dim bulbs" that will think any of this is noteworthy.

Ah, but of course. Anyone who says differently to the media and to the US government is automatically wrong. That's just beautiful.

 

[apophenia]

You're not serious right? Just like how could Hitler convince a nation to take over the world. That's not possible or was it?

You don't seem to be capable of following your own logic.

You are suggesting that the US government did this secretly.

Hitler did what he did right up front, the people followed him knowing exactly where he was coming from.

Now you are saying these things can be considered the same ?

Did you even bother to think about this reply ? Any more than you thought about your conspiracy theory ? Because you seem to be making dramatic statements without any thought at all.

And you did not answer any of the reasonable questions I asked. Because you can't.

Prove me wrong - answer the questions I asked without making an inane comparison to Hitler.

Here they are again ...

Originally Posted by apophenia
1. How do you think that 'the government' could convince dozens, if not hundreds, of people to take part in such a thing ?

2. Why does no-one ever crack and admit that they were either involved, or have been approached to take part in such a thing ?

3. Which government organisation do you think is in charge of false flag terrorism ? How does this organisation exist without ever being detected ?

Note Gharib, the Nazi Party was not a secret conspiracy, the Gestapo were not a secret conspiracy, so your is an indication that you simply have no idea.

Or is your understanding of history so flawed that you think the Nazis were a secret from the German people ?

Damn the US government. They will pay for it.

Who exactly will pay ?

How will they pay for it Gharib ?

 

[F0uad]

Well i just posted a video and asked opinions i never said the government did it i simply said that the government is capable of doing it, when it kills innocent people around the world why not inside the borders?

Instead of dismissing the videos and questions can someone answer me a couple of questions?

1. Why the Bag that was exploded is the same one that the White male was carrying?
   
2. How come there were already announcements about explosive drills, how come at the Twitter page of the Boston Globe it said "There will be a controlled explosion opposite the library within one minute as part of bomb squad activities" ?
   
3. How come the "suspected" ones had different colors bags and didn't have the white logo on it?
   
4. Why the photo-shopped pictures?
   
5. What about all the eye-witnesses??
   
6. Why did he "suspect" say on hes face-book that he didn't do it and that they set him up if he really did it?
   
7. Why did the officials say that he guy was run over by hes brother but then later the day we see videos were he is escorted by the police? And Witnesses report that he was shot down and driven over by the police.

I am not a truthseeker (and truth-seekers are not lunatics) i simply ask questions.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

Why is it so hard to belief that the government did it? I never understood this...

What about the other things for example that Muslims are targeted by Media outlets, that Americans are not protected by the constitution anymore, that drones are used inside the borders and so forth..

I think a lot of people don't like the government, but conspiracies are a whole other level to not liking them.

 

[F0uad]

I think a lot of people don't like the government, but conspiracies are a whole other level to not liking them.

I don't i simply ask questions, its hard to belief that so many people would just swipe away the questions and call it a conspiracy theory. Most of the people just simply ask questions, what's wrong about asking questions and investigating things on your own? Are we becoming drones and we have to accept everything that the government tells as truth?

 

[F0uad]

F0uad,
My mother was a full conspiracy nut. I understand most of what these people are saying and can actually see where they are coming from. Mom taught me evasive maneuvers because she thought US government was always following her, and she was just a house wife.

I am not so naive, and neither is most of the American populace. Our government has been behind many a coup. They have supplied rebels with weapons and other help that has made foreign governments topple.

I do believe that our government has been knowledgeable of many of the terrorist attacks that have happened against our citizens. However, "being knowledgeable of" and "participating in" are not the same acts.

I stopped reading when you calling your mother a Nut sorry. :run:

 

[The Sum of Awe]

I don't i simply ask questions, its hard to belief that so many people would just swipe away the questions and call it a conspiracy theory. Most of the people just simply ask questions, what's wrong about asking questions and investigating things on your own? Are we becoming drones and we have to accept everything that the government tells as truth?

Nothing wrong with asking questions at all but by definition, if this person actually believe it and are going further than just asking questions like the video seems to be doing, they are conspiracy theorists

The definition of conspiracy theory is: Belief that some covert but influential organization is responsible for an unexplained event.

The questions can be answered, I'm assuming, I'm not lenient toward either side

 

[Rakhel]

Well i just posted a video and asked opinions i never said the government did it i simply said that the government is capable of doing it, when it kills innocent people around the world why not inside the borders?

I don't think anyone did say that.

Instead of dismissing the videos and questions can someone answer me a couple of questions?

1. Why the Bag that was exploded is the same one that the White male was carrying?

1. anything can be photoshopped. Either in or out.
   

   [*]How come there were already announcements about explosive drills, how come at the Twitter page of the Boston Globe it said "There will be a controlled explosion opposite the library within one minute as part of bomb squad activities" ?

   And when were these drills supposed to ocurre? Before or after the race?
   

   [*]How come the "suspected" ones had different colors bags and didn't have the white logo on it?

   maybe because being blowned up makes objects darker
   
   

   [*]Why the photo-shopped pictures?

