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The Corporate Insurrection: How companies have broken promises and funded seditionists

Truthseeker

Non-debating member when I can help myself
The Democratic party long ago abandoned its working class base and has been moving steadily to the right for decades.
It looks to me that they have been moving to the left in the last four years at least. I don't know about longer.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I didn't know that the DNC was technically a corporation. That's interesting.
So is the RNC.
Many people think "corporation" means a business.
But it's actually a form of organization designed to
limit liability for the people involved.
Each piece of investment real estate I've owned has
been set up as something similar, ie, an LLC (limited
liability company). This has been useful to avoid
things business from adversely affecting things personal.
 

Kooky

Freedom from Sanity
Specifically, an LLC allows its owners to avoid being held personally accountable for their company's activities, and vice versa, a useful feature ever since the East India Company started massacring indigenous villages for nutmeg.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
It would of never happened if Democrats stopped force feeding their agendas on people.

People create their own monsters and sometimes that creation bites back.
What? No. Trump spewed lies that people were dumb enough to believe. Trump told these thugs to fight like hell, and they did. Really, I am no fan of Mike Pence, I strongly despise the man, and I hate his anti-LGBT and pro-smoking crap (seriously, RJ Reynolds were on Pence's corporate sponsors and Pence did severely downplay the risks of smoking), but killing him is too far. That is the call of extremists. And these extremists were wanting to hang Pence not because of Democrats but because Pence refused to overstep the boundaries of his office and overturn a free and fair election.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Specifically, an LLC allows its owners to avoid being held personally accountable for their company's activities, and vice versa, a useful feature ever since the East India Company started massacring indigenous villages for nutmeg.
It's still pretty useful today, because accidents happen and mom 'n pop Main street isn't raking in millions.
 

Truthseeker

Non-debating member when I can help myself
Interesting. Can you give some examples of this?

The average Democrat today would make the Republicans of yesterday look Socialist.
5 years or so ago Bernie Sanders advocated "leftist" policies when he ran for president, and surprised the Democratic party with the degree of popularity he had. As at result the Democratic candidates seemed to tend more towards the "left" in the last election. In fact I would say that "seemingly" Joe Biden looks more left than before, of course to win votes, and get to the new center of the party. He wants to win votes like everyone else, and at the same time bridge divides to get things done.

Unfortunately it is evident it is not working when he got elected. He is not able to bridge divides.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
It would of never happened if Democrats stopped force feeding their agendas on people.

People create their own monsters and sometimes that creation bites back.
Here's a summary of the highlights of why it happened. He blamed just about everyone, including Dems, Reps, media, tech, Supreme Court, governors, and a laundry list of others.
I’m honest. And I just, again, I want to thank you. It’s just a great honor to have this kind of crowd and to be before you and hundreds of thousands of American patriots who are committed to the honesty of our elections and the integrity of our glorious republic.

All of us here today do not want to see our election victory stolen by emboldened radical-left Democrats, which is what they’re doing. And stolen by the fake news media. That’s what they’ve done and what they’re doing. We will never give up, we will never concede. It doesn’t happen. You don’t concede when there’s theft involved.

Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore and that’s what this is all about. And to use a favorite term that all of you people really came up with: We will stop the steal. Today I will lay out just some of the evidence proving that we won this election and we won it by a landslide. This was not a close election.
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Because if Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election. All he has to do, all this is, this is from the number one, or certainly one of the top, Constitutional lawyers in our country. He has the absolute right to do it. We’re supposed to protect our country, support our country, support our Constitution, and protect our constitution.
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States want to revote. The states got defrauded, They were given false information. They voted on it. Now they want to recertify. They want it back. All Vice President Pence has to do is send it back to the states to recertify and we become president and you are the happiest people.

And I actually, I just spoke to Mike. I said: “Mike, that doesn’t take courage. What takes courage is to do nothing. That takes courage.” And then we’re stuck with a president who lost the election by a lot and we have to live with that for four more years. We’re just not going to let that happen.
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We’re gathered together in the heart of our nation’s capital for one very, very basic and simple reason: To save our democracy.

You know most candidates on election evening and, of course, this thing goes on so long. They still don’t have any idea what the votes are. We still have congressional seats under review. They have no idea. They’ve totally lost control. They’ve used the pandemic as a way of defrauding the people in a proper election.
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We want to go back and we want to get this right because we’re going to have somebody in there that should not be in there and our country will be destroyed and we’re not going to stand for that.

For years, Democrats have gotten away with election fraud and weak Republicans. And that’s what they are. There’s so many weak Republicans. And we have great ones. Jim Jordan and some of these guys, they’re out there fighting. The House guys are fighting. But it’s, it’s incredible.
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The weak Republicans, and that’s it. I really believe it. I think I’m going to use the term, the weak Republicans. You’ve got a lot of them. And you got a lot of great ones. But you got a lot of weak ones. They’ve turned a blind eye, even as Democrats enacted policies that chipped away our jobs, weakened our military, threw open our borders and put America last.

