Adam and Eve is an older story, there are many versions. An African version has the serpent telling the woman to eat the forbidden fruit.
The serpent isn't a "devil", it's a being who gives knowledge to creatures. The story is a metaphor in many ways. Heavenly gardens, first man/woman and...
The concept of the Deity of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit was already well established and understood by the early churches before the 4th century. It only became politicized when the doctrine was challenged and the Roman Church had become aligned with government.
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No, with respect, each of the five versions of Jesus in the NT expressly denies that he's God and never claims to be God. The Trinity notion is a solution to a political problem that arose in the early church in the second century CE, how to make the central character of Christianity God...
You are kidding, right? "according to the spirit"? That's not a thing, unless you want to say that he was a son symbolically, because the biblical text says that about angels, David, Solomon and all Jews.
King Solomon:
I Chronicles 22:9-10
Behold, a son shall be born to you [David],...his name...
God son according to the Spirit, I asked was he not David son according to the flesh., yes or no before u answer read 2 John 1:7. now also, if he was God son why u don't believe him?
post scripture to your claim, book chapter and verse please.
but everyone else broke the commandments.
ERROR...
During the 2nd Temple Period the Persians occupied Israel. Many of the myths in Christianity are from the Persian religion. The rest are from the other occupying nation, Greek.
And of course Jewish theology as well.
Satan as an enemy of God is also Persian. In the OT Satan and Yahweh work...
Reading incidents in the OT and calling them Yahweh acting out because someone upset Him just indicates our willingness to condemn even in the face of our ignorance, and indicates our willingness to not try to understand the bigger issues at stake in what God has done.
There are so many examples of Yahweh acting out because people did something that upset him.
In Habakkuk 3 he smashes mountains and grew horns out of his hands to kill everyone who bothered Habakkuk. Sending Satan to kill 70,000 for a petty reason completely dismantles what you are saying...
Sorry, until the Persian influence on Satan, he worked for Yahweh. Took orders from Yahweh and killed families for Yahweh.
In 1Samuel16:14–23 Yahweh sends a "troubling spirit" to torment King Saul as a mechanism to ingratiate David with the king.[
In 1 Kings 22:19–25
Yahweh asks the Host...
In the movie "Lillies of the Field" three stranded, broke, nuns got a man to build a church. Once he did, they thanked God (not him). They insisted that he had no choice, and that God controlled his actions.
This kind of thinking takes away the motive for helping theists.
Is Jehovah, God...
We are going to have an exchange of ideas. Right and wrong are subjective. No point in arguing about it.
In what way? God didn't create or make the New Jersey Turnpike. He created the universe, the people, the material that allowed the thing to exist. So, without God it wouldn't, but he...
Wait what? I just pointed out that in the OT Satan was an agent of God. Because he WAS.
The first works of Satan were errands for Yahweh:
-In 2 Samuel 24, Yahweh sends the "Angel of Yahweh" to inflict a plague against Israel for three days, killing 70,000 people as punishment
- 1 Chronicles...
Yes, l agree with you.
To me it's nicely summed up in Ephesians 4:6. 'One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all [Christ amongst], and in you all [the body of Christ].
And, l hope you've had a happy birthday!
Hi Redemptionsong. Good afternoon. I believe there is only one place where the Holy Spirit is found and that is in the Assemblies of Yahweh (Ephesians 4:4). There is only one Body (group) where the Holy Spirit is found we read. Yahshua said he came in his Father's name (Yahshua means Yahweh is...
No, GOD Cannot tell lies, and Man is not the model for lying. As Jesus His Pre-Eminence said: The devil is the liar and the murderer from the beginning.
Proof?
When GOD asked Man after he had fallen did they eat from that fruit (which is a blasphemy against the Most holy Character and abilities...
Man tells lies, God tells lies (1 Kings 22; 2 Chronicles 18; Jeremiah 4; Jeremiah 20:7; Ezekiel 14:9; 2 Thessalonians 2:11). Man creates evil, God creates evil (1Samuel16:14; Isaiah 45:7; Amos 3:6); Man kills, God kills (passim, including the Flood and Jesus); and Man sometimes gets it right too.
you need this to be that way, it seems. Otherwise your "contradictions" desintegate quickly.
according to you.
This was what I was going to ask you:
If the tree was really about moral awareness, what's so immoral about going around naked? I mean for an atheist?
Christians have the Bible telling...
I disagree with you that Eve secured the knowledge of morality for humankind and that God withheld it. For bad motives even.
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according to you.
However, you have nothing to back your hypothesis up that it could not potentially be good and evil in a sense of adversity.
This is what the...
Satan is a fallen angel, but that doesn't mean he is the destroying angel. 1Samuel16:14 doesn't refer to the destroying angel or Satan, but to the evil spirit that God allowed to afflict King Saul. Satan is the devil, the demons are the minions.