Brick homes aren't fireproof.
Sure, bricks won't burn, but the wood
frame, furniture, floor, & carpeting will.
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Are the governments responsible for manslaughter of the homeless ?
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Sure, bricks won't burn, but the wood
frame, furniture, floor, & carpeting will.
Yes , it is often the roof and furnishings that go up in flames . The furnishings often giving off toxic fumes . The ''trick'' for a homeless cabin site would be to just make sure that the residents had no lighters or matches in their cabins . We'd have means to light a smoke at the communal smoking area . Perhaps in the form of a hob with an ignition or something similar that wouldn't be easy to move without being noticed .
I'm sure a tiny home or shed can be as safe as a conventional house.
Safe as = Good enuf
It is actually safer because if a shed collapses , it is pretty unlikely to kill anyone because they have a low mass compared to a building structure .
Smoke inhalation is the biggest killer in fires.
Yes indeed, that is why fire fighters who go into burning buildings to rescue somebody , need a breathing apparatus ! They are so brave and need a big pay bonus .
rocala
Well-Known Member
Some excellent ideas here @jes-us us. One issue that does worry me though has not yet been addressed. I know that in Central London, and Bath to name another, in places, where the homeless gather, there is often a vicious parasitical element among them. This, I fear, could be difficult to combat in communities.
rocala
Well-Known Member
A little too simplistic really. It is the Crown Prosecution Service that would have to be won over.
"The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) prosecutes criminal cases that have been investigated by the police and other investigative organisations in England and Wales. The CPS is independent, and we make our decisions independently of the police and government.
Our duty is to make sure that the right person is prosecuted for the right offence, and to bring offenders to justice wherever possible."
The CPS:
- decides which cases should be prosecuted;
- determines the appropriate charges in more serious or complex cases, and advises the police during the early stages of investigations;
- prepares cases and presents them at court; and
- provides information, assistance and support to victims and prosecution witnesses.
The crown prosecution service sounds like it shouldn't have any jurisdiction in the UK because it should be G.P.S , government prosecution service . The Royal family claim they have no business in politics yet they seem to have labels on everything , including public police officers . The crown consists of the Church of England and the Royal Family , King Charles being the boss .A little too simplistic really. It is the Crown Prosecution Service that would have to be won over.
"The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) prosecutes criminal cases that have been investigated by the police and other investigative organisations in England and Wales. The CPS is independent, and we make our decisions independently of the police and government.
Our duty is to make sure that the right person is prosecuted for the right offence, and to bring offenders to justice wherever possible."
The CPS:
- decides which cases should be prosecuted;
- determines the appropriate charges in more serious or complex cases, and advises the police during the early stages of investigations;
- prepares cases and presents them at court; and
- provides information, assistance and support to victims and prosecution witnesses.
Luckily in England trial by jury consists of members of the public and they can be influenced in making not guilty verdicts by the defence . Magistrates aren't even qualified to judge or is any sort of trial .
rocala
Well-Known Member
The crown is also the 3rd level of parliament - it ain't law until "the boss" signs it. Members of the armed forces swear an oath of allegiance to the monarch, not the government.
More than a million people died who had homes during the same period. Is the government responsible for their deaths too?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Aka bought and paid for politicians who create rules in favor of business and not in favor of the people..
The evidence speaks for itself in the profits of the 1%ers who own almost all the money in this, and other countries as well as the governments themselves.
Just 1% belongs to the common people and 99% is hoarded by the nobility.
Oxfam says wealth of richest 1% equal to other 99%
The richest 1% now has as much wealth as the rest of the world combined, according to Oxfam.
www.bbc.com
Orbit
I'm a planet
You know, I actually think we shouldn't displace the blame onto a faceless institution. It's us. We are the murderers as long as we do nothing about it.
Can you give an example of nobility actually hoarding wealth in today's economy?
Hardly even that.
Fires I've seen spread by carpeting, furnishings,
& wooden framing. Brick homes are typically
just brick veneer anyway.
To be fire resistant....
- Up to date electrical system.
- Appliances in good repair.
- Tight gas lines of appropriate materials.
- Don't cover electrical cords with insulating materials.
- Have proper fire extinguishers.
We Never Know
No Slack
People don't give it much thought but today's wood burns a lot quicker than wood 100 years ago.
"Old-growth wood has nearly ten times the number of growth rings per inch (meaning that it is much denser) and is more resistant to decay or damage"
WOOD
The difference between old growth wood and new growth wood and the products they make is like the difference between granite and paper.
hullworks.com
By that standard you and I and everyone else are equally responsible. Be the light in your corner of the universe.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Yep. Starting with Reganomics in 2014....
5 Reasons the Rich Are Ruining the Economy by Hoarding Their Money
Why supply-side economics just doesn't work.
www.alternet.org
2019
An Overlooked Recession Warning: Rich People Are Hoarding Cash
Moody's: If rich pull back spending further, "it will be a significant threat to the economic expansion."
moneyandmarkets.com
2023
Billionaires are hoarding piles of cash (2024)
watch nowVIDEO2:4302:43Why are the super-rich cautious about investing?Street Signs Asia Billionaires are holding mountains of cash, offering the latest sign that the ultra-wealthy are nervous about putting more money into today's markets. According to the new Billionaire Census from Wealth-X...
Hoarding never changes.
The problem with your links is that they have titles like “billionaires hoarding piles of cash”, but when you read the article, they don’t mention a single billionaire who is actually doing this. In the real world, the super rich have very little cash; what they have is assets. Why on earth would a billionaire want to have a bunch of cash getting eaten up by inflation? What these people have are assets that are invested in various enterprises. However; let’s say just for the a billionaire were foolish enough to cash out his investments and convert it to cash, and put it in a vault; how does that prevent YOU or anybody else from getting cash? Do you really think this would cause you to get paid less at your job? No! So again; can you give an example of a billionaire hoarding wealth?Yep. Starting with Reganomics in 2014....
5 Reasons the Rich Are Ruining the Economy by Hoarding Their Money
Why supply-side economics just doesn't work.
2019
An Overlooked Recession Warning: Rich People Are Hoarding Cash
Moody's: If rich pull back spending further, "it will be a significant threat to the economic expansion."
2023
Billionaires are hoarding piles of cash (2024)
watch nowVIDEO2:4302:43Why are the super-rich cautious about investing?Street Signs Asia Billionaires are holding mountains of cash, offering the latest sign that the ultra-wealthy are nervous about putting more money into today's markets. According to the new Billionaire Census from Wealth-X...investguiding.com
Hoarding never changes.