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Why do you try to discredit religions or religious people?

Yahcubs777

Active Member
I'm always troubled when I first realize that I may be talking to someone with real problems that could need real, professional help. Never quite sure how to respond.

Are you a doctor? Should i get the help you all have gotten, and still grow old and die? Is that what you want for me to do? Imagine, you all can't do anything about death, yet you prescribe me to get help. It is all of you that needs it seriously.
 

Gargovic Malkav

Well-Known Member
Are you a doctor? Should i get the help you all have gotten, and still grow old and die? Is that what you want for me to do? Imagine, you all can't do anything about death, yet you prescribe me to get help. It is all of you that needs it seriously.

How are you so sure that this Nigerian preacher who seems to fancy flamboyant outfits with lots of glitters speaks with God's authority, and is not some charlatan who just wants the praise and attention of people to feel important and loved?
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Having though a little longer on this topic -- and at the same time watching the news and trying to keep up with what's being said here and elsewhere in the world of the web -- I have something that I'd like to add...

Religion does, in fact, encourage unskeptical belief, at least in the things that the religion focuses on. But unskeptical belief can easily become a habit -- after all, it's so much less work than trying to uncover the truth, isn't it?

And this leads me to the propensity to belief in so many absurd "conspiracy theories" -- especially, I think, in the US. After all, how many Americans believe firmly that the 2020 election was "stolen" from Republicans? (For the record, it wasn't!) But they were told it was -- so of course they believe it, when if they really thought about it at all, they'd see such a notion is purest nonsense. And why do so many believe in the disproven "Qanon" theory? Obvious bunk, but once again, they were told by those they consider reliable sources, and therefore had zero need to look any further.

Wikipedia has a nice list of such conspiracy theories, which you can look at if you think it's a rare phenomenon. It's not!
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
No :) what i say is as a muslim one should look at the teaching og islam first, but if for example a muslim live in a non muslim country. He or she would have to look at the law og the country, and are if its possible to live by that law, without braking law of islam. So both rules are valid. But a muslim may have to be more careful in how they act.

And some muslim law can not be implimented in not muslim country

This is just an elaborate way of saying islam gets priority and that the muslim should simply follow what islam says, regardless of secular law...

When you say that secular law should only be followed if it is compatible with islam, then that really just means: follow islam and forget about secular law. You'ld be in line with secular law as long as it is compatible with islam by default. It's not like you have to make an extra effort for that. So it's meaningless to express it like that.

Obviously the question of which law to follow, is only relevant in instances where secular and islamic law are in conflict.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Your opinion is noted.
Doesn't change the facts off course.
They claim to be muslims, but are they actually doing what Allah tell muslims to do?
Do they try to better them self and the world around them? (in my understanding of islam, it is to better one self and make this world a better place to live, through the practice)
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
This is just an elaborate way of saying islam gets priority and that the muslim should simply follow what islam says, regardless of secular law...

When you say that secular law should only be followed if it is compatible with islam, then that really just means: follow islam and forget about secular law. You'ld be in line with secular law as long as it is compatible with islam by default. It's not like you have to make an extra effort for that. So it's meaningless to express it like that.

Obviously the question of which law to follow, is only relevant in instances where secular and islamic law are in conflict.
I spoke here of course only of my understanding of it, others may hold different view and understanding than me, and that is fine too.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Gone
Premium Member
How are you so sure that this Nigerian preacher who seems to fancy flamboyant outfits with lots of glitters speaks with God's authority, and is not some charlatan who just wants the praise and attention of people to feel important and loved?
Lol, he's Nigerian? Is he a prince, too?.:D Tons of scams coming from that land.
 
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