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The devil is using the Republican Party to destroy America

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
It's only fair, of course. Here's just a few Biblical references proving this contention that lies are unGodly:

Proverbs 12:22 The LORD detests lying lips, but he delights in people who are trustworthy.

Proverbs 14:5 An honest witness does not deceive, but a false witness pours out lies.

John 8:44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Revelation 21:8 "But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

But wait, there's more:

Islam: Allah’s Apostle said, “The signs of a hypocrite are three: Whenever he speaks, he tells a lie; and whenever he promises, he breaks his promise; and whenever he is entrusted, he betrays (proves to be dishonest)”. Sahih Al-Bukhari – Book 73 Hadith 117

Hinduism: Where there is truth, there is Dharma; where there is Dharma, there is light; and where there is light, there is happiness. Conversely, where there is falsehood, there is Adharma; where there is Adharma, there is darkness; and where there is darkness, there is sorrow.

Secular (Wikipedia):
Honesty is a facet of moral character that connotes positive and virtuous attributes such as integrity, truthfulness, straightforwardness, including straightforwardness of conduct, along with the absence of lying, cheating, theft, etc. Honesty also involves being trustworthy, loyal, fair, and sincere.

Honesty is valued in many ethnic and religious cultures.[1][2][3][4][5] "Honesty is the best policy" is a proverb of Benjamin Franklin, while the quote "Honesty is the first chapter in the book of wisdom" is attributed to Thomas Jefferson, as used in a letter to Nathaniel Macon.[6] April 30 is national Honesty Day in the United States.

William Shakespeare famously describes honesty as an attribute people leave behind when he wrote that "no legacy is so rich as honesty" in act 3 scene 5 of "All's Well that Ends Well."[7]
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
So is there a benchmark for being righteous in he eyes of God? Or good thing perhaps I'm an atheist. I make about half a dozen misleading statements a day. Like you know, "That dress absolutely does not make you look fat".

I wish they'd separate out misleading from lying, cause some folk need to be misled. You work for someone who doesn't have a clue about what they are doing, can't exactly be honest with them if you need to keep your job.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
It's only fair, of course. Here's just a few Biblical references proving this contention that lies are unGodly:

Proverbs 12:22 The LORD detests lying lips, but he delights in people who are trustworthy.

Proverbs 14:5 An honest witness does not deceive, but a false witness pours out lies.

John 8:44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Revelation 21:8 "But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

But wait, there's more:

Islam: Allah’s Apostle said, “The signs of a hypocrite are three: Whenever he speaks, he tells a lie; and whenever he promises, he breaks his promise; and whenever he is entrusted, he betrays (proves to be dishonest)”. Sahih Al-Bukhari – Book 73 Hadith 117

Hinduism: Where there is truth, there is Dharma; where there is Dharma, there is light; and where there is light, there is happiness. Conversely, where there is falsehood, there is Adharma; where there is Adharma, there is darkness; and where there is darkness, there is sorrow.

Secular (Wikipedia):
Honesty is a facet of moral character that connotes positive and virtuous attributes such as integrity, truthfulness, straightforwardness, including straightforwardness of conduct, along with the absence of lying, cheating, theft, etc. Honesty also involves being trustworthy, loyal, fair, and sincere.

Honesty is valued in many ethnic and religious cultures.[1][2][3][4][5] "Honesty is the best policy" is a proverb of Benjamin Franklin, while the quote "Honesty is the first chapter in the book of wisdom" is attributed to Thomas Jefferson, as used in a letter to Nathaniel Macon.[6] April 30 is national Honesty Day in the United States.

William Shakespeare famously describes honesty as an attribute people leave behind when he wrote that "no legacy is so rich as honesty" in act 3 scene 5 of "All's Well that Ends Well."[7]

Umm... you aren't going to leave are you if folks respond negatively? :eek:
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Umm... you aren't going to leave are you if folks respond negatively? :eek:
I thought about making this a joke thread but left it as is with the sarcasm implicit assuming most posters know by now that I'm a "spiritual but not religious" person.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Which GOP leader is the devil?
Putin. :D

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It's only fair, of course. Here's just a few Biblical references proving this contention that lies are unGodly:

Proverbs 12:22 The LORD detests lying lips, but he delights in people who are trustworthy.

Proverbs 14:5 An honest witness does not deceive, but a false witness pours out lies.

John 8:44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Revelation 21:8 "But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

But wait, there's more:

Islam: Allah’s Apostle said, “The signs of a hypocrite are three: Whenever he speaks, he tells a lie; and whenever he promises, he breaks his promise; and whenever he is entrusted, he betrays (proves to be dishonest)”. Sahih Al-Bukhari – Book 73 Hadith 117

Hinduism: Where there is truth, there is Dharma; where there is Dharma, there is light; and where there is light, there is happiness. Conversely, where there is falsehood, there is Adharma; where there is Adharma, there is darkness; and where there is darkness, there is sorrow.