   Referred to question 1
   
   

   [*]What about all the eye-witnesses??

   There were many eyewitnesses. each seeing what they believed they saw.
   

   [*]Why did he "suspect" say on hes face-book that he didn't do it and that they set him up if he really did it?

   Everyone says they are innocent
   

   [*]Why did the officials say that he guy was run over by hes brother but then later the day we see videos were he is escorted by the police? And Witnesses report that he was shot down and driven over by the police.

   Actually I have heard a few stories concerning Tamerlan. One of the first being that he was in the middle of a shoot out with one officer and starting advancing on him. Him being run over by his brother was the latest.

I am not a truthseeker (and truth-seekers are not lunatics) i simply ask questions.

Feel better?

 

[freethinker44]

Why is it so hard to belief that the government did it? I never understood this...

Why is it so hard to belief that two crazy people did this? Because they are Muslim? If it was a crazy white-American living in the woods, no one would have any problem at all believing it was not the government, but if it is crazy foreign Muslims it must be a government conspiracy?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Why is it so hard to belief that two crazy people did this? Because they are Muslim? If it was a crazy white-American living in the woods, no one would have any problem at all believing it was not the government, but if it is crazy foreign Muslims it must be a government conspiracy?

In fairness, regardless of if we actually know who committed an act of terrorism or not a conspiracy almost always unfolds in it's wake. We know who detonated the Boston bombs, yet there must be a government conspiracy. We don't know who killed President Kennedy, so it must have been the government.
Actually I think it's in the fine print of the job description of the government to be blamed for everything that is or is not your fault.

 

[FearGod]

Why is it so hard to belief that two crazy people did this? Because they are Muslim? If it was a crazy white-American living in the woods, no one would have any problem at all believing it was not the government, but if it is crazy foreign Muslims it must be a government conspiracy?

Not muslims are the ones whom claiming it to be a government conspiracy but the Americans themselves are proving it to be so.

 

[freethinker44]

Not muslims are the ones whom claiming it to be a government conspiracy but the Americans themselves are proving it to be so.

Pretty sure this thread was started by a Muslim claiming a government conspiracy, or wait I'm sorry, not claiming a conspiracy, just "asking questions". Questions like

Why is it so hard to belief that the government did it? I never understood this...

That clearly don't imply government involvement.

 

[F0uad]

anything can be photoshopped. Either in or out.

So the Media photo-shopped the person standing there? :areyoucra

And when were these drills supposed to ocurre? Before or after the race?

I don't know but why are you answering my question with more questions? Don't you find it odd there were drills mentioned on Twitter and speakers?

maybe because being blowned up makes objects darker

The bag is not the same just look at the video and pause it, However it is the same one as the other guy.

Referred to question 1

?? How is this a answer.. What has my first question to do with the editing of the released pictures of the officials?

There were many eyewitnesses. each seeing what they believed they saw.

So Eye-witnesses mean nothing to you? You choose the government over its own civilians?

Everyone says they are innocent

Not "Terrorists'' and certainly not if you planned a bombing were everyone knows you would be the person.

Actually I have heard a few stories concerning Tamerlan. One of the first being that he was in the middle of a shoot out with one officer and starting advancing on him. Him being run over by his brother was the latest.

So why the different stories? , how can he have a ''shoot-out'' when he was cuffed as in the video?

Feel better?

?

I still have yet to hear a argument or a reply, dismissing this by saying its a conspiracy theory is nonsense.

 

[FearGod]

Pretty sure this thread was started by a Muslim claiming a government conspiracy, or wait I'm sorry, not claiming a conspiracy, just "asking questions". Questions like

The thread is started by a Muslim because he found out that some Americans discovered some facts about their goverment conspiracy and there are many videos which is made by Americans and not Muslims but of course it is up to you if you want to think otherwise.

Check this video,who knows maybe the broadcaster is a muslim too.

[youtube]glM0uzg2Hhw[/youtube]
Boston False Flag - FULLY EXPOSED - YouTube

 

[F0uad]

Why is it so hard to belief that two crazy people did this? Because they are Muslim? If it was a crazy white-American living in the woods, no one would have any problem at all believing it was not the government, but if it is crazy foreign Muslims it must be a government conspiracy?

Why even mention Muslim, people who this are in my eyes not Muslims. There are enough ""Muslims"" who bomb themselves and kill other Muslims (Including Non-Muslims). However the America government is also guilty of both and the guy has no connection with Al-Qaeda or any other terrorist organisation so its odd.

 

[Rakhel]

So the Media photo-shopped the person standing there? :areyoucra

Did I say media? No. I am pretty sure I didn't.

I don't know but why are you answering my question with more questions? Don't you find it odd there were drills mentioned on Twitter and speakers?

The reason asked, which should make sense to even you, is that the timing of the drills, if they even happened, would, or should, coincide with the twitter posts

The bag is not the same just look at the video and pause it, However it is the same one as the other guy.

Says who? some guy that wasn't there?

?? How is this a answer.. What has my first question to do with the editing of the released pictures of the officials?

