Question about the socalled "path"

For many years i been reading different religious scriptures (no expert on them) But one thing i notice is that it is often spoken about "spiritual path" and i been thinking about this "path" and where it actually leads.

the answers i had over years have changed depending on what i have picked up or understood from what other people have written,

But every time, the answer that come back to me is "the path always lead back to your own being"
The "goal" is not far away in front of you... or is it?
The answers is not far away in the future.... or is it?
Right where you are now. that is where you will be when you realize the truth. You travel in time in your life, you age, and become older. but the answer you looking for will never be in front of you or behind you. the answer (spiritually/religious) is always within you.

But why does it feels like walking through a thick bush and only getting a peek of the truth you seeking?? that is a question i have asked my self a lot lately....

So why call it a path, if the answers always can be realized from within

Path to yourself.

I understand it as the route you have to take to attain your goal. It can be called a path because its a familiar word

Rival said:

Path to yourself.

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Could it be called the path to God, when we realize what god is from within our own being? this is also questions i have started asking my self

Conscious thoughts said:

Could it be called the path to God, when we realize what god is from within our own being? this is also questions i have started asking my self

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As I see it it goes both ways. We know God internally and externally. We couldn't have one without the other. So I guess it's more like a dual carriageway.

Rival said:

As I see it it goes both ways. We know God internally and externally. We couldn't have one without the other. So I guess it's more like a dual carriageway.

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That sounds about right

Conscious thoughts said:

For many years i been reading different religious scriptures (no expert on them) But one thing i notice is that it is often spoken about "spiritual path" and i been thinking about this "path" and where it actually leads.

the answers i had over years have changed depending on what i have picked up or understood from what other people have written,

But every time, the answer that come back to me is "the path always lead back to your own being"
The "goal" is not far away in front of you... or is it?
The answers is not far away in the future.... or is it?
Right where you are now. that is where you will be when you realize the truth. You travel in time in your life, you age, and become older. but the answer you looking for will never be in front of you or behind you. the answer (spiritually/religious) is always within you.

But why does it feels like walking through a thick bush and only getting a peek of the truth you seeking?? that is a question i have asked my self a lot lately....

So why call it a path, if the answers always can be realized from within

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Never really thought about the spiritual path that you talk about, but sort of make sense I guess. Just out of curiosity, what do you seek? or what do you hope to find?

Nimos said:

Never really thought about the spiritual path that you talk about, but sort of make sense I guess. Just out of curiosity, what do you seek? or what do you hope to find?

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The answer to your question of today is, i seek Allah

If you asked med the same question earlier in life, i would answer, truth, no self, happiness, end of attachments and many many other words that would describ what i looked for.

But realizing that it is enough to seek Allah that was a realization that was good, because in Allah everything i was seeking earlier is there.

Conscious thoughts said:

The answer to your question of today is, i seek Allah

If you asked med the same question earlier in life, i would answer, truth, no self, happiness, end of attachments and many many other words that would describ what i looked for.

But realizing that it is enough to seek Allah that was a realization that was good, because in Allah everything i was seeking earlier is there.

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But don't you do that through praying? or do you mean like a response from him, a sign, guidances? Said in another way, what or how do you know when you have found it, what is the criteria?

Conscious thoughts said:

Could it be called the path to God, when we realize what god is from within our own being? this is also questions i have started asking my self

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yes

Conscious thoughts said:

For many years i been reading different religious scriptures (no expert on them) But one thing i notice is that it is often spoken about "spiritual path" and i been thinking about this "path" and where it actually leads.

the answers i had over years have changed depending on what i have picked up or understood from what other people have written,

But every time, the answer that come back to me is "the path always lead back to your own being"
The "goal" is not far away in front of you... or is it?
The answers is not far away in the future.... or is it?
Right where you are now. that is where you will be when you realize the truth. You travel in time in your life, you age, and become older. but the answer you looking for will never be in front of you or behind you. the answer (spiritually/religious) is always within you.

But why does it feels like walking through a thick bush and only getting a peek of the truth you seeking?? that is a question i have asked my self a lot lately....

So why call it a path, if the answers always can be realized from within

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I did a drawing on this question awhile back. Though, it will look like a children's picture if I posted it, ha.

I compared path and journey to skating and running. In skating, we go around in the circle to music. In running, we have options to trail run in the woods, go by street, or (how boring!) run by treadmill.

Skate is the journey.
Running is the destination.

They are both within. How so?

Take skating. When I go around in a circle to music, I am myself. Basically (if comparing spiritually), I'm intuned with myself. Say god is the music and the expression of god is the twirls and tricks and gliding. I'm one with life, dodging negativity or when I fall, I get up and skate again.

The path/goal is cultivating within. It's perfecting and improving your technique regardless how many people are on the floor and what music is playing. When you get tired as you age, one day, you have to get off the floor. But the act was worth it.

