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exchemist
Veteran Member
The sun has just set in Britain.
Going back towards Judaism? I saw your religion as HaShem.
Friday's just getting started here.
exchemist
Veteran Member
W Coast USA?
You're back to Noahidism?
Psalm23
Well-Known Member
Gargovic Malkav
Well-Known Member
I don't have a religion. I have a very bad albeit apparently somewhat stable relationship with HaShemShalom i'm glad you found the correct religion for you
Starlight
Spiritual but not religious, new age and omnist
Is not Noahidism part of Judaism?I don't have a religion. I have a very bad albeit apparently somewhat stable relationship with HaShem
Some might say that a bad relationship is better than no relationship at all.I have a very bad albeit apparently somewhat stable relationship with HaShem
Truthseeker
Non-debating member when I can help myself
Not really. According to Jews, Noahidism applies to everyone else. They are the supposed basic laws for everyone but Jews.
Don't listen to me, I just heard about this a couple of times. This is just my impression. All I know I don't remember reading these laws in the Bible.
Starlight
Spiritual but not religious, new age and omnist
Thanks for reply. What you wrote makes sense. the noahide laws is for anybody who is not a jew according to judaism yes.
I've often wondered why this is where I am, and trying to leave has never worked.
Often I complain about feeling lonely, not having any religious backing, no 'stuff', no worship house and so on - but it's not as though I haven't thought about these things in other ways. I have a deep attachment to and love for HaShem, which is good. And maybe it's selfish to want a group? Many times I've thought that, with Noachidism, in a way I got what I asked for. I've said this to others in the past and still think this way to myself occasionally. That I, upon abandoning Christianity with all of its (as I see them) contrivances, innovations, made up holidays and so on - that, in complaining about these things I was thrust out of them with admirable force.
Whilst on the extreme other hand I appreciated and liked going to church services, having rosaries and what not, I think I may have become overly attached to things like this, to services, rituals, books, trinkets, and in a way pedantic. I spent much of my time arguing over which denomination was right in a way that never served faith at all. It would have kind of served me right to give me a slap and tell me 'There's a G-d in Heaven!', as they say. It wasn't that I was completely disconnected from G-d, but on becoming a Noachide and abandoning all that stuff it was like a curtain was drawn and I felt closer to HaShem than ever before. It's possible that this is just what I need, and because discipline is hard, one kicks against it time and again. Mayhap this is even where my upset of the destruction of the churches came from, even though I don't really want them in Europe in the first place.
'But HaShem, I want my stuff! Where are my people!'
Perhaps these things are too distracting for me and that has multiple times proven to be the case. I become overly indulgent in schisms, pedantic about prayer rituals, and so on, in a way that was not rightly balanced with a meaningful spirituality. It's also possible that becoming Jewish may also lead me back on that path. With Noachidism, barren as it may seem, that barren land is actually ripe for growth. It's about cultivating what's good and rejecting the weeds that grasp at the bounty.
There are many folks out there who have a better relationship with G-d than anyone, simple people who may never have read a book in their lives. I'm not trying to discredit the scholars, the wisemen, the Rabbis, poskim, and others who are learned and such - these people can obviously have as rich a spirituality and depth of relationship with G-d as anyone. It's just likely that this isn't the path for me. It's a path for the men who HaShem chose for it and that's the way it should be. I need to learn to content myself with the fact that I could cultivate a wonderful, deep connexion with HaShem, absent all the 'stuff' that takes me out of the zone, if only I'd stop whining about all the things He didn't give me and concentrate on that which I know I'm capable of, that I need no-one else, no thing else, for. Yirat shamaim.
Often I complain about feeling lonely, not having any religious backing, no 'stuff', no worship house and so on - but it's not as though I haven't thought about these things in other ways. I have a deep attachment to and love for HaShem, which is good. And maybe it's selfish to want a group? Many times I've thought that, with Noachidism, in a way I got what I asked for. I've said this to others in the past and still think this way to myself occasionally. That I, upon abandoning Christianity with all of its (as I see them) contrivances, innovations, made up holidays and so on - that, in complaining about these things I was thrust out of them with admirable force.
Whilst on the extreme other hand I appreciated and liked going to church services, having rosaries and what not, I think I may have become overly attached to things like this, to services, rituals, books, trinkets, and in a way pedantic. I spent much of my time arguing over which denomination was right in a way that never served faith at all. It would have kind of served me right to give me a slap and tell me 'There's a G-d in Heaven!', as they say. It wasn't that I was completely disconnected from G-d, but on becoming a Noachide and abandoning all that stuff it was like a curtain was drawn and I felt closer to HaShem than ever before. It's possible that this is just what I need, and because discipline is hard, one kicks against it time and again. Mayhap this is even where my upset of the destruction of the churches came from, even though I don't really want them in Europe in the first place.
'But HaShem, I want my stuff! Where are my people!'
Perhaps these things are too distracting for me and that has multiple times proven to be the case. I become overly indulgent in schisms, pedantic about prayer rituals, and so on, in a way that was not rightly balanced with a meaningful spirituality. It's also possible that becoming Jewish may also lead me back on that path. With Noachidism, barren as it may seem, that barren land is actually ripe for growth. It's about cultivating what's good and rejecting the weeds that grasp at the bounty.
There are many folks out there who have a better relationship with G-d than anyone, simple people who may never have read a book in their lives. I'm not trying to discredit the scholars, the wisemen, the Rabbis, poskim, and others who are learned and such - these people can obviously have as rich a spirituality and depth of relationship with G-d as anyone. It's just likely that this isn't the path for me. It's a path for the men who HaShem chose for it and that's the way it should be. I need to learn to content myself with the fact that I could cultivate a wonderful, deep connexion with HaShem, absent all the 'stuff' that takes me out of the zone, if only I'd stop whining about all the things He didn't give me and concentrate on that which I know I'm capable of, that I need no-one else, no thing else, for. Yirat shamaim.
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