Hebrews 4:9 rediscovered

dmap said:

This is common with revealed religions when multiple people inject multiple ideas for multiple reasons over multiple generations. After a while, the system becomes incoherent. We should expect such contradictions.

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From you, yea, it is to be expected.

Gerhard Ebersoehn said:

<<Christ cancelled the Sabbath Law on the cross; it no longer is valid for Christians.>>

But what does the Scripture, Hebrews 4:9, say? It says, "A Sabbath Rest Day remains for the People of God." [apoleipetai Sabbatismos tohi Laohi tou Theou]

Why, and How, does the Scripture, Hebrews 4:9, say, "A Sabbath Rest Day remains for the People of God"? It says, "BECAUSE if [ei gar] JESUS gave them Rest (Himself being the "Rest-of-God") [autous Jehsous katepausen] ... THEREFORE [ara], a keeping remains / remains valid [apoleipetai] of the Sabbath Rest Day [Sabbatismos] for the People of God." [tohi Laohi tou Theou].

Now like no one before, have I consistently for the past fifty years been the one person emphasizing this; and, have I been the one who like no other before, have focussed the attention on the HOW or modus operandi of God in Christ, as HE, AVAILED and ATTAINED this "Rest of God ... for the People of God", and "THEREBY AND THEREFORE VALIDATED a Sabbath-Rest-Day for the People of God ... AS HE ... JESUS ... ENTERED into his own Rest as God in his own" THROUGH HAVING RESURRECTED from the dead ... "ON THE SABBATH".

At this time before my opponents and critics and despisers and mockers and insulters, Let it be discovered, THIS PASSIVE of the Present Indicative Verb, 'apoleipetai', which at most may be abbreviated and put in brackets in commentaries, but never has been done consequential justice. For in fact in this Scripture, Hebrews 4:9, it is written indelibly forever, "Because JESUS gave them Rest ... keeping of God's Sabbath Rest Day indeed IS BEING MADE VALID" -- ANEW, "He", through Resurrection from the dead ON THE SABBATH. "having entered into his own Rest as God in his own"!

Yes, it's the Passive, "Sabbath Rest Day indeed IS BEING MADE VALID" -- IMPERATIVE, COMMAND! Command, the "Sabbath Rest Day indeed is being made valid FOR THE PEOPLE OF GOD". "Because Jesus gave them Rest ... therefore and thereby a Sabbath-Rest-Day for the People of God IS VALIDATED / IS CAUSED TO STAY / IS TO BE KEPT ... as He ... JESUS ... entered into his own Rest as God in his own", He having resurrected from the dead "on the Sabbath".

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Yeah you could interpret that way if you want. But Reading that verse with the rest of the chapter I believe the writer is talking more about staying on the christian path until the very end because there is rest(heaven) and we know that to be true because even God gave himself a sabbath.

TheBannerofHomuraAkemi said:

Yeah you could interpret that way if you want. But Reading that verse with the rest of the chapter I believe the writer is talking more about staying on the christian path until the very end because there is rest(heaven) and we know that to be true because even God gave himself a sabbath.

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Not written nowhere! '~God gave himself a sabbath~' So we know that not to be true.

Not written nowhere! '~rest(heaven)~' So we know that not to be true.

Gerhard Ebersoehn said:

Not written nowhere! '~God gave himself a sabbath~' So we know that not to be true.

Not written nowhere! '~rest(heaven)~' So we know that not to be true.

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So God didn't give himself a rest on the seventh day in the story of creation.

Rest is equal to heaven numerous writers in the new testament uses that allegory. Otherwise the verse doesn't fit into context with the rest of the chapter.

TheBannerofHomuraAkemi said:

So God didn't give himself a rest on the seventh day in the story of creation.

Rest is equal to heaven numerous writers in the new testament uses that allegory. Otherwise the verse doesn't fit into context with the rest of the chapter.

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The story of the creation is no allegory; the creation is no story of the Seventh Day. The verses touching the history of the Seventh Day upon earth fit into context after the fall after God had finished creating.

Gerhard Ebersoehn said:

<<Christ cancelled the Sabbath Law on the cross; it no longer is valid for Christians.>>

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Romans 10:4: “Christ is the end of the Law, so that everyone exercising faith may have righteousness.” (Sabbath keeping was a part of that Law. God used Christ to bring that Law to its end. Our having a righteous standing with God depends on faith in Christ, not on keeping a weekly sabbath.) (Also Galatians 4:9-11; Ephesians 2:13-16)

But what does the Scripture, Hebrews 4:9, say? It says, "A Sabbath Rest Day remains for the People of God." [apoleipetai Sabbatismos tohi Laohi tou Theou]

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To the first-century Hebrew Christians, the apostle Paul wrote: “There remains a sabbath resting for the people of God. For the man that has entered into God’s rest has also himself rested from his own works, just as God did from his own. Let us therefore do our utmost to enter into that rest.”—Hebrews 4:9-11.

