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Afghanistan Overrun by Meth

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by The Hammer, May 7, 2021.

  1. The Hammer

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    Afghanistan is being overrun by crystal meth as US begins withdrawal

    Afghanistan is being overrun with Methamphetamine, thanks to the discovery of the local Om weed. It is fueling both despair and the local Taliban and drug gangs.

    "Afghanistan's drug trade generates an estimated $35 million a month for the Taliban and drug gangs. Meanwhile, a narcotics official estimates that one in 10 Afghans are involved in the drug trade, while a 2018 report suggested that a similar number were addicted to drugs. As for the US, which poured $8.6 billion into anti-narcotics efforts from 2002 to 2017, there are no plans to fund those efforts going forward."
     
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  2. Kooky

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    I see the War on Drugs has had similar effects in Afghanistan as it has had in the US.
     
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  3. Shadow Wolf

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    About time we quit funding these abject failures that only work to ruin the lives of those found guilty of minor drug possession charges.
    And I'm not really surprised. Afghanistan and drugs do have a long history together.
     
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    This goes back even before the War on Drugs.
    Opium production in Afghanistan - Wikipedia
     
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    Different drugs. Afghanistan was the center of opiate production, mostly heroine - Meth production would be a relatively new thing.
     
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    Meth production isn't hard or new. And when you're already a major player in the world drug scene, ramping up production of a cheap drug that can be made without any special tools or knowledge is not going to be difficult. And when you have the money and resources to add another drug to production and have better equipment than the minimum needed, it's even less difficult.
    Or, another way to think of this, many Mexican cartels abruptly halted cannabis production because legal cannabis in the US drove the price per bushel down so low that many crops were not even harvested, but rather destroyed to clear way to grow poppy plants and switch to opiates. That wasn't an issue for them; it's just business.
     
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    Before 9,11 and the declared war, wasn't the Taliban opposed to the growing of Cannabis and the like?, but turned to it to finance their war.
     
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    You are assuming that the same corporate structures that govern the American drug trade also dominate agricultural production in Afghanistan, without any indication or evidence that this is in fact the case. Afghan peasants have been growing opiates for decades, in some cases centuries.
     
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    What? You're going to have to demonstrate it, because it's just as easy for me to say you seem to know little about drugs, drug production, and mobs if you think meth and opium being different drugs somehow makes the continuing drug empire going two separate things, with a change in operations not being something that is easily adjusted to when you're already huge in the game.
    And to further complicate things, if it's not made by massive scale labs run by drug warlords who switch over, it's some random person with no chemistry background or equipment doing it in a closet.
    This "different drugs" argument simply doesn't hold up. Those making it and dealing it often times aren't personally use it, and have no attachment to that drug. They are in a business, the markets shift, they give consumers what they want.
     
  10. Kooky

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    Hey, I'm not the boss of you. If you want to make claims willy nilly without any sort of factual support, be my guest.

    I was wondering where you got all this from, but if you don't know yourself, then I won't press you for sources any further.
     
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    Don't know myself? What in the hell does that have to do with anything?
    Go research mobs and cartels and start asking questions instead of beginning with boneheaded assumptions. I don't know the sources? It's called a history book. I'm making assumptions they function like American corporations? Based on what? Your assertion opiates and meth are different drugs and belief this is supposed to somehow make a difference to drug warlords who power is maintained through the money and power their drug money brings?
    As for the rest, I can't really link here how easy meth is to make.
    And I also gave an example of Mexican drug cartels suddenly and abruptly scaling back on cannabis or dropping it entirely in favor of poppy plants due to cannabis not being profitable for them and to change gears to feed America's growing hunger for opiates.
    Amd you want to act like I don't know what I'm talking because "meth and opiates are different drugs.":rolleyes:
     
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