Blood clots

[ecco]

I take vitamins

Of course, you do.

Dangers of Vitamins and Supplements - Consumer Reports

1. Supplements are not risk-free
More than 6,300 reports of serious adverse events associated with dietary supplements, including vitamins and herbs, streamed into the FDA from supplement companies, consumers, health-care providers, and others between 2007 and mid-April of 2012. The reports by themselves don’t prove the supplements caused the problems, but the raw numbers are cause for some concern. Symptoms included signs of heart, kidney, or liver problems, aches, allergic reactions, fatigue, nausea, pains, and vomiting.

The reports described more than 10,300 serious outcomes (some included more than one), including 115 deaths and more than 2,100 hospitalizations, 1,000 serious injuries or illnesses, 900 emergency-room visits, and some 4,000 other important medical events.​

Everyone knows that vitamins are effective, safe, and regulated.

 

[ecco]

People you need to keep in mind the US was helping fund that lab it Wuhan with several $millions and there were also American scientists working there.

Do you have any evidence to support your assertion, other than Facebook posts?

 

[ecco]

I had it last year. I had flu symptoms for about 5 days and that was it. Been fine every since.

Same here.

About 30% of people that had it and survived are experiencing long term effects. Even people who had mild cases have strong aftereffects.

There are new studies that suggest that some live virus cells remain in the body even after the patient is "over it". These studies also indicate that taking the vaccine eliminates the lingering viruses and greatly relieves the symptoms.

 

[Subduction Zone]

"So far".

69,000 Americans died since January 30th, 2021. On January 15th all of these people could have said "Well, so far I've been fine".

So far in April, 2021 5,000 Americans died from Covid.
So far in April 2010, 0 Americans died from the vaccines.

I really would like to hear some rational reasons for not getting vaccinated.

It makes my arm hurt?

 

[Subduction Zone]

About 30% of people that had it and survived are experiencing long term effects. Even people who had mild cases have strong aftereffects.

There are new studies that suggest that some live virus cells remain in the body even after the patient is "over it". These studies also indicate that taking the vaccine eliminates the lingering viruses and greatly relieves the symptoms.

Which is why, even though my arm may hurt, that I am going to get vaccinated.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

"So far".

69,000 Americans died since January 30th, 2021. On January 15th all of these people could have said "Well, so far I've been fine".

So far in April, 2021 5,000 Americans died from Covid.
So far in April 2010, 0 Americans died from the vaccines.

I really would like to hear some rational reasons for not getting vaccinated.

That's one reason but not the primary one.

I don't judge the state of my health and treatment based on how many people died from it.
I'd hope my doctor would not either.

There are people who died of COVID after taking the vaccine. There are also those who had symptoms of COVID after they took it. The risk of having these consequences are rare (they say), but not 0 percent just because 11 years ago, they only knew of 0 at the time of calculation.

But, I was surprised I found that actually. It's not the primary reason I wouldn't take the vaccine. All health treatments have risks.

 

[We Never Know]

Do you have any evidence to support your assertion, other than Facebook posts?

Yeah its called google. If I can google it so can you.

 

[Kenny]

At the behest of Democrats.

Yes, I actually heard that'n.
Cuz ya know that such sneaky pandemics don't arise naturally.

EXACTLY!! However, playing around with it can be risky.

 

[Kenny]

You mentioned side effects from a facebook comment. You failed to mention side effects from being unvaccinated. That's why I posted the other side of the picture.

The OP was about vaccination and not about the unvaccinated. But I'm sure your information was good and correct.

Apparently more people per age group die from overdose on drugs than Covid.

Covid deaths are heading down but apparently overdoses are heading up.

 

[ecco]

Which is why, even though my arm may hurt, that I am going to get vaccinated.

Some of the people who will not get vaccinated have a lot of tattoos. They are OK with the pain of being stuck thousands of times with an ink-laden needle.

Ya gotta love the hypocrisy.

 

[ecco]

I really would like to hear some rational reasons for not getting vaccinated.

That's one reason but not the primary one.

I don't judge the state of my health and treatment based on how many people died from it.
I'd hope my doctor would not either.

There are people who died of COVID after taking the vaccine. There are also those who had symptoms of COVID after they took it. The risk of having these consequences are rare (they say), but not 0 percent just because 11 years ago, they only knew of 0 at the time of calculation.

But, I was surprised I found that actually. It's not the primary reason I wouldn't take the vaccine. All health treatments have risks.

