Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
So, at the end of the day, you simply don't care whether what you believe is true or not. This may work for you, but, for many of us, we find value in what is true.
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Age of Earth
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So, at the end of the day, you simply don't care whether what you believe is true or not. This may work for you, but, for many of us, we find value in what is true.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
This could not be further from the truth. Only a very small minority of Christians believe in the "new earth" theory. The reason is that every single piece of evidence ever found points to this theory being incorrect.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
Right on. I didn't know it was possible not to know this. According to the polls I have been looking at, less than 10% of Christians believe in new earth creationism.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
According to all of the polls I've seen, less than 10% of Christians believe in the new earth theory. You've got to be incredibly stubborn to buy into this theory.
If it is not a salvation issue and you do not know much about the subject, I suggest you trust the pros and save yourself from the embarassment
Ciao
- viole
- It's "young earth," not "new earth."
- Can you provide evidence indicating that it's "only a very small minority"?
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
First result I found from a quick google search:
4 in 10 Americans Believe God Created Earth 10,000 Years Ago
4 in 10 Americans Believe God Created Earth 10,000 Years Ago
outhouse
Atheistically
Yes 40% are the stats I thought I remembered reading.
And roughly 77% - 85% are usa Christians depending on which polls you trust or read.
But I would state the 40% would be a tough call to substantiate based on all geographic locations.
outhouse
Atheistically
This is important from your link
About half of Americans believe humans evolved over millions of years, with most of those people saying that God guided the process. Religious, less educated, and older respondents were likelier to espouse a young Earth creationist view — that life was created some 6,000 to 10,000 years ago — according to the poll.
Marisa
Well-Known Member
Many of these surveys are criticized for the way the question is worded. When it's worded in such a way that the participant is forced to choose between science and god, science often loses. When the participant is not forced to choose between science and god, science often wins the day.
This webpage goes a long way towards explaining how radiometric dating works and how we know that it is accurate. It's a good place to read up on the issue for the uninformed.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
For the age of the earth, I'd rather go by the formation of sedimentary layers, how much of the cosmic bodies we can see, radioactive dating, and all the other methods that indicate the earth is about 4.6 billion years old, than what some ancient book says (or, in the case of the Bible, doesn't say) about it.
elijoe_15
Member
It's funny because you say you find value in something that is true yet you believe something false.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
I'm sure I believe many things that may turn out to be false. The respect for truth, and the search for it is an ongoing process. Regardless, what specific belief are you referring to?
Ouroboros
Coincidentia oppositorum
Correct. If I remember right, there's even some proof made to show this. Gödel's incompleteness theorem, if I'm not mistaken.
So, what's your point? There's not a single nut that is exactly identical to another... therefore... what?
Are you suggesting that religion is the better option because religion believes everything and can't prove even 1%? The better option is the one that doesn't even try to understand the world? Or is it something else you're after by suggesting skepticism to science?
Yes, but that is an extremely pathetic mantra. It's also a dishonest one, since you'll employ the criteria of 100% certainty only when convenient.
elijoe_15
Member
Your humanistic beliefs
You are.
Ouroboros
Coincidentia oppositorum
Sorry to butt in, but humanism is a completely different field. It has very little, or nothing to do with science. Humanism is the philosophy that humans are fundamentally good, and that we can do something to improve our world.