maggie2
Active Member
Last night and early this morning 17 people have been arrested in the Toronto area. They are being labelled as a homegrown terrorist group. Twelve of these people are men and five are boys under 18 years of age. Apparently they had plans to bomb several buildings, including the headquarters of Canada's spy agency, which is right next to the CN Tower in Toronto, and the Parliament buildings in Ottawa.
They had three tons of amonium nitrate, three times the amount used to blow up the Murrah building in Oklahoma City. They also had several devices needed to build bombs. I think I also heard somewhere that they also have firearms, but I'm not sure about that.
Apparently most of these people were Canadian citizens, actually born here in Canada. This seems like the group that bombed the subways in London; they were all British citizens - in other words, homegrown. The cops here say there may still be more arrests in the days ahead.
It makes a person wonder what tey can do to help difuse this kind of thing. I do not believe for one minute that the war in Iraq is helping resolve the terrorist problem. In fact, if anything, I think it is making the problem worse. However, I'm more interested in a discussion of what we as individuals can do to help resolve this problem.
Steven Harper (our right-wing-nut Prime Minister) just gave a speech and I thought I was listening to Bush. Harper spouted the garbage that they hate our democracy and freedom and on and on. That is the worse bull possible. It doesn't address the problem because it doesn't identify the problem. Our democracy and freedom are not the problem. Some of the problem is how the west treats the rest of the world but our democracy is not part of the problem.
I'd like to start a discussion about this issue. What IS the problem? And once you have identified the problem, what solutions can you suggest? We are not going to get rid of terrorism by war. We have to be more creative than that. I'd love to hear everyone's views of the problems and how to solve them.
One thing I know, I'm not willing to walk around in fear and allow a few nuts to usurp my freedom. I'm not going to quit going where I want and doing what I want because someone might blow up a building or some such thing.
They had three tons of amonium nitrate, three times the amount used to blow up the Murrah building in Oklahoma City. They also had several devices needed to build bombs. I think I also heard somewhere that they also have firearms, but I'm not sure about that.
Apparently most of these people were Canadian citizens, actually born here in Canada. This seems like the group that bombed the subways in London; they were all British citizens - in other words, homegrown. The cops here say there may still be more arrests in the days ahead.
It makes a person wonder what tey can do to help difuse this kind of thing. I do not believe for one minute that the war in Iraq is helping resolve the terrorist problem. In fact, if anything, I think it is making the problem worse. However, I'm more interested in a discussion of what we as individuals can do to help resolve this problem.
Steven Harper (our right-wing-nut Prime Minister) just gave a speech and I thought I was listening to Bush. Harper spouted the garbage that they hate our democracy and freedom and on and on. That is the worse bull possible. It doesn't address the problem because it doesn't identify the problem. Our democracy and freedom are not the problem. Some of the problem is how the west treats the rest of the world but our democracy is not part of the problem.
I'd like to start a discussion about this issue. What IS the problem? And once you have identified the problem, what solutions can you suggest? We are not going to get rid of terrorism by war. We have to be more creative than that. I'd love to hear everyone's views of the problems and how to solve them.
One thing I know, I'm not willing to walk around in fear and allow a few nuts to usurp my freedom. I'm not going to quit going where I want and doing what I want because someone might blow up a building or some such thing.
