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  1. gnostic

    Irony of the evolutionary belief

    Wow, you still don’t even know what circular reasoning is. Circular reasoning is when you already have conclusion (eg God or Designer) in mind, but what you have presented in your so-called premise(s), don’t even demonstrate what you have concluded…meaning there are no real link between your...
  2. gnostic

    Water into wine: natural or supernatural?

    No, I don't want you to leave. What I want you to do, is actually start addressing thread's topic, which are any of the miracles of Jesus that supposedly perform, but more specifically the miracle of John 2. I am asking and have been asking about whether such miracles are possible or not...
  3. gnostic

    Genesis - Big Bang mash-up

    Tinkerpreach. I do really hope that you learn from this, and not repeat the same mistakes over and over again as many anti-science creationists do. The problem with most creationists is that they repeating the same mistakes, and refuse to learn from it. i just hoped that you are not one of...
  4. gnostic

    Genesis - Big Bang mash-up

    of course. it has already happened. As @shunyadragon have already given you an example with Stellar Nucleosynthesis. I would to point out that our sun has core that produce helium atom from at least 6 hydrogen nuclei. That’s what it will take to make helium. Stars with similar masses as our...
  5. gnostic

    Irony of the evolutionary belief

    The existence of God has only been established in religions, in scriptures and in the faiths people have in their respective religious beliefs...but these are based on faith, nothing that anyone can objectively verify. Another word for faith is “conviction”…faith is just one’s personal...
  6. gnostic

    Water into wine: natural or supernatural?

    Again, it has nothing to do with John 2 narrative. The gospel is only talking of two things - water & wine. There are no oil, bread, flesh, blood, bones, sword mention in any part of John 2…so yes, you are changing the subject that. I see that we are getting anywhere in this thread, so I am...
  7. gnostic

    Water into wine: natural or supernatural?

    All of these still has nothing to do with the miracle of turning water into wine as narrated in John 2. You are quoting stuff from the OT, which again has nothing to do with the miracle at the wedding at Cana. You are changing the subject, on matters that have no contexts in John 2.
  8. gnostic

    Irony of the evolutionary belief

    That’s just your personal opinion, Leroy. it cannot be “the best explanation”, as you and everyone else who advocated for FT Universe and for ID, have never been able to test the concept, it is nothing more than baseless speculation. Unsubstantiated speculations are just personal opinions...
  9. gnostic

    Irony of the evolutionary belief

    It is not circular reasoning. Circular reasoning is what you do, with those illogical your conclusion that you derived off your 3 faulty premises, that you posted up earlier. And it isn’t circular because even the Discovery Institute’s biggest champion, Michael Behe, a biochemist, admitted...
  10. gnostic

    Irony of the evolutionary belief

    more empty & baseless claims. You do that a lot, Leroy. your personal beliefs are merely your opinions, and they are worthless if you cannot the validity of your beliefs/claims. it is really tiresome that you just keep repeating & recycling your claims. No amount of repeating yourself would...
  11. gnostic

    Irony of the evolutionary belief

    Deeper law? The fine-tuned concept is not even a working hypothesis, and it is definitely not science, so how could possibly be law, Leroy? You are simply making up claim of being law, when it hasn’t been tested in accordance with the Scientific Method. And beside you talk of FT having...
  12. gnostic

    Irony of the evolutionary belief

    Stupidest thing to say. But please go on. No one is going to stop you from shooting yourself In the foot. You might as well make more strawman claims, and shoot both knee-cap off.
  13. gnostic

    Water into wine: natural or supernatural?

    They are not definition. They are similes, poets, bards and religious people used them all the time. While they are fine, to be used in poems and in scriptures like the Bible & the Qur’an, they are utterly useless in the real world. In Norse mythology, they are called kennings, and there are...
  14. gnostic

    Water into wine: natural or supernatural?

    Sure, you can believe whatever you like. What you have "accepted" to be true with your belief, that's what they called "FAITH" is. Faith-based belief are nothing more than just having personal opinion. Belief, like opinion, can be wrong. Especially if the evidence demonstrated the belief to...
  15. gnostic

    Water into wine: natural or supernatural?

    You are quoting verses from Psalms, Ezekiel, Horsea, etc, which really have nothing to do what it say in John 2, about Jesus. These quotes are irrelevance to Jesus' miracle at Cana. I know every well about literature using similes and metaphors, because I used to love reading myths. Other...
  16. gnostic

    Water into wine: natural or supernatural?

    About miracles in general, yes, they are personal opinions, whether it be yours, mine or someone else. However, the composition of water, the composition of grapes and composition of wine, the practice of winemaking - particularly the fermentation process, and so on, they are facts, not...
  17. gnostic

    Water into wine: natural or supernatural?

    Then basically, you believe in magic, because that’s what this miracle is. To be quite frank with you, Kathryn. I used to believe in miracle, such as this one…but the older I get, the less I believe, because from understanding of what water and wine are, it is highly improbable, let alone...
  18. gnostic

    Irony of the evolutionary belief

    you don’t even understand what the strawman even means.
  19. gnostic

    Irony of the evolutionary belief

    Once again, you are using appalling logic. Plus, your argument are merely just a set of unsubstantiated claims, masquerading as premises and conclusion. You did demonstrate one thing that’s true: your shocking incompetence in logical reasoning.
  20. gnostic

    Irony of the evolutionary belief

    That seemed to be common trait among creationists. They don’t care to learn. Even if all the evidence were obviously opposite to whatever scriptures or teachings they believe in, they will ignore them, and refuse to acknowledge their errors. It’s not merely ignorance that drive them to reject...
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