jade0887 said:
What are your opinions about how the Karaite Jews view Jesus and Christianity on the Internet as follows:
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http://www.light-of-israel.org/new_testament_was_wrong.shtml
2 Peter 3:1-13 (World English Bible)
3:1 This is now, beloved, the second letter that I have written to you; and in both of them I stir up your sincere mind by reminding you; 3:2 that you should remember the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and the commandments of us, the apostles of the Lord and Savior: 3:3 knowing this first, that in the last days mockers will come, walking after their own lusts, 3:4 and saying, Where is the promise of his coming? For, from the day that the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. 3:5 For this they willfully forget, that there were heavens from of old, and an earth formed out of water and amid water, by the word of God; 3:6 by which means the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished. 3:7 But the heavens that now are, and the earth, by the same word have been stored up for fire, being reserved against the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men. 3:8 But dont forget this one thing, beloved, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 3:9 The Lord is not slow concerning his promise, as some count slowness; but is patient with us, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fervent heat, and the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up. 3:11 Therefore since all these things will be destroyed like this, what kind of people ought you to be in holy living and godliness, 3:12 looking for and earnestly desiring the coming of the day of God, which will cause the burning heavens to be dissolved, and the elements will melt with fervent heat? 3:13 But, according to his promise, we look for new heavens and a new earth, in which righteousness dwells.
jade0887 said:
What are your opinions about how the Karaite Jews view Jesus and Christianity on the Internet as follows:
2.
http://www.light-of-israel.org/loi8.shtml
Seed here means followers not offspring.
Isaiah 53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to crush him by disease; to see if his soul would offer itself in restitution, that he might see his seed, prolong his days, and that the purpose of the LORD might prosper by his hand: (JPS Tanach 1917)
Last Days 1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. (KJV)
2 Timothy 3:1 But know this, that in the last days grievous times shall come. 3:2 For men shall be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, railers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3:3 without natural affection, implacable, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, no lovers of good, 3:4 traitors, headstrong, puffed up, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God; 3:5 holding a form of godliness, but having denied the power therefore. From these also turn away.
3:6 For of these are they that creep into houses, and take captive silly women laden with sins, led away by divers lusts, 3:7 ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. (American Standard Version 1901)
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Both links make alot of assumptions and also don't take into account many cross-referenced accounts that confirm and explain the main points they have a problem with.
Take for instance the notion that the apostles and disciples would be saved by Jesus. That site speaks in literal terms when Jesus was talking about everlasting life through resurrection.
Also that site is impatient sounding. I remember some friends in Austin, TX partying thinking that Yahweh was about to destroy everyone in the promised land region because they are confused that it, the promised land means just the area. There are other scriptures that show that promised land is like saying park. One scripture set explains the area in detail while another says look this way and that as to say 'as far as the eye can see' perhaps or maybe, as it says in Revelation that God will do away with everyone not on his side, the whole earth would then become the 'promised land'.
Which brings me back to my Judaism friends. They are under the misconception that the messiah will do like the old days. Bow down to God, say a prayer asking if the surrounding peoples will be given into the Jews hands for war and then annihilate everyone that isn't a Jew in the area. Which sounds like the people in bible times who rejected Jesus. They wanted the replacement champion in the line of David. But the prophecy that called the messiah the 'prince of peace' showed that the messiah wouldn't be like David. No rock, sling and one bad guy to take over the promised land.
I could probably go on and on about those links but then we'd end up with a website and not a forum thread. It might even exceed my "Christmas & Santa..." thread because I'd be teaching you the whole bible.