Secular (Wikipedia):
Honesty is a facet of moral character that connotes positive and virtuous attributes such as integrity, truthfulness, straightforwardness, including straightforwardness of conduct, along with the absence of lying, cheating, theft, etc. Honesty also involves being trustworthy, loyal, fair, and sincere.

Honesty is valued in many ethnic and religious cultures.[1][2][3][4][5] "Honesty is the best policy" is a proverb of Benjamin Franklin, while the quote "Honesty is the first chapter in the book of wisdom" is attributed to Thomas Jefferson, as used in a letter to Nathaniel Macon.[6] April 30 is national Honesty Day in the United States.

William Shakespeare famously describes honesty as an attribute people leave behind when he wrote that "no legacy is so rich as honesty" in act 3 scene 5 of "All's Well that Ends Well."[7]

Can the devil use the democrat party too?

What if both parties are two horns on the devils head?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
It's only fair, of course. Here's just a few Biblical references proving this contention that lies are unGodly:

Proverbs 12:22 The LORD detests lying lips, but he delights in people who are trustworthy.

Proverbs 14:5 An honest witness does not deceive, but a false witness pours out lies.

John 8:44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Revelation 21:8 "But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

But wait, there's more:

Islam: Allah’s Apostle said, “The signs of a hypocrite are three: Whenever he speaks, he tells a lie; and whenever he promises, he breaks his promise; and whenever he is entrusted, he betrays (proves to be dishonest)”. Sahih Al-Bukhari – Book 73 Hadith 117

Hinduism: Where there is truth, there is Dharma; where there is Dharma, there is light; and where there is light, there is happiness. Conversely, where there is falsehood, there is Adharma; where there is Adharma, there is darkness; and where there is darkness, there is sorrow.

Secular (Wikipedia):
Honesty is a facet of moral character that connotes positive and virtuous attributes such as integrity, truthfulness, straightforwardness, including straightforwardness of conduct, along with the absence of lying, cheating, theft, etc. Honesty also involves being trustworthy, loyal, fair, and sincere.

Honesty is valued in many ethnic and religious cultures.[1][2][3][4][5] "Honesty is the best policy" is a proverb of Benjamin Franklin, while the quote "Honesty is the first chapter in the book of wisdom" is attributed to Thomas Jefferson, as used in a letter to Nathaniel Macon.[6] April 30 is national Honesty Day in the United States.

William Shakespeare famously describes honesty as an attribute people leave behind when he wrote that "no legacy is so rich as honesty" in act 3 scene 5 of "All's Well that Ends Well."[7]
I wonder if the devil did any of that in the bible?
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
I'm not a Trump fan but look at absolutely any politician on either side of the aisle and they are all lying rather regularly, some just more than others

Yes, I think to be successful at politicking one needs to be good at deception. Someone really good at it would be difficult to catch. If Trump was better at deception, nobody would know.

Of course nobody likes being lied to or deceived but it is a useful talent to have. Actors, used car salesmen, advertising agency, priest, etc... In some careers it's a necessity.
 

Wirey

Fartist
It's only fair, of course. Here's just a few Biblical references proving this contention that lies are unGodly:

Proverbs 12:22 The LORD detests lying lips, but he delights in people who are trustworthy.

Proverbs 14:5 An honest witness does not deceive, but a false witness pours out lies.

John 8:44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Revelation 21:8 "But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

But wait, there's more:

Islam: Allah’s Apostle said, “The signs of a hypocrite are three: Whenever he speaks, he tells a lie; and whenever he promises, he breaks his promise; and whenever he is entrusted, he betrays (proves to be dishonest)”. Sahih Al-Bukhari – Book 73 Hadith 117

Hinduism: Where there is truth, there is Dharma; where there is Dharma, there is light; and where there is light, there is happiness. Conversely, where there is falsehood, there is Adharma; where there is Adharma, there is darkness; and where there is darkness, there is sorrow.

Secular (Wikipedia):
Honesty is a facet of moral character that connotes positive and virtuous attributes such as integrity, truthfulness, straightforwardness, including straightforwardness of conduct, along with the absence of lying, cheating, theft, etc. Honesty also involves being trustworthy, loyal, fair, and sincere.

Honesty is valued in many ethnic and religious cultures.[1][2][3][4][5] "Honesty is the best policy" is a proverb of Benjamin Franklin, while the quote "Honesty is the first chapter in the book of wisdom" is attributed to Thomas Jefferson, as used in a letter to Nathaniel Macon.[6] April 30 is national Honesty Day in the United States.

William Shakespeare famously describes honesty as an attribute people leave behind when he wrote that "no legacy is so rich as honesty" in act 3 scene 5 of "All's Well that Ends Well."[7]

You keep talking sense and people will say you’re a commie.
 
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