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Are the Nazi's right-wing?

NuGnostic

Member
I'm embroiled in an arguement on another website-site with some fundermenalist christians,I just need to know I'm right,I'm sure the Nazi-party are extreme right-wing amd despite the National-socialist name are defintely not socialist,am I right?
Some of my "adversaries" seem to believe the Nazi's are commies to me this is absurd.:banghead3
I just need the opinion of sane ppl
 

SoyLeche

meh...
From what I remember from my Comparative Government class in High School, Comunists are at the far left of the "political spectrum" and fascists are at the far right. Nazi's are fascist, so I'd say you are right. I am by no means an expert though.
 

jewscout

Religious Zionist
National Socialism is not the same as Socialists or Communists
this movement is def. part of the far right.
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
NuGnostic said:
I'm embroiled in an arguement on another website-site with some fundermenalist christians,I just need to know I'm right,I'm sure the Nazi-party are extreme right-wing amd despite the National-socialist name are defintely not socialist,am I right?
Some of my "adversaries" seem to believe the Nazi's are commies to me this is absurd.:banghead3
I just need the opinion of sane ppl
Nazis are most definitely not communists.
From Wikipedia:- There is a very close relationship between Nazism and Fascism. Since the term Nazism is normally used to refer to the ideology and policies of Nazi Germany alone, while Fascism is used in a broader sense, to refer to a wider political movement that exists or existed in many countries, Nazism is often classified as a particular version of Fascism;)
 

CaptainXeroid

Following Christ
Fallen Goddess said:
Right or left, history proves that those who hate are of the wrong wing.
'nuff said..Frubals to you when I can give them out again.:p

I think this question explains why many people prefer to view politics as a continuum rather than a spectrum. The 'commies', or Russian Socialists advocated state control and mangement of the means of production, while the German Nazis allowed private ownership but with state-dictated oversight and direction. Not the same, but I wouldn't call them polar opposites.
 

Nehustan

Well-Known Member
The NSDAP was originally a supsected left wing party that Hitler was recruited to spy on by Army Intelligence. It was National Socialism as opposed to the International Socialism resulting from the writings of Marx. It however maintained an ethic of socialism, albeit for the pure German, until a decision was made to ally with with German Capitalists over the workers. This split was ultimately decided when the SS eliminated leading elements ot the Brown Shirts or SA in the Night of the Long Knives. At this point any associations to the left, however tenuous were severed.
 

Yerda

Veteran Member
standing_on_one_foot said:
Yup. Theoretically, anyway, fascism and communism are on opposite ends of the political spectrum. In practice now, not so much.
In practice every socialist I know is vehemently anti-fascist.
 

Quiddity

UndertheInfluenceofGiants
I am of the opinion that Germany was both fascist and socialist. The voters were aware of the Nazi ideology. They were an educated, industrialized, civilized Western European nation. Nazi literature had been written for years and the people were aware of it. Books like the Mein Kampf had been out and people bought them and read them. Collectivism was in the midst of Germany and I don’t think it was all Hilter. Granted that I’m sure the people were not aware of all the details but they knew about the war and other details. The face of fascism was further developed by Hitler's mentor, Mussolini.

 

Fluffy

A fool
In my humble opinion, the Nazi's were right wing but nowhere near as far right as, say, Labour or the Democrats. The left-right scale is a measure of economic policies and the Nazi party demonstrated quite a nice balance although it was still right leaning.

The confusion comes from two areas. Firstly people see the socialist part of their name and jump to conclusions. Secondly, people mistakenly associate authortarianism with right wing government. This is clearly not the case, however, and if anyone is in any doubt about this then please refer to Communist Russia.

As far as I am concerned, the Nazi's were centrist in their economic policies. They were only radical in their social ones.
 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
Fallen Goddess said:
Right or left, history proves that those who hate are of the wrong wing.
More Frubals on your head!

As for Nazis being right or left, they are neither. Right/left have more to do with socio-economics and little to do with racial supremacy. Hate is wrong no matter which part of the ailse you may be on!
 

MdmSzdWhtGuy

Well-Known Member
Most people think of a political continuum like this:

Left--(Communists)---(Democrats)----------(Centrists/Moderates)---(Republicans)---------(Nazi's)----Right


While in actuality the political continuum is more like a circle than a straight line. Unfortunately I don't know how to draw a circle on here, but imagine the same groups listed above spread out over a large circle.

At the top of the circle you have the centrists, as you move to the left edge of the circle you have Democrats, at the right edge of the circle you have Republicans. As you continue on farther left, your path leads you to the bottom of the circle, where you find the communists. As you travel farther right down the path of the circle you find the Nazi's.

Along the top half of the circle, somewhere more to the right or left depending upon the individual, you will find the vast majority of normal thinking people. At the extreme left and right edges you will have the Ted Kennedy's of the world on the Left and the George Bush's of the world on the Right. Most everybody that anyone here knows personally is going to be on the top half of the circle.

But, if you go far enough to the left or the right, you will actually come around to the bottom of the circular political continuum, the place that my Grandmother termed the "Kook area". Basically, when you are living under the thumb of a Left Wing Kook, you are living in just about the same conditions you would be, if you were living under the thumb of a Right Wing Kook. In her words, whether its Stalin or Hitler, a Kook is a Kook.

B.
 

NuGnostic

Member
I just thought i'd add that to a european the democrats aren't very left-wing at all in fact we'd call them centre-right in europe
 
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