Even if they are dressed????
Let me be very clear here. Do you think that clothed women should not be in public?
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Where's the wrong in nudity in public?
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Even if they are dressed????
Let me be very clear here. Do you think that clothed women should not be in public?
MonkeyFire
Well-Known Member
Haha sorry, I misread that. I believe females can be in public as long as they have their trousers on.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Not really; although if you had a body like mine, ...
Even Gandhi felt that nudity per se was not a problem, and hiding parts of our body just makes an erotic game out of it. Indeed, psychological studies have shown that a person is generally sexier partially covered than in the buff.
For example, with the woman it sorta looks that maybe she had a bad accident, and with the man it sorta looks like God was just sorta joking around.
Good-Ole-Rebel
Well-Known Member
I have considered this question of where comes the wrong of nudity in public. What do the evolutionist's say?
Most evolutionist's I know wear clothes. Why? I thought evolution was always for the better to survive. Why would an animal evolve into losing a hide and coat perfectly fitted for his environment and turn into a human that needed to find clothing as his skin was not able to survive the environment?
And, where does this sense of 'shame' come from in being nude in public. I am not saying it is not there, it is. But where does it come from. Animals don't have it. They crap and have sex anywhere they want. But man has a sense of shame in this area. Where does it come from?
Good-Ole-Rebel
Most evolutionist's I know wear clothes. Why? I thought evolution was always for the better to survive. Why would an animal evolve into losing a hide and coat perfectly fitted for his environment and turn into a human that needed to find clothing as his skin was not able to survive the environment?
And, where does this sense of 'shame' come from in being nude in public. I am not saying it is not there, it is. But where does it come from. Animals don't have it. They crap and have sex anywhere they want. But man has a sense of shame in this area. Where does it come from?
Good-Ole-Rebel
Humans are adapted for distance running in the African savanna. Most of us no longer live there, so we used our brains to fashion clothes to protect us from the elements. That eliminated (well, reduced) the need for the slower action of natural selection to come into play.
Well, the fact that different cultures see different aspects as shameful points to it being largely cultural. People tend to adopt the conventions of the culture they grow up in. And that includes clothing and cultural views of nudity, as well as feelings of shame. A LOT can be associated with the Abrahamic religions. Until they were introduced, the feelings associated with nudity were generally a LOT less uptight. But Abrahamic religions have a 'thing' about both sex and nudity.
Clothing protects against the elements. It’s also more hygienic in general, which would obviously be a concern nowadays.
Nudist beaches, nudists clubs, your own home. These are places where you can not dress to your heart’s content. Nobody will care. But in public, after so many a health crisis, pandemics etc I don’t see why one would strut around nude. Unless you’re an out and out exhibitionist. Not that I particularly care if someone does walk around nude in public. Just seems to be asking for a disease these days, though.
You're the one who said you're trying to be straight.. [my emphasis]
You can turn away your eyes if you don't like what you see in public.
Assuming there isn't a need to protect oneself against the elements, what would you say to partial nudity (keeping one's butt-hole, genitals and nearby areas covered, at least notionally) in public then, where there perhaps aren't the same sorts of hygiene concerns that you are worried about?
Isn’t that just beachwear? Meh
So no concerns with women as well as men going topless in public?
Not particularly. Might elicit some nervous giggles from some folk. Perhaps a few rude stares. But I mean I don’t particularly care myself. America is supposedly more prudish than most western countries, though.
MonkeyFire
Well-Known Member
I don't want to see it, and neither do my children.
OK, you got your vote. Let's see how others vote and settle the matter.
MonkeyFire
Well-Known Member
you can not subject me and my dear children to that filth. I'm pretty sure that what a legislature is for. When they need to tell Democrats no. Why I am now an independent.
Skwim
Veteran Member
How do you know? Did you ask them? My bet is that watching nude people in public would fascinate them.
Curious as to why you feel the naked body is filth. Is that how you feel about your naked body; its filth? How about the naked bodies of your children; they're filth? If not, why would the naked body of a stranger be filth?
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Many people don't consider it to be filth. They consider it to be natural and beautiful. It isn't a Rep vs Dem vs Indep thing. It is a question of whether you consider the human body to shameful or not.
I do not.
I presume you mean you don't want your children to see it?
Erebus
Well-Known Member
I'm all for public nudity. Mainly because I think it would be hilarious to see nudists deal with UK weather.
Here's a quick rundown of what an hour long walk in the summer is like:
0-10 minutes: Bright and sunny
10-20 minutes: Overcast and cold
20-30 minutes: Bright and sunny
30-50 minutes: Thunderstorm
50-60 minutes: Snow
Here's a quick rundown of what an hour long walk in the summer is like:
0-10 minutes: Bright and sunny
10-20 minutes: Overcast and cold
20-30 minutes: Bright and sunny
30-50 minutes: Thunderstorm
50-60 minutes: Snow
MonkeyFire
Well-Known Member
I AM A STRAIGHT MALE. Its gross and if you cant get that we will have problems.
I am not ashamed with my body, I only feel ashamed by you directing your nudity towards me my wife and my children. I'm only ashamed by you ruining the sanctity of faith in love.
I dont make assumptions, but you crossing the line.
I don't see what is gross about it.
More interesting is why you think being a straight male is relevant (I am also straight and see no problem with it).
You have previously said that female nudity would be 'even worse'. Could you explain why?
It wouldn't be directed at you or your any more than my wearing clothes is so directed. It has nothing to do with you.
Again, I fail to see how that is happening. The sanctity of faith and love has *nothing* that I can see that concerns other people being naked.
What line?