Uh huh. And a big yadda, yadda, yadda.

I really would like to hear some rational reasons for not getting vaccinated. I'm still waiting. It should not be hard to articulate.

 

[ecco]

Do you have any evidence to support your assertion, other than Facebook posts?

Yeah its called google. If I can google it so can you.

You've been on this forum for two years. You know how it works. It is the responsibility of the person making a claim to justify it. It is not the responsibility of any reader to justify someone else's nonsense.

Do you have any evidence to support your assertion, other than Facebook posts?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Uh huh. And a big yadda, yadda, yadda.

I really would like to hear some rational reasons for not getting vaccinated. I'm still waiting. It should not be hard to articulate.

I would if you cut the sarcasm. I don't mind talking if my opinions weren't devalued.

 

[We Never Know]

You've been on this forum for two years. You know how it works. It is the responsibility of the person making a claim to justify it. It is not the responsibility of any reader to justify someone else's nonsense.

Do you have any evidence to support your assertion, other than Facebook posts?

Why The U.S. Government Stopped Funding A Research Project On Bats And Coronaviruses

And....
NIH Cancels Funding for Bat Coronavirus Research Project

https://www-the--scientist-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/nih-cancels-funding-for-bat-coronavirus-research-project-67486/amp?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA==#aoh=16188677667105&csi=1&referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/nih-cancels-funding-for-bat-coronavirus-research-project-67486

 

[We Never Know]

You've been on this forum for two years. You know how it works. It is the responsibility of the person making a claim to justify it. It is not the responsibility of any reader to justify someone else's nonsense.

Do you have any evidence to support your assertion, other than Facebook posts?

Want another one?

Coronavirus researcher shut down for Wuhan-lab links vents frustrations

 

[ecco]

The OP was about vaccination and not about the unvaccinated.

Actually, the OP was about vaccine induced blood clots causing deaths. Therefore, comments and information about deaths from being unvaccinated are relevant.

Information about blood clots is also relevant.

Google

Blood Clots Can Be Deadly
As many as 100,000 people die of blood clots each year.​

Apparently more people per age group die from overdose on drugs than Covid.

Covid deaths are heading down but apparently overdoses are heading up.

Comments about deaths from drug overdoses are not relevant. Do try to stay on topic.

 

[We Never Know]

You've been on this forum for two years. You know how it works. It is the responsibility of the person making a claim to justify it. It is not the responsibility of any reader to justify someone else's nonsense.

Do you have any evidence to support your assertion, other than Facebook posts?

How about another...

Wuhan lab at heart of COVID outbreak may get three more years of US funding

https://nypost-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/nypost.com/2021/02/21/wuhan-lab-at-heart-of-covid-outbreak-may-get-more-us-funding/amp/?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA==#aoh=16188681695346&csi=1&referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://nypost.com/2021/02/21/wuhan-lab-at-heart-of-covid-outbreak-may-get-more-us-funding/

 

[ecco]

I would if you cut the sarcasm. I don't mind talking if my opinions weren't devalued.

There was no sarcasm in the first time I asked. I only threw in a little sarcasm when you ducked the question.

As to whether or not your opinions will be devalued, that remains to be seen.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Actually, the OP was about vaccine induced blood clots causing deaths. Therefore, comments and information about deaths from being unvaccinated are relevant.

Information about blood clots is also relevant.

Google

Blood Clots Can Be Deadly
As many as 100,000 people die of blood clots each year.​

Comments about deaths from drug overdoses are not relevant. Do try to stay on topic.

Ecco. It has nothing to do with the unvaccinated. You guys brought up that. It was info of Johnson and Johnson vaccination warning that (correction) 6 out of 6 million died from it, allergies and blood clots. That, and how my friend when she took a vaccine, she's the one who told me about it and I looked it up.

You guys can gang up on unvaccinated people all you guys want, but the "fact" is, just be careful which ones you guys choose to pick. Not taking it doesn't mean not concerned. My friend, I've known her 13 years, respects my decision and I respect and support hers.

Only strangers tend to have a problem with my choice and "they" don't even know me.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

There was no sarcasm in the first time I asked. I only threw in a little sarcasm when you ducked the question.

As to whether or not your opinions will be devalued, that remains to be seen.

I answered your question. I said that was a reason but not the primary reason.

Whether you agree with this fact or not is on you, but I did answer the question. Did you have follow ups without the sarcasms? (Sarcasm doesn't run well on me nor does jokes online. It's a red flag in heated conversations)