When Paul spoke of God’s resting from His work, he was apparently referring to what is stated at Genesis 2:2, where we read: “By the seventh day God came to the completion of his work that he had made, and he proceeded to rest on the seventh day from all his work that he had made.” Why did Jehovah proceed “to rest on the seventh day”? Surely it was not because he needed to recuperate “from all his work that he had made.” The next verse provides a clue: “God proceeded to bless the seventh day and make it sacred, because on it he has been resting from all his work that God has created for the purpose of making.”—Genesis 2:3; Isaiah 40:26, 28.

The “seventh day” was different from any of the preceding six days in that it was a day that God blessed and made sacred, that is, a day set aside for, or dedicated to, a special purpose. What was that purpose? Earlier, God had revealed his purpose regarding mankind and the earth. To the first man and his wife, God said: “Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving upon the earth.” (Genesis 1:28) Although God had given mankind and the earth a perfect start, it would take time for the whole earth to be subdued and transformed into a paradise filled with a perfect human family, as God had purposed. Thus, on “the seventh day,” God rested, or desisted, from further earthly creative works in order to allow what he had already created to develop in accord with his will. By the end of that “day,” all that God had purposed will have become a reality. How long will that rest be?

Getting back to Paul’s statement in Hebrews, we note that he pointed out that “there remains a sabbath resting for the people of God,” and he urged his fellow Christians to do their utmost “to enter into that rest.” This shows that when Paul wrote those words, “the seventh day” of God’s rest, which had started some 4,000 years earlier, was still in progress. It will not end until God’s purpose regarding mankind and the earth is completely fulfilled at the end of the Thousand Year Reign of Jesus Christ, who is the “Lord of the sabbath.”—Matthew 12:8; Revelation 20:1-6; 21:1-4.

With that wonderful prospect in view, Paul explained how one might enter into God’s rest. He wrote: “The man that has entered into God’s rest has also himself rested from his own works.” This tells us that although having a perfect start, mankind as a whole had not entered into God’s rest. This was because Adam and Eve did not long observe God’s rest on “the seventh day” by accepting his arrangement for them. Instead, they rebelled and wanted to become independent of God. In fact, they went along with Satan’s scheme of things rather than accept God’s loving direction. (Genesis 2:15-17) As a result, they lost the prospect of living forever on a paradise earth. From then on, all mankind became enslaved to sin and death.—Romans 5:12, 14.

Mankind’s rebellion did not thwart God’s purpose. His rest day continues. However, Jehovah made a loving provision—the ransom—through his Son, Jesus Christ, so that all who accept it on the basis of faith may look forward to release and rest from the burden of sin and death. (Romans 6:23) That is why Paul urged his fellow Christians to ‘rest from their own works.’ They needed to accept God’s provision for salvation and not try to work out their own future in their own way, as Adam and Eve had. They also needed to avoid pursuing their own works of self-justification.

Putting aside one’s selfish or mundane pursuits in order to do God’s will is indeed refreshing and restful. Jesus sounded this invitation: “Come to me, all you who are toiling and loaded down, and I will refresh you. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am mild-tempered and lowly in heart, and you will find refreshment for your souls. For my yoke is kindly and my load is light.”—Matthew 11:28-30.

Paul’s discussion of God’s rest and how one might enter into it surely was a source of encouragement to the Hebrew Christians in Jerusalem, who had endured much persecution and ridicule for their faith. (Acts 8:1; 12:1-5) Similarly, Paul’s words can be a source of encouragement to Christians today. Realizing that the fulfillment of God’s promise to bring about a paradise earth under his righteous Kingdom is near at hand, we too should rest from our own works and do our utmost to enter into that rest.—Matthew 6:10, 33; 2 Peter 3:13.

Sabbath — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY

Deeje said:

Romans 10:4: ...... our own works and do our utmost to enter into that rest.—Matthew 6:10, 33; 2 Peter 3:13. Sabbath — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY

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With this post you replied to my post #1 as for introduction I clearly INDICATED a referenced QUOTE OF SOMEONE ELSE: ↑'~<<Christ cancelled the Sabbath Law on the cross; it no longer is valid for Christians.>>~'.

You refer to the same as if I authored it. I did NOT.

