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Bible scripture

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by erikag, Aug 1, 2021.

  1. erikag

    erikag New Member

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    The bible says that the only time when killing can be justified is in times of war, capital punishment, and self defense. When the cia tried to assassinate castro in the early 60s, where would this fall under? Can a religious expert please shed some light here.....??
     
  2. Snow White

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    While it might fall under war, I'm not sure... I think it's worth noting that when I was a Christian, I understood war killing as only being ethical in cases where the people doing the killing were on the side of God. Since I don't believe God talks to us quite as clearly as he did some men in OT times, I'm just not sure how that really works, today. And tend to think it just doesn't work at all.
     
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  3. Jayhawker Soule

    Jayhawker Soule <yawn> ignore </yawn>
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    It will be interesting to see who designates himself or herself a "religious expert."
     
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  4. Snow White

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    Apparently me and you, since we both posted.
     
  5. Dan From Smithville

    Dan From Smithville Veteran Member
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    Would protecting the interests of a country fall under self defense?
     
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    "Christianity has changed its perspective on the death penalty over time and different Christian denominations have different teachings on it. Many early Christians were strongly opposed to the death penalty and magistrates who enforced it could be excommunicated. Attitudes gradually began to relax in the fifth century. In the thirteenth century, Thomas Aquinas argued that capital punishment was a form of "lawful slaying", which became the standard Catholic teaching on the issue for centuries. During the Protestant Reformation, Martin Luther and John Calvin defended the death penalty, but Quakers, Brethren, and Mennonites have opposed it since their founding. Since the Second Vatican Council, the Roman Catholic Church has generally opposed the death penalty and, in August 2018, Pope Francis revised the Catechism of the Catholic Church to explicitly condemn it in all cases, as an inadmissible attack on the inviolability and dignity of the person." (Religion and capital punishment)
     
  7. lukethethird

    lukethethird Well-Known Member

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    I might not be a religious expert but I am an expert and a master debater.
     
  8. Harel13

    Harel13 Am Yisrael Chai
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    I recommend CYLOR. :cool:
     
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    I think there was no good reason for it and it was probably just because they didn’t like him and what he represented. But, maybe, if they would have wanted to give a nice excuse they would have said it was self-defense. :)
     
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    What about pre-emptive strikes like the six day war?
     
  11. Harel13

    Harel13 Am Yisrael Chai
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    Sounds like a combination of war and self-defense.
     
  12. Justanatheist

    Justanatheist Well-Known Member

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    As my rugby coach always used to say to me, "get your retaliation in first";)
     
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