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Before Creation

Fool

ALL in all
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If one believes in something before creation, does one return to that otherness after ceasing to exist?
 

stvdv

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we don't cease to exist. we reincarnate.

We don't even exist. It's all 1 big illusion. Superimposition on Consciousness.
[stvdv illusion will cease to exist on RF now; returning in 30 days;)]
 
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Faithofchristian

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If one believes in something before creation, does one return to that otherness after ceasing to exist?

Well Well seeing there was a world before this world that we live in.
So yes there was a world before the creation of this world came to be.
The world that then was, Was the world of the dinosaurs. Before the creation of this world came to be.

Unless you believe that the dinosaurs bones were just floating around in space and then one day, the dinosaurs bones fell down here on earth and covered themselves over with dirt, Waiting for the day someone dig them up.

The dinosaurs bones are God's witnesses of that world before the creation of this world came to be.
 

Fool

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Well Well seeing there was a world before this world that we live in.
So yes there was a world before the creation of this world came to be.
The world that then was, Was the world of the dinosaurs. Before the creation of this world came to be.

Unless you believe that the dinosaurs bones were just floating around in space and then one day, the dinosaurs bones fell down here on earth and covered themselves over with dirt, Waiting for the day someone dig them up.

The dinosaurs bones are God's witnesses of that world before the creation of this world came to be.
i'm referring to the potential of that before the big bang vs the actual results of the big bang.

brahman asleep vs brahman awake.
 

Faithofchristian

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i'm referring to the potential of that before the big bang vs the actual results of the big bang.

brahman asleep vs brahman awake.


Let's see, if to what your saying in and about the big bang theory, so if I laid a bunch of goop out, after a mount of time, it should come alive, According to the big bang theory that's how everything came to be.
ok, what ever.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Let's see, if to what your saying in and about the big bang theory, so if I laid a bunch of goop out, after a mount of time, it should come alive, According to the big bang theory that's how everything came to be.
ok, what ever.
god moved and creation came to be. spirit moving on water. no matter what you call it, was it conscious?
 

Faithofchristian

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god moved and creation came to be. spirit moving on water. no matter what you call it, was it conscious?

Ok now can you explain why water was covering the earth. What happened that caused water to cover the whole earth.
And this was before creation came to be
 

Fool

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Ok now can you explain why water was covering the earth. What happened that caused water to cover the whole earth.
And this was before creation came to be
in the beginning there was no earth, it states water. from the movement of spirit on water earth came to be
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
You really can't be Serious, So what do you suppose was under neath the water, but the earth.
it says the earth was without form. that means it hadn't been created, formed.

three things existed before heaven and earth. god, spirit, and water. so basically there is a mind, there is a body, and there is a force. this is the same three things that make up a viable human.
 

Valjean

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undifferentiated oneness. creation broke the symmetry and created duality.
OK, so before time was what Hindu's would call Nirguna Brahman; undifferentiated, qualityless existence (but without the quality of being extant). Time and existance began with the Big Bang and there was no "before."


Let's see, if to what your saying in and about the big bang theory, so if I laid a bunch of goop out, after a mount of time, it should come alive, According to the big bang theory that's how everything came to be.
ok, what ever.
??????????????
Where'd you come up with that? Nobody's ever proposed anything of the sort.
 

Faithofchristian

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it says the earth was without form. that means it hadn't been created, formed.

three things existed before heaven and earth. god, spirit, and water. so basically there is a mind, there is a body, and there is a force. this is the same three things that make up a viable human.


Look fool, Maybe you should go to the Greek translation for the word ( was )
Which being translated means ( became )

Therefore the earth became without form.
So what happened that the earth became without form.

One thing existed before the creation of this world came to be.
Which is the world of the dinosaurs which existed way before the creation of this world came to be.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Look fool, Maybe you should go to the Greek translation for the word ( was )
Which being translated means ( became )

Therefore the earth became without form.
So what happened that the earth became without form.

One thing existed before the creation of this world came to be.
Which is the world of the dinosaurs which existed way before the creation of this world came to be.

the torah was written in hebrew

Berei**** - Genesis - Chapter 1 (Parshah Berei****)
 

Faithofchristian

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OK, so before time was what Hindu's would call Nirguna Brahman; undifferentiated, qualityless existence (but without the quality of being extant). Time and existance began with the Big Bang and there was no "before."


??????????????
Where'd you come up with that? Nobody's ever proposed anything of the sort.

Well let's see, the big bang theory, says everything started from nothingness.
So if someone took goop and laid it out, according to big bang theory it should come alive.
 
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