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Belief System

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Why are some organized belief systems rooted in another belief system but they can't see that the branches are all rooted in One Tree, Tree of Life, the Axis Mundi?


Malchi 2:10
Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?



Matthew 6:9
After this manner therefore pray you: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy Name.
 
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idav

Being
Premium Member
Why are some organized belief systems rooted in another belief system but they can't see that the branches are all rooted in One Tree, Tree of Life, the Axis Mundi?
Belief systems are logically consistent within their own framework and often times have foundational faith based differences from other systems.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Jesus was only addressing His followers. He explicitly told others , that their father was a different entity etc.
John 8:44


there are two ways yes. the selfish way and the HIGH WAY, or God Most High. the selfish way must eventually merge with the High Way; if it wants to get to where everyone is going.
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
there are two ways yes. the selfish way and the HIGH WAY, or God Most High. the selfish way must eventually merge with the High Way; if it wants to get to where everyone is going.

You are misinterpreting Scripture. Your 'ideas' concerning Scripture, actually contradict it, as we now observe. Hence, why are you using Scripture? Why not use some other Scripture? Or no Scripture? It seems that you know Scripture well enough and simply don't care. ie only using references to promote some other ideas/religion
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Jesus was not teaching the selfish way, you are misinterpreting Scripture. Your 'ideas' concerning Scripture, actually contradict it, as we now observe. Hence, why are you using Scripture? Why not use some other Scripture? Or no Scripture? It seems that you know Scripture well enough and simply don't care. ie only using references to promote some other ideas/religion




the kingdom of hell comes from within you too. you get to choose, be as wise as serpents and as innocent as doves. don't be like the pharisees who have hidden the [key to knowledge] = love of self vs love of all as self


Matthew 6:23
But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Belief systems are logically consistent within their own framework and often times have foundational faith based differences from other systems.


things age out and eventually the idea gets lost in epeolatry, idolatry, elitism, doctrine, ritual, authoritarianism, codependency
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
jesus wasn't a christian. jesus was a gnostic jew, naassene.


You aren't familiar with Nazarene ideas, it's obvious. Your ''version'' of ''gnosticism'', has nothing to do with Christianity, which is the religion /from the Jesus adherence, broadly. That is why the Bible contradicts your every theory and idea. You're practicing a different religion; it has nothing to do with Jesus, Nazarenes, or Jews.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
You aren't familiar with Nazarene ideas, it's obvious. Your ''version'' of ''gnosticism'', has nothing to do with Christianity, which is the religion /from the Jesus adherence, broadly. That is why the Bible contradicts your every theory and idea. You're practicing a different religion; it has nothing to do with Jesus, Nazarenes, or Jews.

"There is no doubt that a Jewish gnosticism existed before a Christian or a Judæo-Christian gnosticism. As may be seen even in the apocalypses, since the second century B.C. gnostic thought was bound up with Judaism, which had accepted Babylonian and Syrian doctrines; but the relation of this Jewish gnosticism to Christian gnosticism may, perhaps, no longer be explained "(Harnack," "Geschichte der Altchristlichen Litteratur," p. 144).


GNOSTICISM - JewishEncyclopedia.com
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Why are some organized belief systems rooted in another belief system but they can't see that the branches are all rooted in One Tree, Tree of Life, the Axis Mundi?
Two possibilities come to mind:

- accepting (parts of) one other belief system doesn't mean a person has to accept all belief systems.

- your beliefs aren't as obvious as you apparently think they are.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
there are two ways yes. the selfish way and the HIGH WAY, or God Most High. the selfish way must eventually merge with the High Way; if it wants to get to where everyone is going.
And of course your way is the one that's they way of the "God Most High," right? ;)
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
no it's naassene
Two possibilities come to mind:

- accepting (parts of) one other belief system doesn't mean a person has to accept all belief systems.

- your beliefs aren't as obvious as you apparently think they are.

one cannot totally relate to another culture because belief systems are based on environment and that is why they are called a cult. one cultivates his belief system from her experiences. but love pervades all nations




5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. 6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. 7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. 8 And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

I have seen the face of God. gnōthi seauton

Eden Restored

22 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. 2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. 3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him: 4 And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

you are a reflection of God, I AM that i am. a mirror of Self.
 
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Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
And of course your way is the one that's they way of the "God Most High," right? ;)

i'm not trying to convert followers to an organized religion because love pervades all righteous behavior and everyone has the power to love.

self-actualization isn't unique to a person, belief-system, country, et al.

Love Most High is loving one's reflection in another, Narcissus. I AM that i am
 

Brickjectivity

wind and rain touch not this brain
Staff member
Premium Member
Astronomy of the Sun, Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars...through Jupiter plus the History of how they have been thought of by most religions is enough to cast doubt on 'Systems of belief'. It doesn't take a lot to find out that people in the past had a lot of faith in particularly incorrect viewpoints that were later proven wrong long after they had spent their lives and countless hours investing in that viewpoint.
 
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