Ancient and Modern Creation Stories

[Native]

But by your logic you can't judge science since you aren't an expert. In fact, from the looks of it, you aren't even a novice. But i have studied ancient mythology. Slavic, Finnic, Norse / Germanic, Chinese, Indian etc.

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Obviously you haven´t got further on in your mythical understanding than to the level of mumbo jumbo and fairy tales. Otherwise you would at least have understood some of the general ideas of ancient myths and their world perspective, which I´m writing of here.

 

[Native]

es, of course. Do you know the precise statement of that conservation law? "The total energy at one time is the same as the total energy at any other time". Time figures in pretty heavily there.

More nonsense. Time don´t define the conservation law. Only transformations defines this law.

 

[Darkstorn]

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Obviously you haven´t got further on in your mythical understanding than to the level of mumbo jumbo and fairy tales.

You are basing that on nothing i've said, only on what you assume.

But for the record, i have studied them extensively. I've put a lot of emphasis specifically in how said mythologies formed. You seem to be more about the philosophical implications which is foolish: You are essentially trying to use them as inspiration for your own constructed world view instead of simply wanting knowledge.

Your use of "mythical understanding" is very loaded with such poison. You seem to want to acutally believe those mythologies. The problem: You read new age journals, you get weird amalgamations of them instead of the real things.

Otherwise you would at least have understood some of the general ideas of ancient myths and their world perspective, which I´m writing of here.

I didn't imply anywhere that i didn't understand it. This is more wishful thinking:

But i understand it. That you got it from some new age philosophy journals instead of studying actual ancient mythologies. You are being too specific, so it looks a lot like you're actually explaining YOUR mythology instead of any ancient one.

TLDR: You are explaining your own amalgamated mythology here. Nothing more. You want to believe, nothing more.

More nonsense. Time don´t define the conservation law. Only transformations defines this law.

But time features heavily in it, which was the point... Looks like my accusations about you were *spot on*.

 

[Native]

he BB has a very precise mathematical model that agrees with observations.

You can make all kinds of mathematical equations and simulations which fits your confused world picture. This STILL doesn´t make any BB theory even credible or plausible

 

[Polymath257]

More nonsense. Time don´t define the conservation law. Only transformations defines this law.

Once again showing how little physics you understand.

Let me guess. You've never actually seen the law of conservation of energy proven, have you?

 

[Polymath257]

You can make all kinds of mathematical equations and simulations which fits your confused world picture. This STILL doesn´t make any BB theory even credible or plausible

Except in the minds of rational people.

 

[Native]

You are being too specific, so it looks a lot like you're actually explaining YOUR mythology instead of any ancient one.

This just prove that you haven´t understood the myths you have studied.

Slavic, Finnic, Norse / Germanic, Chinese, Indian etc.

What do you mean these myths say about the creation?

 

[Darkstorn]

This just prove that you haven´t understood the myths you have studied.

No it doesn't. You didn't use any logic to come to that conclusion, you simply are making an empty statement. Which is a lot like all your other statements.

What do you mean these myths say about the creation?

They all say different things. One of them says that a duck's egg became the world.

 

[Native]

Once again showing how little physics you understand.
Let me guess. You've never actually seen the law of conservation of energy proven, have you?

A subject "time" cannot define another subject "a natural law". BB is also a subject and of course it cannot define anything else but the state of speculative thoughts of modern scientists.

 

[Darkstorn]

A subject "time" cannot define another subject "a natural law". BB is also a subject and of course it cannot define anything else but the state of speculative thoughts of modern scientists.

That's just a bunch of nonsense. I don't understand why Polymath tries to explain it rationally because you just react like this every time. You treat an entirely rational post as something even less valid than your random ramblings?

 

[Native]

They all say different things. One of them says that a duck's egg became the world.

Do you literary believe in this fairy tale level of explanation?

 

[Darkstorn]

Do you literary believe in this fairy tale level of explanation?

You keep accusing me of not understanding your posts, but i made it very clear that i obviously don't believe that.

I'm saying you believe in whatever random new age crap you spout.

And way to call an ancient mythology "fairy tale level of explanation." I guess that doesn't make yours any better?

 

[Native]

That's just a bunch of nonsense. I don't understand why Polymath tries to explain it rationally because you just react like this every time. You treat an entirely rational post as something even less valid than your random ramblings?

Oh, so you too believe that "time made the conservation law"? Are you in family with Polymath or been on the same University, learning the same dogmatics without thinking critical for yourselves?

 

[Native]

You keep accusing me of not understanding your posts,

NO, latest i somewhat accused you for not having understood the myths you´ve read and studied.

 

[Polymath257]

Oh, so you too believe that "time made the conservation law"? Are you in family with Polymath or been on the same University, learning the same dogmatics without thinking critical for yourselves?

Again, I did NOT say that time 'made' the conservation laws. I said that time is *required* to even state them.

As for thinking critically....we do so well enough to reject your nonsense.

 

[Darkstorn]

NO, latest i somewhat accused you for not having understood the myths you´ve read and studied.

Which you have failed to actually show.

Oh, so you too believe that "time made the conservation law"?

Uh... It literally says "over time." It's not about belief.

Are you in family with Polymath or been on the same University, learning the same dogmatics without thinking critical for yourselves?

Okay, now you're just suffering from a meltdown. Take your meds, or remember what your mommy said about manners.

 

[Polymath257]

That's just a bunch of nonsense. I don't understand why Polymath tries to explain it rationally because you just react like this every time. You treat an entirely rational post as something even less valid than your random ramblings?

He brings up some issues that appear fairly often. So I answer them.

I'm still blown away by his belief that there is no gravity in space.....just wow.

 

[Darkstorn]

I'm still blown away by his belief that there is no gravity in space.....just wow.

He... What?

I'd "like" to hear his alternative... "theory"...

 

[blü 2]

IMO, we are getting nowhere fast.

Motion carried.

If you still are interested, I suggest you to read it all over once more or several times.

If you'd only told me what I was supposed to be interested in ─ but apparently that's too much to ask ─ we might have had something to talk about.

Anyway, live long and prosper.

 

[ecco]

I make the claim that instead of studying ancient mythology, you have studied new age crap.