oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Where I live AIDs was carried far and wide by blood transfusions ......
Some women do have more than one partner, lover or mate.
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Legality of polygamy
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Some women do have more than one partner, lover or mate.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Let's not think of ways for single persons to have billions when so many have nothing.
Clever arguments to avoid good livings for all are simply wicked.
Large corporations typically pay no taxes, and rich people typically pay lower tax rates than those working for them.
firedragon
Veteran Member
Please try not to bring the Qur'an into this. conversation. Please read the OP. It is not about the details of polygamy. If you read, you will understand.
firedragon
Veteran Member
Good for you.
firedragon
Veteran Member
The problem is, you have no clue.
Perhaps an open marriage...I only hope that deceived spouses can find release in their own private ways, or better still, divorce and seize assets for future security.
I had several Muslim colleagues here (UK) and one had three wives....these wives were all friends together and didn't mind their husband staying with the others, in fact one of the wives preferred him to leave her alone if possible. I think that folks just assume how others feel about marriage, just applying their own ideas to all situations. As soon as polygamous-marriage wives are asked then a whole differing spectrum of answers come back. One colleague met his wife not long before their arranged marriage (she was the daughter of a very wealthy Pakistani businessman) and he explained to me that they just discussed their situation and got on with their new relationship....it budded in to a most loving couple with three children.
Sexual access or exclusivity is a very big deal among those of Abrahamic background. In other cultures, though, not so much. In some cultures sex its hardly a consideration at all, or may not be related to marriage.
Its a mistake to assume one's own culture represents universal values or patterns. Anthropology 101.
PruePhillip
Well-Known Member
Ok, take Musk.
He wanted to go to Mars. He made money by taking on the financial institutions with a
system call Paypal. He got shoved out of his own company. So he took that money and
created SpaceX. No rocket engineer wanted to work for him so he had to design his own
rocket (which is incredibly, frankly.) He lost three rockets in a row. Everyone, even NASA,
laughed at his idea of a private rocket in orbit. After rocket three he had no money and
said if number four fails, that's it. And then people laughed at his idea of landing a rocket,
even on a barge at sea.
And so on...
So should we take that SpaceX money off him and give it to people who did not in any
way contribute to his success?
It's the same with Tesla. Got to the stage where he couldn't pay wages, working seven
days a week, sleeping on factory floor, trying to raise capital, laughed at over his battery
car, busted his marriages......
Muslk lives in a 50k portable. No mansion, no yatch. Every last cent he puts back into his
company. He's the only one who can take on China auto.
Should we take that money off him? We could, and that's the way America is heading.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Yes.
This is one reason why it's best to exclude religion from national education curriculums and governments.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Rubbish.
PayPal was born through a need for eBay users to buy and sell, and then it became what it is now.
You can purchase almost anything with PayPal now. It had no competition, was not borne to take on anybody.
Taxation is not about taking everybody's money off them, it's about providing services to communities through taxation.
Musk just needs to pay taxes which I expect he does.
Rubbish.
All Tesla has to do is pay his taxes which he probably does!
Question:
Are you supporting the disgusting crimes of tax evasion, money laundering or do you support taxation to provide your education, health, police social services etc, oh, and all those massive war planes and ships.....or not?
PruePhillip
Well-Known Member
So here's a man dedicated to a vision of the future - owns no mansion, has
a 50k modular house, doesn't take many holidays and often sleeps in his
factories. He has a vision of an electrified society, self driving cars which
help with congestion and road tolls, is opening space to everyone, taking
mining and industry off earth, working on a road tunnel system, exploring
ideas to suck carbon out of the atmosphere and electric planes..... and
there's people, even in the Biden Admin who see him as disgusting, tax
evaders (he pays 55%) money launderer etc..
Bottom line, you hate him because he's rich and you are not.
As an aside, Paypal was created to pre-empt the big institutions like Visa,
Mastercard, American Express etc getting a monopoly. Musk and his team
prevented that.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
Rubbish.....
I have not even focused upon Tesla.
Let everyone pay their taxes.
Bottom line..... You seem to be encouraging tax evasion and money laundering. True?
Rubbish.
PayPal was created as a service to eBay users. That's why I joined with it. Excellent service.
I also bank with two main banks.
PruePhillip
Well-Known Member
Ha ha ha... you don't get what I am saying. Paypal was the first major on-line payment system.
Many thought someone like Visa would get there first. That doesn't mean there's no Visa !!!!!
Who said I support tax evasion? I am no Trump supporter. Musk, like most billionaires, pay
their taxes - we know that because of the massive tax receipts that fund most of the government.
Remember - top 5% pay 60%, and that isn't opinion, it's tax receipts.
On top of Musk's 55% (interview about this last week) his companies pay company taxes and his
growing army of workers pay income tax too. And I suppose there's luxury tax and sale tax too.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
You were saying that PayPal was set up against the banks. Totally daft
PayPal works with the banks. I have had over 1000 deals through PayPal and no probs.
So you support taxes and tax payment. So you hate the rich like you pretend that I do.
What rubbish.
Your government runs on trillions, not billions.
Everybody who pays taxes is supporting the government.
Give us all a big laugh. Tell us how you would collect taxes to fund your government.
PruePhillip
Well-Known Member
You were saying that PayPal was set up against the banks. Totally daft
PayPal works with the banks. I have had over 1000 deals through PayPal and no probs.
So you support taxes and tax payment. So you hate the rich like you pretend that I do.
What rubbish.
Your government runs on trillions, not billions.
Everybody who pays taxes is supporting the government.
Give us all a big laugh. Tell us how you would collect taxes to fund your government.
Sigh... you are changing the subject and the point. I didn't say Pay Pal isn't replacing banks. PP
works with many financial institutions - but these institutions didn't get to dominate the on-line
world like PP did.
The top 5% in USA pay over 2.2 Trillion dollars, according to the math.
I don't hate the poor, the middle or the rich. Don't hate anyone, even haters themselves.
Fallen Prophet
Well-Known Member
In my opinion? They are selfish cowards.
Men tend to take lovers when they aren't getting something they want/need from their spouse.
Rather than 1.) Talk to their spouse to work out the issue, or 2.) Decide that it isn't working and get a divorce, or 3.) Stick it out and try to find satisfaction in other (less selfish) ways - they cheat.
I'm sure it is - which is why I'm glad I will never have to worry about it.
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
I'm assuming you're referring to "Mormon splinter groups when you say this." The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has prohibited polygamy for something like 125 years now, and any member of the Church found to be involved in the practice today is promptly excommunicated. There are no exceptions. (And by the way, the distinction between the various splinter groups and the LDS Church is not the same as the distinction between Sunni and Sufi Muslims, both of whom accept the fact that they are all Muslim. It's more like the distinction between Roman Catholics and Lutherans.)
It is a practice that was handed down by tradition nothing more. There is no legal basis to polygamy by any religion or race.
firedragon
Veteran Member
Thats not really the question.
oldbadger
Skanky Old Mongrel!
You told us that Paypal was 'taking on' the banks!
You told us a load of waffle, as in post 148:-
PruePhillip said: ↑
Ok, take Musk.
He wanted to go to Mars. He made money by taking on the financial institutions with a
system call Paypal.
............ and now you are forced to agree with us how PP 'works with the financial institutions'.....
So what?
Ability and the gifted are able to be rich, whereas inability struggles for crumbs under the table. If you think that this is ok then you clearly don't understand what true humanity is all about.
Let them all eat cake?