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When a Witness (baptised member) leaves the organisation does the governing body advice not to speak to that person at all(including family and friends who are in the organisation), or just limit how much time you spend with them?
(Genuine question)
IN THE IMMEDIATE FAMILY CIRCLE
9 A person might become a Christian without others in that ones family circle accepting the faith. For instance, a wife might be serving Jehovah, but her husband not. Despite that, she is still one flesh with her husband and is obliged to love and respect him. (Gen. 2:24; 1 Pet. 3:1-6) Or she might be married to a man who was a dedicated Christian but was later expelled from the congregation. Yet that would not end their marital ties; only death or a Scriptural divorce would do that.1 Cor. 7:39; Matt. 19:9.
10 Similarly, if a relative, such as a parent, son or daughter, is disfellowshiped or has disassociated himself, blood and family ties remain. Does that mean, then, that in the family circle everything remains the same when one member is disfellowshiped? Definitely not.
11 A disfellowshiped person has been spiritually cut off from the congregation; the former spiritual ties have been completely severed. This is true even with respect to his relatives, including those within his immediate family circle. Thus, family memberswhile acknowledging family tieswill no longer have any spiritual fellowship with him.1*Sam. 28:6; Prov. 15:8, 9.
12 That will mean changes in the spiritual fellowship that may have existed in the home. For example, if the husband is disfellowshiped, his wife and children will not be comfortable with him conducting a family Bible study or leading in Bible reading and prayer. If he wants to say a prayer, such as at mealtime, he has a right to do so in his own home. But they can silently offer their own prayers to God. (Prov. 28:9; Ps. 119:145, 146) What if a disfellowshiped person in the home wants to be present when the family reads the Bible together or has a Bible study? The others might let him be present to listen if he will not try to teach them or share his religious ideas.
13 If a minor child is disfellowshiped, the parents will still care for his physical needs and provide moral training and discipline. They would not conduct a Bible study directly with the child, with him participating. Yet this does not mean that he would not be required to sit in on the family study. And they might direct attention to parts of the Bible or Christian publications that contain counsel he needs. (Prov. 1:8-19; 6:20-22; 29:17; Eph. 6:4) They can have him accompany them to and sit with them at Christian meetings, hoping that he will take to heart Biblical counsel.
14 But what if a close relative, such as a son or a parent who does not live in the home, is disfellowshiped and subsequently wants to move back there? The family could decide what to do depending on the situation.
15 For example, a disfellowshiped parent may be sick or no longer able to care for himself financially or physically. The Christian children have a Scriptural and moral obligation to assist. (1 Tim. 5:8) Perhaps it seems necessary to bring the parent into the home, temporarily or permanently.
Thanks for the reply. I should have been more clear in the OP, I meant someone who leaves the organisation of their own accord (apostate) not someone who was disfellowshipped.
Thanks! Does this include if they are baptised and renounce their baptism?
that is what we call 'disassociated'
In that case, we take the 'disfellowshipped' approach because the person has disfellowshipped themselves from the congregation;....so they've basically disowned the congregation and would not likely want any fellowship with anyone anyway.
If they did want to fellowship again, they could come back and have their prior decision reversed...then the congregation would welcome them again.
Shunning is not loving. Jesus mixed with the sinners, whores and tax collectors and had meals with those. Just because someone follows his conscience and disassociates doesn't mean he no longer believes in the gospel, Jesus' blood or the Bible. He still can hold the Christian faith, does is no apostate and so must not be shunned.
Sorry your reasoning here is flawed.
I don't know...if their family and friends are in the congregation I would think they would still want to have fellowship with them :/
I have one more question (sorry for being annoying) is a disassociated person an apostate?
Shunning is not loving. Jesus mixed with the sinners, whores and tax collectors and had meals with those. Just because someone follows his conscience and disassociates doesn't mean he no longer believes in the gospel, Jesus' blood or the Bible. He still can hold the Christian faith, does is no apostate and so must not be shunned.
Sorry your reasoning here is flawed.
Thanks for the reply. But I meant I would think the disassociated person would still want to have a relationship with their family and friends in the congregation.
yes im sure they would
But what God is trying to teach them is that if they dont submit to his ways they will loose, not only their family and friends, but their life too. He doesnt want them to loose any of it... he wants them to repent and come back to him.
So what did you mean by this "so they've basically disowned the congregation and would not likely want any fellowship with anyone anyway."
Shunning is not loving. Jesus mixed with the sinners, whores and tax collectors and had meals with those. Just because someone follows his conscience and disassociates doesn't mean he no longer believes in the gospel, Jesus' blood or the Bible. He still can hold the Christian faith, does is no apostate and so must not be shunned.
Sorry your reasoning here is flawed.