Take running. When I run, I put on my shoes, clothes, and grab some water. I'm preparing (spiritually) for the path I'm heading on. Let's say my goal/path is to run five miles across town (I wish!) Once I get to the end, what have I learned? During the way, I learned how to pace myself. I learned patience. I learned to dodge the cars and look ahead of me. I learn to stop when I'm tired and speed up with energy. I learn that it is okay to walk sometimes. I learn not to go overboard. I cultivated myself within while heading to my destination. Once I get to the destination, I stop, look around, be grateful and energized. We are all on the destination in life and if we decide to see it as a destination, that end or end state (heaven, moksha, so be), it becomes a motivation to cultivate within, through belief, action, practice, so have you.

The path has different levels of understanding depending on if you're cultivating to get to live in the future (heaven, so have you), or cultivating to live in the present (finding and living spiritual awakening).

The weird thing is, skating is just going in a circle. So, you're seeing the same scenery (or stepping in the same river) but never in the same spot. So, it may get boring. We wake up-life is a cycle.

In regards to path vs within. It just depends on how you want to live. In US, we're goal/running oriented. But, either or, its still the same. They're sports.

Enjoy the read

Nimos said:

But don't you do that through praying? or do you mean like a response from him, a sign, guidances? Said in another way, what or how do you know when you have found it, what is the criteria?

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The prayer is a part of worshiping Allah, but in my understanding also a call to say, that I am ready to serve.
The answers is always there, but if we as humans do not pay attention, we can not hear, see or feel the answers from Allah. the practice of the teaching is the opener to Allah.

How do i know if Allah has given an answer? one example can be the wisdom that arise from within, the new understanding of the teaching, or a new way to look at the world and see the sign written about in the teaching.
In my current understanding Allah is in everything also in the physical world (he created it so it is a part of Allah)
Of course the part of Allah created the world that is a view of islam, so example other religions will call it differently, or science will see it from a science point of view, and that is ok too

Unveiled Artist said:

I did a drawing on this question awhile back. Though, it will look like a children's picture if I posted it, ha.

I compared path and journey to skating and running. In skating, we go around in the circle to music. In running, we have options to trail run in the woods, go by street, or (how boring!) run by treadmill.

Skate is the journey.
Running is the destination.

They are both within. How so?

Take skating. When I go around in a circle to music, I am myself. Basically (if comparing spiritually), I'm intuned with myself. Say god is the music and the expression of god is the twirls and tricks and gliding. I'm one with life, dodging negativity or when I fall, I get up and skate again.

The path/goal is cultivating within. It's perfecting and improving your technique regardless how many people are on the floor and what music is playing. When you get tired as you age, one day, you have to get off the floor. But the act was worth it.

Take running. When I run, I put on my shoes, clothes, and grab some water. I'm preparing (spiritually) for the path I'm heading on. Let's say my goal/path is to run five miles across town (I wish!) Once I get to the end, what have I learned? During the way, I learned how to pace myself. I learned patience. I learned to dodge the cars and look ahead of me. I learn to stop when I'm tired and speed up with energy. I learn that it is okay to walk sometimes. I learn not to go overboard. I cultivated myself within while heading to my destination. Once I get to the destination, I stop, look around, be grateful and energized. We are all on the destination in life and if we decide to see it as a destination, that end or end state (heaven, moksha, so be), it becomes a motivation to cultivate within, through belief, action, practice, so have you.

The path has different levels of understanding depending on if you're cultivating to get to live in the future (heaven, so have you), or cultivating to live in the present (skating until you're tired).

The weird thing is, skating is just going in a circle. So, you're seeing the same scenery (or stepping in the same river) but never in the same spot. So, it may get boring. We wake up-life is a cycle.

In regards to path vs within. It just depends on how you want to live. In US, we're goal/running oriented. But, either or, its still the same. They're sports.

Enjoy the read

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Thank you for sharing this @Unveiled Artist, i like the way you use known aspects of daily life to explain your understanding

Conscious thoughts said:

Thank you for sharing this @Unveiled Artist, i like the way you use known aspects of daily life to explain your understanding

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That's the best way, in my opinion, to get spirituality. When you see it as a theology, it's nice to learn but not personal. When you reflect on your experiences, observations, even dreams and relate it to scripture, practice, so have you, it becomes fact. Not because of scripture or tradition but your experiences that align with it rather than the other way around. Thanks.

Conscious thoughts said:

But why does it feels like walking through a thick bush and only getting a peek of the truth you seeking?? that is a question i have asked my self a lot lately....

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Conscious thoughts said:

So why call it a path, if the answers always can be realized from within

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To me, the first quote of yours answers the second. Our experience is often as you've described - as "walking..."

Others use the metaphor of "polishing the mirror of the heart" instead of 'walking the path'. There's a Rumi teaching story to that effect Stories from Rumi (Myth-Folklore Online)

As a human we think. Are complete. Whole created and experiencing.

With out any separated teachings which are false confusing and cause argument.

Natural whole forms
Natural balanced forms.

We walk everywhere as humans. Life is heavenly recorded. Psychics told you this truth. So did science by machines the atmosphere records voice image feedbacks a secondary advice.

So you are told you walk paths.

Which can alter mind agreed natural.perceptions.