Please rectify your incorrect and misleading use of it!

Gerhard Ebersoehn said:

With this post you replied to my post #1 as for introduction I clearly INDICATED a referenced QUOTE OF SOMEONE ELSE: ↑'~<<Christ cancelled the Sabbath Law on the cross; it no longer is valid for Christians.>>~'.

You refer to the same as if I authored it. I did NOT.

Please rectify your incorrect and misleading use of it!

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You misunderstand....I quoted what you quoted to show that Romans 10:4 backed it up. Christ was the end of the Law. Do you disagree?

Deeje said:

To the first-century Hebrew Christians, the apostle Paul wrote: “There remains a sabbath resting for the people of God. For the man that has entered into God’s rest has also himself rested from his own works, just as God did from his own. Let us therefore do our utmost to enter into that rest.”—Hebrews 4:9-11.

When Paul spoke of God’s resting from His work, he was apparently referring to what is stated at Genesis 2:2, where we read: “By the seventh day God came to the completion of his work that he had made, and he proceeded to rest on the seventh day from all his work that he had made.” Why did Jehovah proceed “to rest on the seventh day”? Surely it was not because he needed to recuperate “from all his work that he had made.” The next verse provides a clue: “God proceeded to bless the seventh day and make it sacred, because on it he has been resting from all his work that God has created for the purpose of making.”—Genesis 2:3; Isaiah 40:26, 28.

The “seventh day” was different from any of the preceding six days in that it was a day that God blessed and made sacred, that is, a day set aside for, or dedicated to, a special purpose. What was that purpose? Earlier, God had revealed his purpose regarding mankind and the earth. To the first man and his wife, God said: “Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving upon the earth.” (Genesis 1:28) Although God had given mankind and the earth a perfect start, it would take time for the whole earth to be subdued and transformed into a paradise filled with a perfect human family, as God had purposed. Thus, on “the seventh day,” God rested, or desisted, from further earthly creative works in order to allow what he had already created to develop in accord with his will. By the end of that “day,” all that God had purposed will have become a reality. How long will that rest be?

Getting back to Paul’s statement in Hebrews, we note that he pointed out that “there remains a sabbath resting for the people of God,” and he urged his fellow Christians to do their utmost “to enter into that rest.” This shows that when Paul wrote those words, “the seventh day” of God’s rest, which had started some 4,000 years earlier, was still in progress. It will not end until God’s purpose regarding mankind and the earth is completely fulfilled at the end of the Thousand Year Reign of Jesus Christ, who is the “Lord of the sabbath.”—Matthew 12:8; Revelation 20:1-6; 21:1-4.

With that wonderful prospect in view, Paul explained how one might enter into God’s rest. He wrote: “The man that has entered into God’s rest has also himself rested from his own works.” This tells us that although having a perfect start, mankind as a whole had not entered into God’s rest. This was because Adam and Eve did not long observe God’s rest on “the seventh day” by accepting his arrangement for them. Instead, they rebelled and wanted to become independent of God. In fact, they went along with Satan’s scheme of things rather than accept God’s loving direction. (Genesis 2:15-17) As a result, they lost the prospect of living forever on a paradise earth. From then on, all mankind became enslaved to sin and death.—Romans 5:12, 14.

Mankind’s rebellion did not thwart God’s purpose. His rest day continues. However, Jehovah made a loving provision—the ransom—through his Son, Jesus Christ, so that all who accept it on the basis of faith may look forward to release and rest from the burden of sin and death. (Romans 6:23) That is why Paul urged his fellow Christians to ‘rest from their own works.’ They needed to accept God’s provision for salvation and not try to work out their own future in their own way, as Adam and Eve had. They also needed to avoid pursuing their own works of self-justification.

Putting aside one’s selfish or mundane pursuits in order to do God’s will is indeed refreshing and restful. Jesus sounded this invitation: “Come to me, all you who are toiling and loaded down, and I will refresh you. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am mild-tempered and lowly in heart, and you will find refreshment for your souls. For my yoke is kindly and my load is light.”—Matthew 11:28-30.

Paul’s discussion of God’s rest and how one might enter into it surely was a source of encouragement to the Hebrew Christians in Jerusalem, who had endured much persecution and ridicule for their faith. (Acts 8:1; 12:1-5) Similarly, Paul’s words can be a source of encouragement to Christians today. Realizing that the fulfillment of God’s promise to bring about a paradise earth under his righteous Kingdom is near at hand, we too should rest from our own works and do our utmost to enter into that rest.—Matthew 6:10, 33; 2 Peter 3:13.

Sabbath — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY

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