And you have to get your people to fight. And if they don’t fight, we have to primary the hell out of the ones that don’t fight. You primary them. We’re going to. We’re going to let you know who they are. I can already tell you, frankly.
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But this year, using the pretext of the China virus and the scam of mail-in ballots, Democrats attempted the most brazen and outrageous election theft and there’s never been anything like this. So pure theft in American history. Everybody knows it.

That election, our election was over at 10 o’clock in the evening. We’re leading Pennsylvania, Michigan, Georgia, by hundreds of thousands of votes.

And then late in the evening, or early in the morning, boom, these explosions of bull——.
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But we look at the facts and our election was so corrupt that in the history of this country we’ve never seen anything like it. You can go all the way back.

You know, America is blessed with elections. All over the world they talk about our elections. You know what the world says about us now? They said, we don’t have free and fair elections.

And you know what else? We don’t have a free and fair press. Our media is not free, it’s not fair. It suppresses thought, it suppresses speech and it’s become the enemy of the people. It’s become the enemy of the people. It’s the biggest problem we have in this country.
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No third-world countries would even attempt to do what we caught them doing. And you’ll hear about that in just a few minutes.

Republicans are, Republicans are constantly fighting like a boxer with his hands tied behind his back. It’s like a boxer. And we want to be so nice. We want to be so respectful of everybody, including bad people. And we’re going to have to fight much harder.

And Mike Pence is going to have to come through for us, and if he doesn’t, that will be a, a sad day for our country because you’re sworn to uphold our Constitution.

Now, it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy.
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Because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong. We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated.
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Today we will see whether Republicans stand strong for integrity of our elections. But whether or not they stand strong for our country, our country. Our country has been under siege for a long time. Far longer than this four-year period. We’ve set it on a much greater course. So much, and we, I thought, you know, four more years. I thought it would be easy.
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And I can say this. Since our election, I believe, which was such a catastrophe, when I watch. And even these guys knew what happened. They know what happened. They’re saying: “Wow, Pennsylvania’s insurmountable. Wow, Wisconsin.” Look at the big leads we had, right. Even though the press said we would lose Wisconsin by 17 points. Even though the press said, Ohio’s going to be close, we set a record; Florida’s going to be close, we set a record; Texas is going to be close, Texas is going to be close, we set a record.
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Today we see a very important event though. Because right over there, right there, we see the event going to take place. And I’m going to be watching. Because history is going to be made. We’re going to see whether or not we have great and courageous leaders, or whether or not we have leaders that should be ashamed of themselves throughout history, throughout eternity they’ll be ashamed.
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As you know, the media has constantly asserted the outrageous lie that there was no evidence of widespread fraud. Have you ever seen these people? While there is no evidence of fraud. Oh, really? Well, I’m going to read you pages. I hope you don’t get bored listening to it. Promise? Don’t get bored listening to it, all those hundreds of thousands of people back there. Move them up, please, yeah.
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But we don’t have that anymore. We don’t have a fair media anymore. It’s suppression. And you have to be very careful with that and they’ve lost all credibility in this country.

We will not be intimidated into accepting the hoaxes and the lies that we’ve been forced to believe.

Over the past several weeks, we’ve amassed overwhelming evidence about a fake election. This is the presidential election. Last night was a little bit better because of the fact that we had a lot of eyes watching one specific state, but they cheated like hell anyway.
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You know, look, I’m not happy with the Supreme Court. They love to rule against me. I picked three people. I fought like hell for them. One in particular, I fought. They all said, “Sir, cut him loose.” He’s killing the senators. You know, very loyal senators, they’re very loyal people, “Sir, cut him loose, he’s killing us, sir, cut him loose.” I must have gotten half of the senators.

But it almost seems that they’re all going out of their way to hurt all of us and to hurt our country. To hurt our country.
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And the Supreme Court, they rule against me so much. You know why? Because the story is — I haven’t spoken to any of them, any of them, since virtually they got in — but the story is that they’re my puppets. Right? That they’re puppets.
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In every single swing state, local officials, state officials, almost all Democrats, made illegal and unconstitutional changes to election procedures without the mandated approvals by the state legislatures.

That these changes paved a way for fraud on a scale never seen before. I think we go a long way outside of our country when I say that.
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You will have an illegitimate president. That’s what you’ll have. And we can’t let that happen.