Also mind proven in science states. Mind contact. Mind coercion.

We are naturally human. Naturally spiritual. Basic survival by living mutual family human supported group advice.

Introduced problem the machine human designed sciences that disturbed natural spirituality.

Choice of designer man inventor

Conscious thoughts said:

For many years i been reading different religious scriptures (no expert on them) But one thing i notice is that it is often spoken about "spiritual path" and i been thinking about this "path" and where it actually leads.

the answers i had over years have changed depending on what i have picked up or understood from what other people have written,

But every time, the answer that come back to me is "the path always lead back to your own being"
The "goal" is not far away in front of you... or is it?
The answers is not far away in the future.... or is it?
Right where you are now. that is where you will be when you realize the truth. You travel in time in your life, you age, and become older. but the answer you looking for will never be in front of you or behind you. the answer (spiritually/religious) is always within you.

But why does it feels like walking through a thick bush and only getting a peek of the truth you seeking?? that is a question i have asked my self a lot lately....

So why call it a path, if the answers always can be realized from within

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These are some Writings of Baha’u’llah addressed to Sufi mystics which go right into depth.

Two works written in Baghdad after Bahá’u’lláh returned from Kurdistan in 1856. The Seven Valleys and the Four Valleys were addressed to Sufi mystics with whom He had been in contact in Sulaymáníyyih. These works are part of the publication Call of the Divine Beloved.


https://www.bahai.org/library/autho...vine-beloved/call-divine-beloved.pdf?b3982d7e

loverofhumanity said:

These are some Writings of Baha’u’llah addressed to Sufi mystics which go right into depth.

Two works written in Baghdad after Bahá’u’lláh returned from Kurdistan in 1856. The Seven Valleys and the Four Valleys were addressed to Sufi mystics with whom He had been in contact in Sulaymáníyyih. These works are part of the publication Call of the Divine Beloved.


https://www.bahai.org/library/autho...vine-beloved/call-divine-beloved.pdf?b3982d7e

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Spirit memories human own the quote
Beloved.

Once no creation or space existed. Empty space proves it is the removed burnt eternal mass. God O mass bodies were held as mass bodies burning by O sung out origin.

Spiritual story why creation as mass existed. Term O gods. Suns and planets.

Then the human memory says due to heavens once burnt eternal cooled gas spirit as mass was put back into emptied out space. Spirit in eternal that still exists was released again.

Where we came from as storytellers.

Our presence a copy of why God existed released. Yet we did not exist as God or history God in space.

So multi spirit eternal bodies as spirits were released from same place. Again.

Parent human spiritual memories the two selves totally beloved. First humans. A memory recorded.

His story said brothers a group in history were stuck in manifesting demanifesting bodies. Reason daylight kept changing heavens Reason to manifest.

Nature garden was fixed.

Man spirit not fixed.

Invented science to time shift form back to eternal

Obvious you cannot return to a higher state.

Animal spirit formed in science in that incident when heavens changed.

Then new man as father came out hearing our human mother manifesting after him.

Reason his man spirit was stuck manifesting as the history to the human spirit question WHY.

What did spirit do to inherit such an evil existence.

We gave ourselves the answer why.

So when life is personally human changed we hear our spiritual human parents memories.

They were the beloved selves. Natural.

Ask a human why they believe we came from a place of spirit. Memory recorded we did.

If science says cells formed in life as science human from an ape body. That discussion is science.

If science said the human cells manifested form their own selves inside water mass heavens they are just referring to human memory.

Reason you think God a scientist. As man scientist changed natural history his own self first. The creator of it.

WHY.
Female answer.
W end Y.

H symbol terrestrial magnetism changed.

I owned a mother female human answer to the spiritual question.

Conscious thoughts said:

But why does it feels like walking through a thick bush and only getting a peek of the truth you seeking??

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When it happens to me, it's usually because I'm distracted by my own desires and expectations.
But once I become aware again of the insignificance of my own person and accept that, the thick bush can turn into an escalator.

Conscious thoughts said:

.....the answer (spiritually/religious) is always within you.

But why does it feels like walking through a thick bush and only getting a peek of the truth you seeking?? that is a question i have asked my self a lot lately....

So why call it a path, if the answers always can be realized from within

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Because, IMO, as imperfect people, we can’t rely on ourselves.

(That’s why there are so many different paths! And oftentimes, these paths disagree!)

Proverbs 3:5-6 states,”....do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways take notice of Him, and He Himself will set your paths straight.”)

The Great Congregator — King Solomon — put it even more bluntly at Ecclesiastes 12:13....”The conclusion of the matter, everything having been heard, is: Fear the True God, and keep His commandments. For this is the whole obligation for man.”

(If Yahweh / Jehovah is our Creator, and as such, our Father, then His way for us would be the most beneficial way to live. And what does the evidence show?That, as peoples’ lifestyles drift further and further away from the Bible’s sound counsel (on sex and other issues), there are more and more dysfunctional individuals and families to be observed in this selfish world than ever before! People are hurting themselves.)

That’s how I see it.

Take care, my friend.