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Are most Satanists familiar with Ayn Rand?
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Ya learn something new everyday.
Thanks Octavia. I don't label myself as a LaVeyan Satanist but I am a social liberal and also a staunch capitalist.
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Octavia156
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Barrackubus
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I remember years ago, when I was way younger than I am now I seem to think remembering a work from her called Atlas Shrugged....is this her?
Octavia156
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Yes that's her
Here is a sniplet from Ayn Rand's book, Atlas Shrugged. It is part of a speech made by the character John Galt.
I never thought someone could make honesty sound so boring. Evidently, I was wrong.
For me as a Satanist I would say that Ayn Rand is irrelevant, and the bits LaVey borrowed (there is some OBVIOUS rewording if you compare the two works) are too. I think Machiavelli was far more relevant than either of them as the focus is not what you think about your perceived universe but what you are doing with it! The more aggressive concepts LaVey just borrowed from Ragnar Redbeard's _Might is Right_ which basically was the inspiration for hedonism, social Darwinism, and more. I would say that these two books together entail 90% of what is _The Satanic Bible_ the rest of it were some basic Satanic Watchtower rituals (merely copied, re-symbolized, and stolen from other hermetic magic groups after a few verse changes), bastardized Enochian keys (the originals use all sorts of Christian symbols), and similar. Very little of _TSB_ actually seems to be LaVey's work taken in context, but I'll give him credit for bundling and marketing it out. Ayn Rand was about as dull as a box of rocks, and Ragner was a pseudonym for someone no one knew.
You can read some more about it here:
Hypocrisy, Plagiarism and LaVey By John Smith, 2001
Admittedly, this was written by a Baptist preacher doing research on real Satanism but the information applies.
_Might is Right_ is public domain at this point, so you can find it here.
The more aggressive concepts LaVey just borrowed from Ragnar Redbeard's _Might is Right_ which basically was the inspiration for hedonism, social Darwinism, and more. I would say that these two books together entail 90% of what is _The Satanic Bible_ the rest of it were some basic Satanic Watchtower rituals (merely copied, re-symbolized, and stolen from other hermetic magic groups after a few verse changes), bastardized Enochian keys (the originals use all sorts of Christian symbols), and similar. Very little of _TSB_ actually seems to be LaVey's work taken in context, but I'll give him credit for bundling and marketing it out. Ayn Rand was about as dull as a box of rocks, and Ragner was a pseudonym for someone no one knew.You can read some more about it here:
Hypocrisy, Plagiarism and LaVey By John Smith, 2001
Admittedly, this was written by a Baptist preacher doing research on real Satanism but the information applies.
_Might is Right_ is public domain at this point, so you can find it here.
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jasonwill2
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For me as a Satanist I would say that Ayn Rand is irrelevant, and the bits LaVey borrowed (there is some OBVIOUS rewording if you compare the two works) are too. I think Machiavelli was far more relevant than either of them as the focus is not what you think about your perceived universe but what you are doing with it!
You can read some more about it here:
Hypocrisy, Plagiarism and LaVey By John Smith, 2001
Admittedly, this was written by a Baptist preacher doing research on real Satanism but the information applies.
_Might is Right_ is public domain at this point, so you can find it here.
Awesome link dude I need to read Might is Right later. As well I can see things I recognize word for word in teh Book of Satan in the STB >.>