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I obtained Parinirvana today by uniting with the Source

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Happiness is an aggregate. An aspect of ego.

I probably wouldn't diss him too much on it. If I was gleefully happy I'd certainly enjoy it while it lasts. ;0)
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
Sorrow follows joy as sure as night follows day. The object is to be detached from it all.
 

WalterTrull

Godfella
Not sure what you mean, unless you're trying to be funny, ... I meant the continuous cirlce.. joy follows sorrow follows joy follows sorrow ...
Not trying to be funny (I guess it's hard to tell with me sometimes, apologies)
I meant I would be more inclined to think the object would be to be attached to it all.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Sorrow follows joy as sure as night follows day. The object is to be detached from it all.
So many people get so disappointed and dejected once happiness blows over, wondering if it'll ever come back.

Wondering where their Enlightenment went? .... .. .

Was tempted to respond to the OP with "MU"admist horrific thoughts of being Cafe'
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
Not trying to be funny (I guess it's hard to tell with me sometimes, apologies)
I meant I would be more inclined to think the object would be to be attached to it all.
Oh, okay. At least in my Hindu sampradaya, which may well, be different from Buddhism, the object is to detach awareness from all desire.
 

WalterTrull

Godfella
Oh, okay. At least in my Hindu sampradaya, which may well, be different from Buddhism, the object is to detach awareness from all desire.
All desire?? It seems that desire is what motivates all of our actions, including a desire to not desire.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
I'm thinking you need to expand on that a bit. :shrug:
I'm just your normal idiot trying to decipher stuff, so don't expect much in my attempts ... so here goes ... Maybe desire is knowing you're hungry, that it's a human need. Attachment to it is when you go all nutty if someone doesn't bring you food just when you want it.
 

WalterTrull

Godfella
I'm just your normal idiot trying to decipher stuff, so don't expect much in my attempts ... so here goes ... Maybe desire is knowing you're hungry, that it's a human need. Attachment to it is when you go all nutty if someone doesn't bring you food just when you want it.
Hmm... so it's OK to want stuff but not really, really want stuff? Eat the apples on the ground, but don't shake the tree?
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
Hmm... so it's OK to want stuff but not really, really want stuff? Eat the apples on the ground, but don't shake the tree?

Sure, or put another way, it's taking the emotion out of it. Your past experiences are another example. It's fine to remember them, but if you rehash it, and have the same old emotional reaction, it's not. Why get all angry about something that's water under the bridge as they say?
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic ☿
Premium Member
I'm just your normal idiot trying to decipher stuff, so don't expect much in my attempts ... so here goes ... Maybe desire is knowing you're hungry, that it's a human need. Attachment to it is when you go all nutty if someone doesn't bring you food just when you want it.
Tanha is fiery craving (like a junkie,) and is often translated as desire, whereas Upadana is clinging attachment (as in addiction--fuel for the fire of addiction.)
 
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