"THE LORD'S DAY IS THE SABBATH DAY NOT SUNDAY ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES

3rdAngel · Jan 12, 2023

3rdAngel said: ↑ Burnt offerings were made for everyday of the week under the old covenant Sanctuary laws under the Levitical Priesthood for sin offerings and for forgiveness of sins which all pointed to the coming of Jesus as Gods' sacrifice for the sins of the world once and for all *See John 1:29 and Hebrews 10:10. We are in the new covenant now based on better promises and these sacrificial and ceremonial laws that pointed to things to come in God's promised Messiah and Saviour have now been fulfilled and continued in Jesus to who they pointed to (see Hebrews 7:1-25; Hebrews 8:1-13; Hebrews 9:1-27 and Hebrews 10:1-22). There Sabbath however is one of God's 10 commandments that give us the knowledge of good and evil in the new covenant and according to the scriptures if we knowingly break anyone of them we stand guilty before God of sin (see James 2:10-11; 1 John 3:4).

Once again according to the scriptures, in the old covenant, the death penalty was not unique to the Sabbath but was applied to all of God’s 10 commandments and were a part of the civil laws of Moses given to the nation of Israel for anyone openly or publicly caught breaking Gods' 10 commandments to help teach God’s people that the wages of sin is death as also shown in the new covenant to all who have sinned (Romans 6:23). The same death penalty was given to anyone who was caught breaking 1st Commandment (Exodus 20:3), Thou shalt have no other gods before me (Deuteronomy 17:1-5; 14:6-10; Exodus 22:20); 2nd Commandment, (Exodus 20:4) Thou shalt not make unto thee any idols (Exodus 20:4; Deuteronomy 27: 15); 3rd Commandment (Exodus 20:7), Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord in vain (Leviticus 24:16); 4th Commandment Sabbath (Exodus 20:8-11) see Exodus 31:14-15; 35:2; 5th commandment (Exodus 20:12) honor your father and mother see Exodus 21:15-17; 6th commandment thou shalt not kill (Exodus 20:13) see Leviticus 24:17; Numbers 35:31-33; 7th commandment thou shalt not commit Adultery (Exodus 20:14) see Leviticus 20:10; John 8:3-5; 8th Commandment thou shall not steal (Exodus 20:15) but only applied to man stealing or kidnapping (Exodus 21:16); 9th commandment (Exodus 20:16) thou shall not bear false witness see Deuteronomy 19:15-21 and the 10th commandments thou shall not covet (Exodus 20:17) see Joshua 7:21-25.

This of course all ceased during the time of Christ when Israel was under Roman rule and law and at the death of Christ bringing an end to the old covenant and the bringing in of the new covenant. The death penalty is still in force today because it is written that the wages of sin is death for those that do not repent before the time of judgement is finished (Romans 6:23; James 2:8-12) but enforcement of the death penalty does not take place until the second coming (see Psalms 9:17; Matthew 5:22,29,30, 10:28, 18:9, 23:15,33; Mark 9:43,45,47; Luke 12:5; 2 Thessalonians 1:9; James 3:6; Revelation 2:11, 20:6,14, 21:8 etc etc) The only difference today is that we are in the new covenant now so we no longer put people to open death because we are not in the physical nation of Israel in the flesh or under the old covenant civil laws of Israel. The death penalty for sin is still the same however for those who reject the gift of God's dear son *Romans 6:23 but Jesus says now that Vengeance is mine and his reward will be with him at the 2nd coming *Romans 12:19-21; Revelation 22:12. God's Word does not teach or support the false doctrine of lawlessness (without law) and Gods' 4th commandment in the new covenant is one of God's 10 commandments that give us the knowledge of what sin is when broken *Exodus 20:8-10; Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4.

@Soapy I am guessing you will ignore all of my posts and scriptures that are in disagreement with you but that is alright as I am use to it. I have answered your questions anyway for anyone interested in what the bible says.

Hope this is helpful.

Your response here...

Soapy said:
The Death Penalty is not in force for someone working on the seventh day: breaking the Sabbath law.

Basically, you are saying in your usual humungously long posts:

The command for burnt offerings no longer apply

The law of putting JEWS to death for violating the sabbath law NO LONGER apply

Thank you!
Jesus said that worship on the mountain nor in the Jerusalem are law.

Worship is in now spirit and truth.

Worship in Spirit and truth can be carried out at any time and in any place reverent to God.

However, Jesus also said that it was right to gather together for worship - which therefore does not exclude Corporate Worship on ANY day of the week and in particular on a day of the week such that the participant is not working all seven days of the week : one day, at least, must be given over to ‘SABBATH’: Rest from secular work.

As I expected you did not address anything in the post and the scriptures you are quoting from that are in disagreement with you again. Who would have guessed

3rdAngel · Jan 12, 2023

Soapy said:
What you said is true. If it were not so then this thread would be far far shorter and less divergent.

The first thing is ask ‘Which “Lord” is being spoken about?’

But since there literally are no other verses or references to anything of the kind, no one can know…

There are just some things not (yet) given to a generation to know…. And in this generation, that question is one of them!

Actually no it was not true at all. Prove that what he said was true. If you cannot why make up stuff that is not true?

3rdAngel · Jan 12, 2023

samtonga43 said:
Soapy! Please stop squirming and answer this direct question:-
*Are you applying the name ‘Satan’ to 3rdAngel and myself?

Yes?
No?

Good luck with getting your answers to your questions and getting your posts actually addressed and responded to sis

AdamjEdgar · Jan 12, 2023

Soapy said:
It seems to me that you are stuck in the Old Testament covenant and therefore deny all of the new covenant that came through Jesus Christ.

Here we go down this rabbit warren again

There is no difference in the two covenants!

In the First Covenant, the Israelites said to Moses (referring to the 10 commandments and moral laws given to them) "all these things we will do"

Exodus 19:7 So Moses went back and summoned the elders of the people and set before them all these words that the LORD had commanded him. 8And all the people answered together, “We will do everything that the LORD has spoken.” So Moses brought their words back to the LORD.

God found fault with the Israelites (Jeremiah 31 and Hebrews 8) and issued a new one correcting the problem he found with the people. What was that fault God found with them and how did he fix it?

The fault is simple, the people did not live up to their promise to Moses made before God in Exodus 19!

How did God fix the problem?

New Covenant

33“But this is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel

after those days, declares the LORD.

I will put My law in their minds

and inscribe it on their hearts.

And I will be their God,

and they will be My people.34No longer will each man teach his neighbor or his brother,

saying, ‘Know the LORD,’

because they will all know Me,

from the least of them to the greatest, declares the LORD.

When Jesus said "i come not to destory the law but to fulfill it" (Matthew 5:17), he was not talking about fulfillment as meaning its done dusted no longer needed. Gods law is eternal, its a reflection of His character. It will always exist.

A very import biblical concept about the law, (ie the 10 commandments) is that they forrm two categories...commands 1-3 = love God and commands 5-10=love thy neighbour. The 4th commandment is the glue that binds them all together...hence Jesus statement i come to fulfill the law! I find this is proven by the text in Revelation 14:12 regarding the patience of the saints.

Who are the saints of God? They are those who do what? 2 things:
1. keep the commandments of God and
2. Have the testimony/faith of Jesus

We know that one cannot be saved by works...that is not what the saints in revelation is defining. the keeping of the commandments (or morality and good works if you like) are "the fruits of our faith" (James 2:18). We want to do good works because we are saved...not the other way around!

samtonga43 · Jan 12, 2023

Soapy said:
‘For us (True believers), there is only one God: The Father…’

Yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist.
1Corinthians 8 6

Soapy said:
‘Father, … Eternal life depends on believing in you, the only true God…’

“And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent”. John 17 3

Soapy said:
‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.’

Jesus answered, “The most important is, ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength. The second is this: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. There is no other commandment greater than these.” Mark 12

Soapy said:
These verses state Yahweh God as a single entity. There is no ‘hint’ of three persons as this one God.

As we can plainly see, you can make Scripture say whatever you want it to say if you are prepared to pull verses out of their context and cut out the words and sentences that don’t suit you.
You should be ashamed, but somehow I doubt you have the integrity to understand why you should be ashamed.

Soapy said:
Im ending this aspect of the debate with you as it is completely nonsensical. I can see you don’t understand what you are stating because you do not understand scriptures - as I suspected from the beginning.

Here’s what I see, Soapy:
I see that you are ending this aspect of the debate because you have no (intelligent) answers to the points I made in my last post.
What is worse is that you now have to resort to twisting the Word of God. But you are fooling only yourself.

samtonga43 · Jan 12, 2023

3rdAngel said:
Good luck with getting your answers to your questions and getting your posts actually addressed and responded to sis

I think that Soapy is too weak to face up to himself and his poor example of how to treat others. I'll try again:

Soapy! Please stop hiding in a corner and answer this direct question:-
*Are you applying the name ‘Satan’ to 3rdAngel and myself?
Yes? No?

A reminder: “ I wonder if 3rdAngel is going to jump in here and ask you to PROVE THAT Jesus IS GOD….!!! Then you and he can accuse each other like Satan fighting Satan!!”

Come on, Soapy! Be a man and answer the question.

Soapy · Jan 13, 2023

3rdAngel said:
Your response here...

As I expected you did not address anything in the post and the scriptures you are quoting from that are in disagreement with you again. Who would have guessed

It’s like SZ implied: you only dodge questions that are against you …

But, yeah, you reply to the parts where you think you can get your view in and then add an accusative suggestions against the opponent.

Im not going to chase you for answers because your absence of answers is good enough for me to deem that you do not have an answer : you have time (somehow) to wrote swathes and swathes of text about anything but what you are directly asked about. Therefore, if you do not answer something it is an assurety that you did not have an responses that wasn’t against you: viz-viz: admit you were wrong!

Soapy · Jan 13, 2023

samtonga43 said:
I think that Soapy is too weak to face up to himself and his poor example of how to treat others. I'll try again:

Soapy! Please stop hiding in a corner and answer this direct question:-
*Are you applying the name ‘Satan’ to 3rdAngel and myself?
Yes? No?

A reminder: “ I wonder if 3rdAngel is going to jump in here and ask you to PROVE THAT Jesus IS GOD….!!! Then you and he can accuse each other like Satan fighting Satan!!”

Come on, Soapy! Be a man and answer the question.

‘Like Satan fighting Satan’… wow! Is that offensive to you? It is a phraseology meaning two persons who are wrong sparring against each other… (Matthew 12:26)

You are expressing lower levels of understanding in your posts such that they lead you into wrongful thoughts and ideas.

When a clear statement is made that, in this instance, ‘Satan is not a Name. It is a Title’, how is it you still do not understand.

Is this why you do not understand the statement I made to you that the word, ‘God’, is not a name. It is a Title!!!

Names are, effectively, ‘Personal identifiers’.

Titles are, effectively, ‘Status identifiers’

The one true ‘deity’ that the Israelites believed in has:

A Name: ‘YHWH’ (in Hebrew)
A Title: ‘Elohim’ (Hebrew / ‘God’ (of Germanic origin)

Because the Israelites only believed in this one deity two situations were raised:

Prior to their only deity stating His name to them through Moses, the Israelites did not have a name to call Him. They therefore called on Him in prayers and worship by the Title that virtually all nations and tribes called each of their deities: ‘God’. Of course, nations and tribes with multiple deities gave personal identifiers for each of their deities. They often related each deity (call them Gods) to certain aspects of the created world. Therefore one ‘God’ might be called, ‘Dagon - God of Crop Fertility’. Do you notice the three elements shown:
1. ‘Dagon’ - the deities name
2. ‘God’ - the deities status
3. ‘Crop Fertility’ - The status context
YHWH (1), God (2) of the Israelites (3), commanded that the Israelites must not use His name in any way irreverent as it is a sacred name. But they would often use His name to seal a deal, or swear an oath, since breaking the deal or breaking the oath such sworn meant a severe penalty for the breaker. But over time they did mis-use His name and served the penalty for doing so - but as always, some got away with it since man is fallible. Seeing this occurring, the Israelites (call them Jews, now!), in order to avoid misrepresenting the name of their one God, directed that the name, ‘Yhwh’ must not be spoken - and thus they could not be guilty of the crime. So, even though the Jewish deity HAS A NAME, the Jews stopped speaking it. They would write it - but not speak it openly. As a result, they reverted to using just the TITLE of their deity. And as a result of that persons such as yourself came to believe that ‘GOD’ is the NAME of the deity of the Jews and of the Christians. But you can see that this is not so. In fact, even the Bible translators REMOVED the name of the Jewish God citing that (for incredibly weird reasons) even writing the name of God (‘YHWH’) could lead to eternal punishment. They there CHANGED scripture text to read ‘LORD’ (all caps) whereever the name ‘Yhwh’ would have been. …. This leads to the problem that lazy writers might not capitalise ‘LORD’ where it should be but instead write ‘Lord’… which pertains, in the New Testament, to Jesus Christ… and thus I have debated with people who say that Jesus is God because God is Lord and Jesus is Lord and we only have one Lord therefore the two are the same person!

But you notice, I hope, that the man, Jesus, son of [Yahweh, the God of the Jews] has a Name (‘Jesus’ properly, ‘Yeshua’/ Joshua), and a Title (‘Christ’ / ‘the Messiah’ both meaning ‘The Anointed One’)

So, as you can see, and as a certain apostle wrote:

‘Though there are many Gods and many Lords, for us (believers) there IS ONLY ONE GOD: The Father, and only ONE Lord, Jesus Christ’

There are MANY [whom are called ‘God’]… search the scriptures and list how many times a being or even an inanimate entity of a kind is called as ‘God’.

‘Money… or the love of such’ can be someone’s ‘God’.

Moses was called ‘God’.

There were many pagan GodS. There still are :::: According to the belief adopted as per the Jews.

And IT DOES NOT MATTER except for LITERACY purposes whether the title ‘God’ is capitalised or not. YHWH is not offended if we write ‘[The Satan] is GOD of this system of things’.

In the scriptures, the reference to ‘God’ WITHOUT any qualifications / context, refers properly to ‘The God of the Jews / Israelites / Christian’s’ as appropriate. The scripture writers rightly thought it tedious to keep writing the full title and left it as simply ‘God’ with the context that would be known as being ‘Of the Israelites / Jews / Christian’s’

‘THE GOD OF THE JEWS’
‘THE GOD OF THE CHRISTIANS’ (though there isn’t actually a title of ‘Christian’ in scriptures - it is a title that has been foisted on those who profess to believe they are ‘Followers of Jesus THE CHRIST’

And so, back to your question:
‘Satan is a TITLE’. It pertains to ANYONE who acts in a deceitful way. It is rightly used with the INDEFINITE ARTICLE ‘a’: ‘You are a Satan’.

How easily you are offended due to ignorance by lack of understanding. And if you lack understand in such small matters as basic literacy; what of weightier matters of scriptures.

Soapy · Jan 13, 2023

samtonga43 said:
Yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist.
1Corinthians 8 6

“And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent”. John 17 3

Jesus answered, “The most important is, ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength. The second is this: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. There is no other commandment greater than these.” Mark 12

As we can plainly see, you can make Scripture say whatever you want it to say if you are prepared to pull verses out of their context and cut out the words and sentences that don’t suit you.
You should be ashamed, but somehow I doubt you have the integrity to understand why you should be ashamed.

Here’s what I see, Soapy:
I see that you are ending this aspect of the debate because you have no (intelligent) answers to the points I made in my last post.
What is worse is that you now have to resort to twisting the Word of God. But you are fooling only yourself.

So someone who has the strength and intelligence to walk away from an opponent who is making no sense concerning a discussion or a dispute, is the one who os wrong…. Hmmm… didn’t I see 3rdAngel say he was going to abandon the debate with another poster…? Yet he tags your comment response with a ‘Carrot’ emoji when I say similar… isn’t there a name (like ‘Hypocrite’) for such behaviours?

Soapy · Jan 13, 2023

So, 3rdAngel, can you outline again (without referring to previous links - just keep it simple) exactly what you are saying ‘Sabbath’ means?

From what I read if your huge swathes of ‘proof’, you are saying that ‘Sabbath’ means ‘7th day rest’.

I am saying that ‘Sabbath’ just means ‘Rest’ and is given special significance as being from secular work on the 7th day. The word itself does not include the term ‘Seventh Day’ in its definition. Therefore there can be any number and kinds of ‘Sabbath’s.

In scriptures, the Jews used certain numbers to suggest periods of time:

‘1’ is self contained
‘3’ is the minimum for legal purposes
‘7’ has more significance than simply days in a week
‘12’ is a number of special assignment value
‘40’ means a moderate amount of time in relation to a total
‘50’ The age of Seniority
‘70’ means an amount much larger than 40
‘1000’ means a huge amount of time (generally in years)
‘144,000’ is equivalent to an almost uncountable but yet limited amount in respect of the whole

I might suggest that the main Noah and the ark incident was not exactly 40 days, nor was Jesus in the wilderness for exactly 40 days. The number, 40, would serve as an indicator to a listener as to a relative length of contextual time that an incident took place in just as we might say today: ‘In a week of two’; ‘Give me a minute’; ‘A few years’. And that Jesus would have seen Abraham if he had been 50 years old or older!!!

A Sabbath Week means ‘Every Seven Weeks’. The ‘seven’ is implied by the time period ‘Week’ but is not explicit.

‘You must Sabbath on the Sabbath - the seventh day of the week’ makes sense to me.

‘You must rest on the day God designated for your rest - the seventh day of the week’ makes sense to me.

samtonga43 · Jan 13, 2023

Soapy said:
‘Like Satan fighting Satan’… wow! Is that offensive to you? It is a phraseology meaning two persons who are wrong sparring against each other… (Matthew 12:26)

And so, back to your question:
‘Satan is a TITLE’. It pertains to ANYONE who acts in a deceitful way. It is rightly used with the INDEFINITE ARTICLE ‘a’: ‘You are a Satan’.

‘You are a Satan’.
This is how you are addressing myself and 3rdAngel?

samtonga43 · Jan 13, 2023

Soapy said:
So someone who has the strength and intelligence to walk away from an opponent who is making no sense concerning a discussion or a dispute, is the one who os wrong….

Soapy, what I am saying makes no sense to you because you simply do not understand what God is saying to you in His Word and through His Word.

So, you have to walk away because of lack of strength and intelligence.

3rdAngel · Jan 13, 2023

Soapy said:
It’s like SZ implied: you only dodge questions that are against you …

But, yeah, you reply to the parts where you think you can get your view in and then add an accusative suggestions against the opponent.

Im not going to chase you for answers because your absence of answers is good enough for me to deem that you do not have an answer : you have time (somehow) to wrote swathes and swathes of text about anything but what you are directly asked about. Therefore, if you do not answer something it is an assurety that you did not have an responses that wasn’t against you: viz-viz: admit you were wrong!

Lets not be dishonest Soapy, please show and provide evidence for your claim here and show me where I have not completely addressed your questions and where you claim I have dodged them? If you cannot why make claims that are not truthful?

3rdAngel · Jan 13, 2023

Soapy said:
So, 3rdAngel, can you outline again (without referring to previous links - just keep it simple) exactly what you are saying ‘Sabbath’ means?

From what I read if your huge swathes of ‘proof’, you are saying that ‘Sabbath’ means ‘7th day rest’.

I am saying that ‘Sabbath’ just means ‘Rest’ and is given special significance as being from secular work on the 7th day. The word itself does not include the term ‘Seventh Day’ in its definition. Therefore there can be any number and kinds of ‘Sabbath’s.

In scriptures, the Jews used certain numbers to suggest periods of time:

‘1’ is self contained

‘3’ is the minimum for legal purposes

‘7’ has more significance than simply days in a week

‘12’ is a number of special assignment value

‘40’ means a moderate amount of time in relation to a total

‘50’ The age of Seniority

‘70’ means an amount much larger than 40

‘1000’ means a huge amount of time (generally in years)

‘144,000’ is equivalent to an almost uncountable but yet limited amount in respect of the whole

I might suggest that the main Noah and the ark incident was not exactly 40 days, nor was Jesus in the wilderness for exactly 40 days. The number, 40, would serve as an indicator to a listener as to a relative length of contextual time that an incident took place in just as we might say today: ‘In a week of two’; ‘Give me a minute’; ‘A few years’. And that Jesus would have seen Abraham if he had been 50 years old or older!!!

A Sabbath Week means ‘Every Seven Weeks’. The ‘seven’ is implied by the time period ‘Week’ but is not explicit.

‘You must Sabbath on the Sabbath - the seventh day of the week’ makes sense to me.

‘You must rest on the day God designated for your rest - the seventh day of the week’ makes sense to me.

Your question was answered with a detailed scripture response already with supporting evidence from Hebrew Dictionaries as well as Lexicons and an Interlinear linked to BibleHub so you can check them for yourself as well as a scriptural definition of Gods' 4th commandment in Exodus 20:10 (see post # 2027 linked) meaning every seventh day of the week. The Hebrew shows that the Hebrew Word Sabbath does not mean rest. Its meaning is "every seventh day" of the week. It is a noun not a verb. Both the "Sabbath" (the seventh day of the week) and "rest" (cease and desist from working) are two very different Hebrew words. Go back and read the linked post that is in disagreement with you. This was already answered a long time ago. You just decided to ignore it. "Rest" (verb) does not mean Sabbath (noun). Sabbath and rest are two different Hebrew words. Resting however is how the Sabbath is kept holy.

Take care.

Soapy · Jan 14, 2023

3rdAngel said:
Actually no it was not true at all. Prove that what he said was true. If you cannot why make up stuff that is not true?

That’s all you do - not answer questions against you and demand ‘proof’ as a way out.

Soapy · Jan 14, 2023

3rdAngel said:
Your question was answered with a detailed scripture response already with supporting evidence from Hebrew Dictionaries as well as Lexicons and an Interlinear linked to BibleHub so you can check them for yourself as well as a scriptural definition of Gods' 4th commandment in Exodus 20:10 (see post # 2027 linked) meaning every seventh day of the week. The Hebrew shows that the Hebrew Word Sabbath does not mean rest. Its meaning is "every seventh day" of the week. It is a noun not a verb. Both the "Sabbath" (the seventh day of the week) and "rest" (cease and desist from working) are two very different Hebrew words. Go back and read the linked post that is in disagreement with you. This was already answered a long time ago. You just decided to ignore it. "Rest" (verb) does not mean Sabbath (noun). Sabbath and rest are two different Hebrew words. Resting however is how the Sabbath is kept holy.

Take care.

I asked you several times to answer in simplicity but it seems it’s against your ability.

There is a desperation in your posts that demand that you do not answer in easy ways but only in long lengthy mournful dirges that stresses the patience’s of those who have work to do.

Soapy · Jan 14, 2023

samtonga43 said:
Soapy, what I am saying makes no sense to you because you simply do not understand what God is saying to you in His Word and through His Word.

So, you have to walk away because of lack of strength and intelligence.

No, I’m not understanding what YOU are saying because YOU are not making sense.

Ok, tell me what the word, ‘God’ means to you.
Please bear in mind that ‘God’ as a WORD is a TITLE given to anyone or thing that is greatest in its class by context - I’m not referring to any SPECIFIC ‘PERSON /DEITY / Spirit’ to whom the title might be applied to.

samtonga43 · Jan 14, 2023

Soapy said:
No, I’m not understanding what YOU are saying because YOU are not making sense.

You forgot to finish that sentence. You need to type “to me” after the word ‘sentence’.

Soapy said:
Ok, tell me what the word, ‘God’ means to you.
Please bear in mind that ‘God’ as a WORD is a TITLE given to anyone or thing that is greatest in its class by context - I’m not referring to any SPECIFIC ‘PERSON /DEITY / Spirit’ to whom the title might be applied to.

Easy! God is in a class of His own, Soapy. To me, and to every Christian I know, the word God means the creator and ruler of the universe and source of all moral authority; the supreme being.

To Christians, the word God is not just a label. It is infinitely more. It means:--

Goodness
Graciousness
Holiness
Infinity
Love
Mystery
The three ‘omnis’
Immutability
Eternal
Aseity

(Just some of His attributes)

Many gods; One God.
***

(I think I’ve made a mistake, Soapy and I apologize. I assumed you were a Christian).
***
You have accused 3rd Angel and me of being 'a Satan’. And you have refused to apologize. You are turning truth on Its head.

3rdAngel · Jan 14, 2023

Soapy said:
That’s all you do - not answer questions against you and demand ‘proof’ as a way out.

Sadly you are not telling the truth again. Please be honest and post me a link to where I have not answered your question with a detailed scripture response. If you cannot why make up things that are not true? I will leave these questions between you and God to work through.

3rdAngel · Jan 14, 2023

3rdAngel said: ↑ Your question was answered with a detailed scripture response already with supporting evidence from Hebrew Dictionaries as well as Lexicons and an Interlinear linked to BibleHub so you can check them for yourself as well as a scriptural definition of Gods' 4th commandment in Exodus 20:10 (see post # 2027 linked) meaning every seventh day of the week. The Hebrew shows that the Hebrew Word Sabbath does not mean rest. Its meaning is "every seventh day" of the week. It is a noun not a verb. Both the "Sabbath" (the seventh day of the week) and "rest" (cease and desist from working) are two very different Hebrew words. Go back and read the linked post that is in disagreement with you. This was already answered a long time ago. You just decided to ignore it. "Rest" (verb) does not mean Sabbath (noun). Sabbath and rest are two different Hebrew words. Resting however is how the Sabbath is kept holy.

Your response here...

Soapy said:
I asked you several times to answer in simplicity but it seems it’s against your ability. There is a desperation in your posts that demand that you do not answer in easy ways but only in long lengthy mournful dirges that stresses the patience’s of those who have work to do.

Please stop making things up Soapy. There is no truth in what you post whatsoever. Try reading the post you are responding to. Sadly here is no truth in your posts. Claims of desperation seem to only be coming from you due to your inability to respond to or address post and scripture content that is in disagreement with you.

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