These are the facts that you won’t hear from the fake news media. It’s all part of the suppression effort. They don’t want to talk about it. They don’t want to talk about it. In fact, when I started talking about that, I guarantee you, a lot of the television sets and a lot of those cameras went off. And that’s a lot of cameras back there. But a lot of them went off.
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I’ve been telling these Republicans, get rid of Section 230. And for some reason, Mitch and the group, they don’t want to put it in there and they don’t realize that that’s going to be the end of the Republican Party as we know it, but it’s never going to be the end of us. Never. Let them get out. Let, let the weak ones get out. This is a time for strength.

They also want to indoctrinate your children in school by teaching them things that aren’t so. They want to indoctrinate your children. It’s all part of the comprehensive assault on our democracy, and the American people are finally standing up and saying no. This crowd is, again, a testament to it.
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And not a single swing state has conducted a comprehensive audit to remove the illegal ballots.
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So, I mean, I could go on and on about this fraud that took place in every state, and all of these legislatures want this back.
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So when you hear, when you hear, while there is no evidence to prove any wrongdoing, this is the most fraudulent thing anybody has, this is a criminal enterprise. This is a criminal enterprise.
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Today is not the end, it’s just the beginning.
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We must stop the steal and then we must ensure that such outrageous election fraud never happens again, can never be allowed to happen again.
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And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
5 years or so ago Bernie Sanders advocated "leftist" policies when he ran for president, and surprised the Democratic party with the degree of popularity he had. As at result the Democratic candidates seemed to tend more towards the "left" in the last election. In fact I would say that "seemingly" Joe Biden looks more left than before, of course to win votes, and get to the new center of the party. He wants to win votes like everyone else, and at the same time bridge divides to get things done.

Unfortunately it is evident it is not working when he got elected. He is not able to bridge divides.
True. The Republicans are too skilled at distracting and frightening voters; making up fake crises and blaming it on the Democrats.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
True. The Republicans are too skilled at distracting and frightening voters; making up fake crises and blaming it on the Democrats.
Here the last election, Republican ads were all doom and gloom. Amd despite that, they have signs that say "pick freedom not fear. Vote Republican." Except Republicans here are ramping up the fear and telling people to be afraid.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Here the last election, Republican ads were all doom and gloom. Amd despite that, they have signs that say "pick freedom not fear. Vote Republican." Except Republicans here are ramping up the fear and telling people to be afraid.
Republicans, of late, have not been running on substantive, practical issues. They've motivated their base with wars on terror, prayer in schools, invasions of rapists and drug dealers, abortion, gays, same-sex bathrooms and critical race theory.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
You might have a point had he not told the crowd gathered in DC on Jan 6th to "fight like hell." And they did just that.
Not that lame bs excuse again. A lot of politictions said that. Both sides of the aisle. Many times.


Problem is Democrats don't see themselves as the problem. Just everyone else aside from themselves is a problem.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Not that lame bs excuse again. A lot of politictions said that. Both sides of the aisle. Many times.


Problem is Democrats don't see themselves as the problem. Just everyone else aside from themselves is a problem.
He said multiple times to the crowd the right thing is overturning it. He specifically told them to fight or they won't have a country. This wasn't normal politics. Normal political speeches aren't saturated with lies about an election, desires to see it overturned, amd repeatedly stating Biden isn't the legitimate winner. He made it so much the opposite he criticized candidates conceding an election.
 

Kooky

Freedom from Sanity
It's still pretty useful today, because accidents happen and mom 'n pop Main street isn't raking in millions.
Do these stores even exist any more? Over here most of the old family businesses have been displaced by international chain stores. It's kind of eerie actually, barring a few well known landmarks and tourist magnets, no matter where you're shopping here, you see almost the exact same logos and storefronts.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Do these stores even exist any more? Over here most of the old family businesses have been displaced by international chain stores. It's kind of eerie actually, barring a few well known landmarks and tourist magnets, no matter where you're shopping here, you see almost the exact same logos and storefronts.
Tons of them still exist. Where I live we have antique stores, music stores, clothing stores, gaming stores, lots of restaurants (including taco trucks), a hardware store, even a couple book stores.
 

anna.

but mostly it's the same
Many companies that cut off donations to Republicans in Congress after January 6 have since abandoned those commitments, reportedly driven by concerns about losing influence with Republican lawmakers. This has been amplified by members of the Sedition Caucus threatening companies that cut them off. CREW has persistently called out the companies that have caved to this pressure for putting political access over the urgent need to take a stand for democracy. Instead of filling the campaign coffers of members who voted not to certify the election and continue to spread the Big Lie, corporations and industry groups should demand that these members renounce their votes and stop undermining our democracy.

It's always about the money.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
It looks to me that they have been moving to the left in the last four years at least. I don't know about longer.
The population of the U.S. has been moving left, while their government has been moving right.

Those in power know that they will be gone if people really get their way.
 
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