Obviously not.You are making a bit too complicated. When I said I obtained Parinirvana I meant that I eliminated my ego.
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Obviously not.You are making a bit too complicated. When I said I obtained Parinirvana I meant that I eliminated my ego.
Interesting. I'd be more inclined to think the opposite.Sorrow follows joy as sure as night follows day. The object is to be detached from it all.
Not sure what you mean, unless you're trying to be funny, ... I meant the continuous cirlce.. joy follows sorrow follows joy follows sorrow ...Interesting. I'd be more inclined to think the opposite.
Not trying to be funny (I guess it's hard to tell with me sometimes, apologies)Not sure what you mean, unless you're trying to be funny, ... I meant the continuous cirlce.. joy follows sorrow follows joy follows sorrow ...
So many people get so disappointed and dejected once happiness blows over, wondering if it'll ever come back.Sorrow follows joy as sure as night follows day. The object is to be detached from it all.
Oh, okay. At least in my Hindu sampradaya, which may well, be different from Buddhism, the object is to detach awareness from all desire.Not trying to be funny (I guess it's hard to tell with me sometimes, apologies)
I meant I would be more inclined to think the object would be to be attached to it all.
All desire?? It seems that desire is what motivates all of our actions, including a desire to not desire.Oh, okay. At least in my Hindu sampradaya, which may well, be different from Buddhism, the object is to detach awareness from all desire.
Creating desire is part of Right Effort of the Eightfold Path.Oh, okay. At least in my Hindu sampradaya, which may well, be different from Buddhism, the object is to detach awareness from all desire.
I think we have to distinguish between desire, and attachment to desire.All desire?? It seems that desire is what motivates all of our actions, including a desire to not desire.
I'm thinking you need to expand on that a bit.I think we have to distinguish between desire, and attachment to desire.
I'm just your normal idiot trying to decipher stuff, so don't expect much in my attempts ... so here goes ... Maybe desire is knowing you're hungry, that it's a human need. Attachment to it is when you go all nutty if someone doesn't bring you food just when you want it.I'm thinking you need to expand on that a bit.
Hmm... so it's OK to want stuff but not really, really want stuff? Eat the apples on the ground, but don't shake the tree?I'm just your normal idiot trying to decipher stuff, so don't expect much in my attempts ... so here goes ... Maybe desire is knowing you're hungry, that it's a human need. Attachment to it is when you go all nutty if someone doesn't bring you food just when you want it.
Hmm... so it's OK to want stuff but not really, really want stuff? Eat the apples on the ground, but don't shake the tree?
Tanha is fiery craving (like a junkie,) and is often translated as desire, whereas Upadana is clinging attachment (as in addiction--fuel for the fire of addiction.)I'm just your normal idiot trying to decipher stuff, so don't expect much in my attempts ... so here goes ... Maybe desire is knowing you're hungry, that it's a human need. Attachment to it is when you go all nutty if someone doesn't bring you food just when you want it.