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How can the JW's reject Joseph Smith
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Unveiled Artist
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I heard curiosity killed the cat
Cooky
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I find that hard to believe, considering a number of other bad habits cat's have.
Some guy named Joe Smith had a visit from an angel (named Moroni....*deleted by moderator*) in the woods who gave him these golden tablets which no one else apparently ever saw, and which do not exist anywhere.
From what was written on the tablets, he wrote about Jesus visiting the USA and nations of people there that no one has ever heard of....and of which there is no trace, archeologically speaking.
He plagiarizes the KJV in his writings and claims them as his own. Do angels speak and write in archaic English?
I guess that's why.....?
Mormons and JW's have nothing in common......we have nothing in common with Christendom either....
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Cooky
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I hope I didn't offend. Deep down, I have a great love for the Mormons.
LOL...I figured it was a tongue-in-cheek thread and posted accordingly.....sorry you took it so seriously.....
Especially the crack about the blood transfusions......nice touch. No child of ours is ever put at risk because of our refusing a blood transfusion.....just so you know. It is now pretty much an outdated and dangerous procedure....so we have probably saved more lives by avoiding them. It is God's law after all.
Here's a video for you.....https://www.blood.gov.au/media
Nothing to do with JW's.
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
No, Cooky. You didn't offend. I just didn't get the point of your thread. Maybe you could explain what you were actually looking for in the way of debate, because all this thread is really going to do is give the JWs an excuse to do what they do best, and we all know what that is.
Cooky
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Sorry about that. I was just doing a copycat thread, like someone else was doing about a question asked of Jewish people. But my luck is that I always get caught-up in the naughty stuff I do.
I got bad luck.
Cooky
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LOL...I figured it was a tongue-in-cheek thread and posted accordingly.....sorry you took it so seriously.....
Especially the crack about the blood transfusions......nice touch. No child of ours is ever put at risk because of our refusing a blood transfusion.....just so you know. It is now pretty much an outdated and dangerous procedure....so we have probably saved more lives by avoiding them. It is God's law after all.
Here's a video for you.....https://www.blood.gov.au/media
Nothing to do with JW's.
I'm glad you recognized this was a joke thread, but leave them Mormons alone..! IMO...
I’m sorry, I treated it like a joke thread......but seriously, who leaves us alone?I'm glad you recognized this was a joke thread, but leave them Mormons alone..! IMO...
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
Here's my answer to how the JWs can reject Joseph Smith...
They would be likely to do so for a number of different reasons. First of all, Joseph Smith would have never condoned a parent allowing a child to die when that child's life could have been saved by a blood transfusion. Secondly, Joseph Smith would have never told anyone to shun a family member who left the faith. Thirdly, Joseph Smith would have stressed that we try to share our own beliefs without belittling or judging people who see things differently.
They would be likely to do so for a number of different reasons. First of all, Joseph Smith would have never condoned a parent allowing a child to die when that child's life could have been saved by a blood transfusion. Secondly, Joseph Smith would have never told anyone to shun a family member who left the faith. Thirdly, Joseph Smith would have stressed that we try to share our own beliefs without belittling or judging people who see things differently.
Fallen Prophet
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I know this is an old thread - but most of what you should said about Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon is factually inaccurate.Some guy named Joe Smith had a visit from an angel (named Moroni....*deleted by moderator*) in the woods who gave him these golden tablets which no one else apparently ever saw, and which do not exist anywhere.
From what was written on the tablets, he wrote about Jesus visiting the USA and nations of people there that no one has ever heard of....and of which there is no trace, archeologically speaking.
He plagiarizes the KJV in his writings and claims them as his own. Do angels speak and write in archaic English?
I guess that's why.....?
Mormons and JW's have nothing in common......we have nothing in common with Christendom either....
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
She knows. She just doesn't care.
Did you know that 100% of what you just said about JW’s is factually inaccurate.....guess that makes us even.
Apparently you don’t either.
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
Oh really? So you do permit blood transfusions and you don't shun family members who have left the faith? I'm so glad to hear that I was wrong about those things.Did you know that 100% of what you just said about JW’s is factually inaccurate.....guess that makes us even.
You are wrong about those things but apparently you didn't ever read my explanations.
The funny thing is....I already gave you a full run down on the blood transfusion issue....just view the video, it will tell you all you need to know from the medical profession, not JW's.
This is from the Australian government....
https://www.blood.gov.au/media
On the subject of shunning.....we do not shun family members who leave the faith...we shun anyone who breaks God's law unrepentantly, which may include family members because our loyalty to God comes before our loyalty to them. Those who are not sorry for their behavior or who try to blame someone else for their actions are 'disfellowshipped' just as they were in the first century. Read all about it....
Here it is from the KJV.....1 Corinthians 5:9-13....
"I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.
11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person."
Any church who tolerates the presence of unrepentant sinners in full fellowship is arguing against the first century model and denying the reasons for why it was implemented. How do you get the message across that they are not welcome to bring their sin into God's house of worship? It is designed not just to punish, but to allow that individual to feel the loss of fellowship because of their own actions and hopefully to repent and come back to us.
Those who are shepherds are to "judge" those "inside" the congregation, whilst God judges those "outside".
Remember the Prodigal son? Did the father chase after him? Did he plead with him not to leave? NO! He gave him what he asked for and let him go, to experience the full ramifications of what he was doing. Only when he had squandered his whole inheritance and his so called friend deserted him, did he "come to his senses". His return home was the complete opposite of when he left. He was chastened and humbled by the experience and repented of his actions......the father thus welcomed him home. We do the same.
Fallen Prophet
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I don't really care about the JW stuff. I just know that you don't know Joseph Smith and Book of Mormon stuff.Did you know that 100% of what you just said about JW’s is factually inaccurate.....guess that makes us even.
Apparently you don’t either.
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