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Featured Argumentum ad populum

Discussion in 'Science and Religion' started by nPeace, Aug 14, 2019 at 10:26 AM.

  1. blü 2

    blü 2 Well-Known Member
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    Your argument suffers from a major deficiency which I invite you to remedy.

    What definition of 'truth' are you using here? What test will tell us whether a statement is true or not, do you say?

    (My own definition is that a statement is true to the extent that it corresponds with / conforms to / accurately reflects objective reality. You obviously disagree, so what do you say instead?)
     
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  2. Dan From Smithville

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    Because of a passionate love of irony?
     
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    Dan From Smithville Well-Known Member
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    Mine is only short of that by a few points. Is that close enough?
     
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    Dan From Smithville Well-Known Member
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    I once met a man that claimed to have developed a cure for cancer in his garage. I am not sure what it was. Some sort of black salve with who knows what in it. He was very serious, but he was not letting that secret out. I just let it go. It wasn't worth bothering to explain anything.
     
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    Sapiens Polymathematician

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    If your brothers and friends are any good at science and they have no corrected you then then they are dishonest ... take your pick, incompetent or disingenuous.

    Yes ... I disagree with Crichton (who is no scientist) on many subjects including: astral projection, aura viewing, and clairvoyance.
     
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  6. Willamena

    Willamena Just me
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    It's just a generalization, not a fallacy.
     
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    Some "sciences" have added "peer review" to the scientific method. This is especially prevalent in "sciences" that never did much experimentation anyway.

    What observable change in life is not sudden? What experiment has shown a gradual change?

    That species change is beyond dispute. The causes and rapidity of the change is what is in dispute.

    GIGO. You can't program the future. You can't program what you can't understand. You can't program all the butterflies in China.
     
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    Thief Rogue Theologian

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    that should have been BITTER almonds
    alias
    apricot seeds

    and they are bitter

    I don't have the vhs tape anymore
    but the vitamin b17 was part of the American diet in the form of millet bread

    not any more
     
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    robocop (actually) Well-Known Member
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    Right, I was referring to areas where your IQ is that high.
     
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    robocop (actually) Well-Known Member
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    Usually.
     
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    Remember that time I posted a bunch of molecular phylogenetics studies, and when you tried to rebut them, you made a complete fool of yourself?

    I do. You thought you had made some serious points, but I handily demolished them, then you scampered off and put me on ignore - such is the intellectual power of the self-righteous, yet fragile, creationist ranter.
    The Miracle of Water.
    The Miracle of Water.
     
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    With you science superiority and all, I am shocked that you do not seem to understand anything about 'B 17'...

    It is......?
     
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    LTCM thought they could predict the future;

    [​IMG]

    There is no equation nor group of equations that can be used to make predictions about chaotic systems. "Global warming" is chiefly a snake oil product and an opportunity to use politics for personal gain. It is a bill of goods sold to the gullible and in an era of Look and see Science even most scientists are gullible.

    The irony here is that all systems are chaotic but our perspective is too narrow to see even this.
     
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    Isn't that exactly what your god does?
     
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    Obviously, you do not understand what IQ stands for nor how it is determined.
     
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    Thanks for the correction. It's been a while.
     
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    Was there a point to this word salad?

    We can see gradual changes in ring species, we can see gradual changes in certain sedimentary deposits.
     
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    don't let me keep you from standing on your pedestal

    by all means …….go for it
     
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    I saw that episode. It is one of my favorites.
     
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    ...And I consider myself a metaphysician!!

    Name one.

    How do you model the effects on the tides caused by a butterfly in a distant galaxy or the one that flaps its wings in China?

    How do you model chaos?

    Excellent question. It is caused by the fact that very few people and very few climatologists understand metaphysics or the meaning of what they know.

    I am aware of no facts that must be interpreted to mean that species change gradually. Or at the least that it is the accumulation of such minor changes that account for much of the observed change in species.

    How can we deny something that isn't understood? Until there is understanding of gravity there is NOTHING to deny.
     
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