Fra.Morelia
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EDIT:the reason i posted this here, other than my own philosophical leanings, is because I am interested in the pagan view on tolerance. I know the monotheistic one:My book says I am right. 8)
Ahhhh... religous tolerance. What I want here are simply thoughts on tolerance. I will voice mine, sound off if you want to. 1st: there is no such thing as religous tolerance. The subject is too close to home. I am as close as one can get, and I have still done some pretty mean stuff in my day (Ionce chalked a baphomet on my neighbors door whilst drunk and watched her spend the next two weeks rampaging about smudging her house and casting mirror spells while listening to her talk about the black lodge that wa assaulting her.... yea, I was young and mean spirited. But MAN it was funny. I got the idea from Pete Carrolls writings, to give credit where it is due). But i digress. Everyone with a religion cares entirely too much about it to ever be tolerant. The best they can do is think 'the poor lost lamb' whilst sadly shaking their head at the obviously doomed wretch. I myslef, being a Chaos Magickian, have been accused of being: naive, evil, satanic, confused, and criminally and philosophically insane amongst other things by some suppossedly very tolerant folks. And I consider myself an honorable enough kind of fellow. Just don't cross me. But that comes frombeing half Italian, not my philosophies.
2nd: There never will be any such thing as religous tolerance. Religions do not seek to evolve, thus negating improvement. They seek to capture the glory of the past, not the promise of tommorow. But, mainly, when it comes to religion, everyone has an excuse for their intolerance. The belief that it is mistrust, not intolerance is a great one. Also: the claim that since 1000 years ago, in a generally murderous period of human history, someone did something to someone that someone now has a (tenuous at best) claim against the other descendant for. This is about as good as telling me since my family were slave owners that I... what... your family immigrated from Ireland and Italy less than a hundred years ago only to endure bloody well near as much racial intolerance once they got here? oh well.. um.. er.... you're still white!
So basically, I am not optimistic about it at all. Now, this does not mean that I do not believe in civilized debate. I do. But I also know the other guy is probably silently feeling sorry for my soon to be toasty and doomed soul. :drink:
Ahhhh... religous tolerance. What I want here are simply thoughts on tolerance. I will voice mine, sound off if you want to. 1st: there is no such thing as religous tolerance. The subject is too close to home. I am as close as one can get, and I have still done some pretty mean stuff in my day (Ionce chalked a baphomet on my neighbors door whilst drunk and watched her spend the next two weeks rampaging about smudging her house and casting mirror spells while listening to her talk about the black lodge that wa assaulting her.... yea, I was young and mean spirited. But MAN it was funny. I got the idea from Pete Carrolls writings, to give credit where it is due). But i digress. Everyone with a religion cares entirely too much about it to ever be tolerant. The best they can do is think 'the poor lost lamb' whilst sadly shaking their head at the obviously doomed wretch. I myslef, being a Chaos Magickian, have been accused of being: naive, evil, satanic, confused, and criminally and philosophically insane amongst other things by some suppossedly very tolerant folks. And I consider myself an honorable enough kind of fellow. Just don't cross me. But that comes frombeing half Italian, not my philosophies.
2nd: There never will be any such thing as religous tolerance. Religions do not seek to evolve, thus negating improvement. They seek to capture the glory of the past, not the promise of tommorow. But, mainly, when it comes to religion, everyone has an excuse for their intolerance. The belief that it is mistrust, not intolerance is a great one. Also: the claim that since 1000 years ago, in a generally murderous period of human history, someone did something to someone that someone now has a (tenuous at best) claim against the other descendant for. This is about as good as telling me since my family were slave owners that I... what... your family immigrated from Ireland and Italy less than a hundred years ago only to endure bloody well near as much racial intolerance once they got here? oh well.. um.. er.... you're still white!
So basically, I am not optimistic about it at all. Now, this does not mean that I do not believe in civilized debate. I do. But I also know the other guy is probably silently feeling sorry for my soon to be toasty and doomed soul. :drink: