Big Texas; Big Gun Rights

If their in your house and they are not in retreat, their dead meat.

Don't have the police come to your house with a guy shot in the back.

As far as getting sued is concerned, just about anyone can sue you for just about anything. Civil laws are more draconian that the criminal laws. Our state is just about as gun friendly as it gets. We are not required to retreat to remove a threat. If you are outside trying to burn my house, I can use deadly force. Removing the tires from my car in the driveway, you may not shoot.

People who are not comfortable with guns are safer in my state because people will not bother you because you just might have a gun.

Reverend Rick said:

If their in your house and they are not in retreat, their dead meat.

Don't have the police come to your house with a guy shot in the back.

As far as getting sued is concerned, just about anyone can sue you for just about anything. Civil laws are more draconian that the criminal laws. Our state is just about as gun friendly as it gets. We are not required to retreat to remove a threat. If you are outside trying to burn my house, I can use deadly force. Removing the tires from my car in the driveway, you may not shoot.

People who are not comfortable with guns are safer in my state because people will not bother you because you just might have a gun.

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I love Kentucky's laws! You can carry knives, ninja stars, nunchucks or whatever. LOL! We have reciprocity with Ky and I always carry when I drive down to Red River Gorge.

Radio Frequency X said:

Criminals Beware



Should these types of gun laws be restricted by the federal government?

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We have always been able to respond to an actual threat of bodily harm with deadly force. We have never been able to respond to verbal or implied threats of bodily harm with deadly force, though. And the line between these is difficult to assess, sometimes. I think that in most cases the deciding factor is whether there is a reasonably perceived threat of bodily harm. So really, this "new law" is probably just more politicing, and is mostly redundant. But I'm sure it plays well to the ignorant rednecks who want to imagine themselves to be big, tough, gun-totin' cowboys that the bad guys are all asceert of. And it is Texas, after all.

Jessica Magan said:

I live in Texas and I can tell you right now no one is pushing to reenact slavery. I resent that people constantly assume that southern people are ignorant bigots. Secondly I highly doubt any judge is going to allow someone to shoot their coworker over a disagreement. As for the columbine comment, the tragedy in Columbine had nothing to do with gun safety laws and everything to do with parents and teachers not doing their jobs. Teachers should make themsleves more aware of bullying and actually try to help the victims. And parents should be home and awake enough to know where their kids are and what there doing. If your not up to the challenge get sterilized and don't have kids. But stop expecting everyone else to give up their rights because you can,t handle being a parent.

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Huh. I think the sarcasm about the whole slavery bit got overlooked in my post, and if that's what happened, my apologies for lack of clarity. I cleaned that up.

That said, I stand by the rest of it. I'm very sorry, Jessica, but Texas struggles to shake its stereotype that it largely consists of culturally isolated, gun-happy people, and this bill can't help but intensify it. But by no means does Texas have a monopoly on a culture of fear; America seems to have that quality nailed down. I mean, we're just freakin' afraid of everything it seems: Foreigners, China, Blacks, feminists, gays, Bush, terrorists, communists--we as a nation are just so damn AFRAID. And just like itching a mosquito bite is not going to make it go away, putting guns in people's hands is not going to alleviate that fear.

And no offense, but isn't this a little presumptuous thing to say about our parents and teachers?

Speaking as a Texan, I'd just like to comment on how absurd some laws in Texas are in dealing with guns and revenge are absolutely absurd. Our beloved Representative Kuempel introduced a bill that would allow blind people to hunt. :cover: And don't even get me started on how easy it is to get away with murder when your spouse is commiting adultery.

These big "gun rights" are not rights at all; they're chicken feed for people who just want to hear that they can do more with their weapons.

Legally speaking I'm not against hunting or owning a gun, but using ambiguous terms in the 2nd amendment to support murder is something I stand firmly against. No TV is worth a life. No period of "insanity."

Mercy Not Sacrifice said:

Huh. I think the sarcasm about the whole slavery bit got overlooked in my post, and if that's what happened, my apologies for lack of clarity. I cleaned that up.

That said, I stand by the rest of it. I'm very sorry, Jessica, but Texas struggles to shake its stereotype that it largely consists of culturally isolated, gun-happy people, and this bill can't help but intensify it. But by no means does Texas have a monopoly on a culture of fear; America seems to have that quality nailed down. I mean, we're just freakin' afraid of everything it seems: Foreigners, China, Blacks, feminists, gays, Bush, terrorists, communists--we as a nation are just so damn AFRAID. And just like itching a mosquito bite is not going to make it go away, putting guns in people's hands is not going to alleviate that fear.

And no offense, but isn't this a little presumptuous thing to say about our parents and teachers?

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Thank you for retracting the slavery statement. I understand that most people view southerners as ignorant rednecks who just want to strut around like Billy bad @%%. I blame this largely on the media but growing up in south east Texas I have lived in peace with people of all races, nationalities, religions, and sexual preferences. I agree that giving everyone a gun is'nt going to irradicate our fears. I also don't believe you should own a gun if you are not educated in gun safety. However the first step towards dictatorship is disarming the nations citizens. About my comment towards parents and teachers. If I was a little harsh I apologize but if you compare time lines between the decline of the american family and increase in juivinelle violence, drug use and promiscuity you will see a disturbing trend. My apologies to teachers they are truly doing the best they can with limited resources.:slap:

I've never understood what hunting has to do with gun ownership? I'm all for the guest worker programs, but our unfettered borders are scaring people to death. I have no problem with the undoc's. There is a whole lot more than undoc's crossing our border.

Gangs, drug smugglers and generally unlawful people are hurting American citizens and getting away with it. When helicopters land and steal fuel from tanker trucks at gun point and militias run our national guard away from our border, no wonder so many people are packing heat.

Oh, by the way, the police are not obligated to protect you. If you were in the L.A. riots or in New Orleans and called 911 and got the busy signal, you will find out quickly your safety is your own responsibility.

That is extreme, but if a rabid dog is chewing your child's foot off, you might be glad your neighbor has a gun and knows how to use it.

People ask if a certain weapon is needed for hunting, No, why should it be?

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I mean, we're just freakin' afraid of everything it seems: Foreigners, China, Blacks, feminists, gays, Bush, terrorists, communists--we as a nation are just so damn AFRAID.

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This is simply what the media says. It's what the politicians want. As long as they keep us "scared" there is always a need for them to protect us. I am personally concerned about our borders but that's because I have this weird sense of justice where I don't like the law broken. I know I know, I must hate Mexicans. (sarcasm).

NoahideHiker said:

This is simply what the media says. It's what the politicians want. As long as they keep us "scared" there is always a need for them to protect us. I am personally concerned about our borders but that's because I have this weird sense of justice where I don't like the law broken. I know I know, I must hate Mexicans. (sarcasm).

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I believe you hate the beginning steps of Anarchy.

GeneCosta said:

Speaking as a Texan, I'd just like to comment on how absurd some laws in Texas are in dealing with guns and revenge are absolutely absurd. Our beloved Representative Kuempel introduced a bill that would allow blind people to hunt. :cover:

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It's better than hunting with Dick Cheny. :slap:

Reverend Rick said:

When helicopters land and steal fuel from tanker trucks at gun point and militias run our national guard away from our border, no wonder so many people are packing heat.

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When has either of these happened?

How can a chopper steal fuel from a tanker truck? Must be one hell of an operation, considering that the chopper has no way to store a tanker truck's worth of fuel.

angellous_evangellous said:

When has either of these happened?

How can a chopper steal fuel from a tanker truck? Must be one hell of an operation, considering that the chopper has no way to store a tanker truck's worth of fuel.

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It stole enough fuel to fill up the chopper. Geeze, it was on the news several years ago. They were heavily armed.

I can't believe you did not hear about the national guard having to retreat from the border while building a fence.

Does the news you watch report anything? Do you listen to the news?

I guess you did not hear about a newly elected sheriff being assassinated in a small border town that vowed to stop drug trafficking either.

Take a vacation along the border, you may feel intimidated.

Last chance, did you hear about Arnold Schwarzenegger refusing to send his share of national guardsmen to build the same fence I am talking about?