Again you are assuming that it was the a) media or b) the government that did the editing.

So Eye-witnesses mean nothing to you? You choose the government over its own civilians?

I do believe that you are seeing words in my statement that aren't there.

Not "Terrorists'' and certainly not if you planned a bombing were everyone knows you would be the person.

I would be absolutely the most stupidest person on the face of the earth if I committed an act of terror and admitted to it. No matter how much evidence they have against me.

So why the different stories? , how can he have a ''shoot-out'' when he was cuffed as in the video?

Because, much like with Ambassador Rice, the "true" details are finally being told.

I still have yet to hear a argument or a reply, dismissing this by saying its a conspiracy theory is nonsense.

This is all I see you doing to any reply or argument :ignore:



And I thought my mother was bad.

 

[Titanic]

A too soon theory. really.

 

[F0uad]

Did I say media? No. I am pretty sure I didn't.

Well the pictures that are shown on the video are from a media outlet so i don't get your point.

The reason asked, which should make sense to even you, is that the timing of the drills, if they even happened, would, or should, coincide with the twitter posts

[youtube]yuhjRcOfwDc[/youtube]
Eyewitness Account of Controlled Explosion Drill at Boston Marathon - YouTube

and there is much more, heck the drills were even announced true speakers.

Says who? some guy that wasn't there?

Look at the video..

Again you are assuming that it was the a) media or b) the government that did the editing.

Well one of them, because the Media said ''Officials'' released a video/pictures and these pictures seem to be false, just look at the video yourself.

I do believe that you are seeing words in my statement that aren't there.

Well what you suggested is that ''eye-witnesses testimony'' means nothing in this case.

I would be absolutely the most stupidest person on the face of the earth if I committed an act of terror and admitted to it. No matter how much evidence they have against me.

Bin-Laden was not stupid, Al-Qaeda was not stupid and i can continue, if someone is going to ''blow'' something up while knowing your going to get caught i am pretty sure the person is not going to deny anything, are you telling me he lied when he said ''they set me up''?

Because, much like with Ambassador Rice, the "true" details are finally being told.

You lost me there, so a contradicting story is true for you? They told you he he opened fire, yet we see him getting arrested and witnesses testify that he was shot after the arrest.

This is all I see you doing to any reply or argument :ignore:

Serious? Hmm i think your the one who is doing that because you have presented zero refutations.

And I thought my mother was bad.

Well you can stop talking bad about your mother i did not expect it from a Jew but the American culture had infected you maybe?

 

[Rakhel]

Well the pictures that are shown on the video are from a media outlet so i don't get your point.


[youtube]yuhjRcOfwDc[/youtube]
Eyewitness Account of Controlled Explosion Drill at Boston Marathon - YouTube

and there is much more, heck the drills were even announced true speakers.


Look at the video..


Well one of them, because the Media said ''Officials'' released a video/pictures and these pictures seem to be false, just look at the video yourself.


Well what you suggested is that ''eye-witnesses testimony'' means nothing in this case.


Bin-Laden was not stupid, Al-Qaeda was not stupid and i can continue, if someone is going to ''blow'' something up while knowing your going to get caught i am pretty sure the person is not going to deny anything, are you telling me he lied when he said ''they set me up''?


You lost me there, so a contradicting story is true for you? They told you he he opened fire, yet we see him getting arrested and witnesses testify that he was shot after the arrest.


Serious? Hmm i think your the one who is doing that because you have presented zero refutations.

Seriously, I can't talk about it. They have already come to my door for telling you as much as I have.
Don't you know that they are watching everything we say?
It's like...It's like...DUDE!!! Big Brother is a watching me!!
Oh ****!!! They's knocking on my door!!!! I said NOTHING!!!

HEh-yelp!!!Heh-yeelp!!!!
They're coming to take me away! Hehe!
They're coming to take me away!!!
:beach:

IN all seriousness, though, the government does what it does. Nothing we can do to change it. Not unless there is some serious major coup or something like the show Revolution(awesome show btw). If you let one
conspiracy take hold of your brain, well you must bring the cookies.
I brought them the last time.

Well you can stop talking bad about your mother i did not expect it from a Jew but the American culture had infected you maybe?

Trust me, I'm not talking bad about my mother. If I didn't tell the truth about her, she would have felt I was insulting her.

 

[Assad91]

Why is it so hard to belief that two crazy people did this? Because they are Muslim? If it was a crazy white-American living in the woods, no one would have any problem at all believing it was not the government, but if it is crazy foreign Muslims it must be a government conspiracy?

Well they were white Americans. And if it was done by non-muslim whites, it wouldn't have been terrorism. The same way its not terrorism when neonazi shoots up sikh temple thinking they were muslims. Or white christian bombing an abortion clinic and it being arson. Fact is, being muslim, makes one a terrorist. I have seen claims of terrorism being laid against people muslim in name robbing banks.

Is it really a surprise, knowing the bias, and knowing the outcome (reemergence of islamaphobea and justification for more hate and violence against domestic and foreign muslims), that muslims will even wish it was a conspiracy?