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A huge problem with the JW religion:

sojourner

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
kjw47 said:
And the wise know Gods view of a cult--Mark 3:24-26--A house divided( 34,000 trinity religions) will NOT stand--They fail this true mark-100%--1Cor 1:10--unity of thought-no division----Again your teachers cannot understand English.
Light does not enter darkness--If you call the written word of God a myth--you live in darkness.
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But, of course, your cult isn't one of the 34,000. Even though it doesn't stand in the apostolic tradition. No, this is nothing more than deflection. What you fail to realize is that "unity of thought" doesn't mean "uniformity of thought." We are all firmly in accord in the thought that God is God and that Jesus is Lord. The differences are just window-dressing and personal preference. The group that insists on uniform "group-think" is not honoring unity at all. It's honoring dictatorship. True unity brings people together in their diversity. As Paul says: "Love does not insist on its own way."

The problem with myth is precisely this: That's what the texts are. Myth is a name of a genre of literature. Many of the biblical texts fit the definition of mythic genre. That's simply what they are, and no amount of "faith" or wishful thinking can change that fact. The problem here is that you cannot understand the English that identifies genres of literature. Therefore, you are the one who is "living in darkness."
 
kjw47

kjw47

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sojourner said:
Acts 3:19 says nothing of the sort. Acts 3 never mentions "orthodoxy."
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No it clearly teaches--that one must repent to get sins blotted out. So obviously if one does not repent its as Paul teaches--No sacrifice for any who practice a sin--The only sacrifice was made by Jesus covering sins. One must repent.
 
kjw47

kjw47

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Subduction Zone said:
That is not a view of a cult. You should look up the traits of a cult.

And it is blasphemous to try to claim that the Bible is the written word of God. Why would you call your God an incompetent evil egomaniac?
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You mean a description made by man. Gods description is best.
 
kjw47

kjw47

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sojourner said:
And yet John says that God didn't send God's Son in order to condemn the world, but that the world through him might be saved. And the qualifier isn't "repentance," it's "belief." Further, Romans insists that the righteousness of God comes through the faith of Jesus Christ. And Paul insists that our unfaithfulness will not nullify God's faithfulness.


My high school band director always said, "Practice doesn't make perfect; only perfecet practice makes perfect." 50 years of wrong study will get you nowhere.
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Yes might be saved. The problem is there is no trinity God in existence, they teach a false Jesus. Paul clearly teaches---There is no sacrifice left for any who practice a sin. He did not contradict himself. False reasoning of men makes the contradiction.
Here is what Jesus says about that--At Matthew 7:21-23-- He says--GET AWAY FROM ME you worker of iniquity( lawlessness= a practice of sin or willfull sin) --I MUST CONFESS I NEVER EVEN KNEW YOU--- this is judgement scenario.
 
kjw47

kjw47

Well-Known Member
sojourner said:
But, of course, your cult isn't one of the 34,000. Even though it doesn't stand in the apostolic tradition. No, this is nothing more than deflection. What you fail to realize is that "unity of thought" doesn't mean "uniformity of thought." We are all firmly in accord in the thought that God is God and that Jesus is Lord. The differences are just window-dressing and personal preference. The group that insists on uniform "group-think" is not honoring unity at all. It's honoring dictatorship. True unity brings people together in their diversity. As Paul says: "Love does not insist on its own way."

The problem with myth is precisely this: That's what the texts are. Myth is a name of a genre of literature. Many of the biblical texts fit the definition of mythic genre. That's simply what they are, and no amount of "faith" or wishful thinking can change that fact. The problem here is that you cannot understand the English that identifies genres of literature. Therefore, you are the one who is "living in darkness."
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What apostolic tradition? They all taught--Jesus has a God-his Father.( 2Cor 1:3, 1Cor 8:6, 2Cor 11:12-15, 1Peter 1:3--Rev 1:6 That's no tradition its fact. Jesus even tells you--John 20:17, Rev 3:12-- You wont believe Jesus.
 
sojourner

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
kjw47 said:
No it clearly teaches--that one must repent to get sins blotted out. So obviously if one does not repent its as Paul teaches--No sacrifice for any who practice a sin--The only sacrifice was made by Jesus covering sins. One must repent.
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But you said that it refutes orthodoxy. It never mentions orthodoxy. You’re confused.
 
sojourner

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
kjw47 said:
Yes might be saved. The problem is there is no trinity God in existence, they teach a false Jesus. Paul clearly teaches---There is no sacrifice left for any who practice a sin. He did not contradict himself. False reasoning of men makes the contradiction.
Here is what Jesus says about that--At Matthew 7:21-23-- He says--GET AWAY FROM ME you worker of iniquity( lawlessness= a practice of sin or willfull sin) --I MUST CONFESS I NEVER EVEN KNEW YOU--- this is judgement scenario.
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Your interpretations are flimsy and slipshod.
 
sojourner

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
kjw47 said:
What apostolic tradition? They all taught--Jesus has a God-his Father.( 2Cor 1:3, 1Cor 8:6, 2Cor 11:12-15, 1Peter 1:3--Rev 1:6 That's no tradition its fact. Jesus even tells you--John 20:17, Rev 3:12-- You wont believe Jesus.
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If you don’t know about the apostolic tradition it’s no wonder your arguments against other expressions of Xy are so disingenuous. You don’t even know exactly what you’re arguing against, so you’re just parroting what your indoctrinators have drilled into you. If your group intentionally stands outside other, more traditional groups, then you’re standing outside the apostolic tradition. And that makes YOU the splitters, not the other groups.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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kjw47 said:
You mean a description made by man. Gods description is best.
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I am sorry, but the Bible is not "God's description". Not even he Bible makes that error. I am sorry that you do not even understand your book of myths. You are trying to force a false interpretation of it. From a Christian perspective that is blasphemy as well.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
kjw47 said:
You must have missed revelation passing before your eyes. Its nearing its conclusion for this system.
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You mean the book of the Bible that caused your sect to foolishly claim that the end of the world was here at least four times? You do realize that there are records of this, don't you?
 
sojourner

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
kjw47 said:
No it clearly teaches--that one must repent to get sins blotted out. So obviously if one does not repent its as Paul teaches--No sacrifice for any who practice a sin--The only sacrifice was made by Jesus covering sins. One must repent.
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But you said that the passage refuted orthodoxy. That’s what you said. Clearly, it does not do that.
 
tas8831

tas8831

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Flame said:
When I was growing up in New Jersey I had a friend whose family are JWs. Senior year of HS he told his family he was no longer JW and was kicked out of house. He spent the last 5 months of school living with us. Last I heard he's had zero contact with his family despite attempts to reach out.
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So loving...
When you advertise that your belief system is all about love and an All Loving God and all this, and then you kick your own kid out for not sharing its "belief system', it says an awful lot about the nature of that belief system and its effect on its... members...
 
kjw47

kjw47

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sojourner said:
You guys made this ridiculous prediction in 1914 too. Over 100 years ago. Not buying it.
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Rev 6 was those events. We are way past that. It is close.The generation of 1914-1919 will see Har-mageddon come to earth. They are very old.
 
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