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Gay marriage will destroy heterosexual marriages? Not so, says the facts....
- Thread starter Green Gaia
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Feathers in Hair
World's Tallest Hobbit
Sunstone said:
Oh puh-leeze! He should be the one carrying your love child!
Green Gaia
Veteran Member
jmoum said:
Actually the authors' caution here about gay marriage as a boon to heterosexual marriage is warranted. Correlation is not causation, and it would presume too much from a mere correlation to conclude that a small number of gay marriages in these societies had a significant positive impact on marriage itself, just as it would presume too much from the opposite correlation (if one existed) that they had a significant negative effect on marriage. But it is at least possible from these numbers to say that gay marriage has not led to any significant harm to marriage as an institution. ~ Dale Carpenter
Pah
Uber all member
Do you think that proponents of banning gay marriage will also propose a constitutional amendment to prohibit divorce or re-marriage. That would bring truth to "one man - one woman" Do you think that after proponents "take care of" the very low percent of gays wanting to be married, they will direct their attention to unmarrieds or remarrieds? http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41024jewscout said:
Green Gaia
Veteran Member
I didn't intend to misrepresent the numbers. I assumed people would read the entire article, which could not post in it's entirety here within the standards of Fair Use.jmoum said:Thank you. That's exactly the kind of statement I was looking for.
I hate it when people misrepresents numbers (whether it's intentional or unintentional), no matter what the cause is. Usually because I fall for it and end up looking like and idiot because of it later. But hey, I'm only human. Or am I . . . :areyoucra
pdoel
Active Member
Organizations such as Focus on the Family have always bothered me when. They look at a problem, and come up with strange results. I can fully understand the importance of family. And I understand the importance of a child having a loving family to be raised in.
However, to look at our country and how many non-traditional families there are, and to blame that for the root of all our countries problems, and to try and make legislation to help families stay together, just seems wrong.
I mean, sure let's help them. But let's also embrace the fact that for many, that's just not an option. I can't imagine forcing a woman to stay with an abusive husband. MANY times, it's better for the family and the children to get out of those situations.
I heard an interview recently with Dr. Laura who basically said NO woman should EVER work and leave her children with someone else. And basically said any woman who does is unfit and selfish.
God forbid parents to try and work and provide for their children! Sure, it'd be great if a parent could be home all the time, but that's not always an option.
Let's face it. The world is changing. There are already millions of children being raised by gay parents. Instead of trying to tear those families apart, let's embrace them. People would be able to spend much more time with their families if they didn't have to spend every second trying to fight for the right to keep their family.
However, to look at our country and how many non-traditional families there are, and to blame that for the root of all our countries problems, and to try and make legislation to help families stay together, just seems wrong.
I mean, sure let's help them. But let's also embrace the fact that for many, that's just not an option. I can't imagine forcing a woman to stay with an abusive husband. MANY times, it's better for the family and the children to get out of those situations.
I heard an interview recently with Dr. Laura who basically said NO woman should EVER work and leave her children with someone else. And basically said any woman who does is unfit and selfish.
God forbid parents to try and work and provide for their children! Sure, it'd be great if a parent could be home all the time, but that's not always an option.
Let's face it. The world is changing. There are already millions of children being raised by gay parents. Instead of trying to tear those families apart, let's embrace them. People would be able to spend much more time with their families if they didn't have to spend every second trying to fight for the right to keep their family.
doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
jewscout said:
If the statistics are true that the number one and two causes of divorce are money and sex, then I think the biggest threat to marriage and families is the twin ideals of the Republicans: sexual repression and shrinking the protections economic opportunities for working families.
Green Gaia
Veteran Member
You know... you may be on to something there.doppelgänger said:
Dr. Nosophoros
Active Member
Marriage is between adults (denoted so by whatever culture they happen to live in, generally 18+ in the U.S.) that want to be married, other than that I don't see an argument.
What is the real argument and where does it come from?
I'd say:
Religious/ moral teaching
but I'd ask
Where does it come from...?
Really?
What is the real argument and where does it come from?
I'd say:
Religious/ moral teaching
but I'd ask
Where does it come from...?
Really?
Ciscokid
Well-Known Member
You know this is the thing that I don't understand about my political party. Conservatives tend to protect tradition. I'd rather protect what is right....tradition is often not a good thing.
Traditional marriage means nothing to me. Two people meet, fall in love and then half the time they end up treating each other like crap and a divorce follows.
Traditional marriage means nothing to me. Two people meet, fall in love and then half the time they end up treating each other like crap and a divorce follows.
Wandered Off
Sporadic Driveby Member
Reminds me of a quotation from Kinky Friedman (author, comedian, and Texas gubernatorial candidate):Ciscokid said:
"I believe love is bigger than government. And besides, they have a right to be as miserable as the rest of us."
Quoth The Raven
Half Arsed Muse
They've got us all on ignore, so they can't see the thread.Jaiket said:
Mathematician
Reason, and reason again
Studies like this are good to hear, but I'm waiting for the day media news actually talk about it. Give me this book over Bill O'Reilly's Book of Spin-Daddies any day.
Edit- Though, I disagree with polygamy being lumped with animal sex.
Edit- Though, I disagree with polygamy being lumped with animal sex.
