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Reasoning On Sin?

JustWondering

JustWondering

Jerk
Faithofchristian said:
Why does God call the prince of Tyrus a man, Seeing how you can't figure that out.

Because he is a man. What do you think the prince of Tyrus is, other than a man.

You probably didnt know that even the angels in heaven are called a man.
As the sons of God. Seeing how the angels are called the sons of God, that means, they are a man.
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I got bored waiting for a response so I puttered around on google, you might find this interesting.

http://churchofchristarticles.com/blog/administrator/is-ezekiel-28-referring-to-satans-fall/
 
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Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
JustWondering said:
I got bored waiting for a response so I puttered around on google, you might find this interesting.

Is Ezekiel 28 Referring to Satan’s Fall?
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Look, that to which you gave is just some man's teachings.
If I wanted to hear what some man has to say, I would haved stayed and belong to a church. This is one of the reasons why I do not belong to any Religious organization or a church.
Nice try, but try again.
 
Shadow Link

Shadow Link

Active Member
Cary Cook said:
Much is made of the idea that sin originally meant missing the mark.

Probably not one word could replace them all. At least 6 different Hebrew words and 3 Greek words are translated sin. A term general enough to cover most of them would be offense.
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No offense here. Interpretation or perspective of the fundamental truths could very well have some reason or barring on ones calling, or need, toward being a part of understanding the whole.
 
JustWondering

JustWondering

Jerk
Faithofchristian said:
What are you talking about, you cited Ezekiel to me and you ask me about the king of Tyrus as being a man, and I answered you back, saying, Why of course king of Tyrus is a man, who or what else would he be other than a man.
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*sigh* No, you claimed the prince of Tyrus from Ezekiel 28 was Satan, who is a fallen angel, not a man. Now that you've been proven wrong you are refusing to admit you were mistaken which means you are not being honest.
 
JustWondering

JustWondering

Jerk
Faithofchristian said:
Look, that to which you gave is just some man's teachings.
If I wanted to hear what some man has to say, I would haved stayed and belong to a church. This is one of the reasons why I do not belong to any Religious organization or a church.
Nice try, but try again.
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I think you should find a good church or bible study group to join so you stop embarrassing yourself with your bible illiteracy on these forums.
 
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we-live-now

Active Member
Shadow Link said:
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1) What in your opinion is Sin?


2) What in your opinion would be the opposite of Sin?


3) Is there another term that one could plug into scripture replacing the term 'sin', as an equal term of usage?
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I come from a scripture perspective that has studied prayerfully at length both the original words of the Old Testament and the New testament. Sin is usually the Greek word "hamartia" which means "Missing the mark", sometimes translated as just "Missing". I believe one meaning is that none of us are perfect nor can we act perfectly or "hit the mark" 100% of the time as God's perfect law demands. Also, another meaning is that our consciousness is right "now" "missing" (from heaven). See parables of the "missing" coin and the prodigal or "missing" son.

If there is an opposite of "sin" then I would have to say that God himself is the opposite of Sin. Although I believe that God is all that exists even the "missing" parts or he/she isn't truly God. God the father and Jesus Christ the Lord are perfection. Everything that is now and ever existed is being (re)made perfect or finished as complete, passing through the (spiritual) body of Jesus and being made new/finished according to John 12:32 and Revelations 21:5. This includes all people regardless of their religious beliefs. All religions even the "Christian" one are of the darkness of mans mind. Anything or idea that separates us is of the darkness. There exists one, single whole (mostly hidden) truth for all....best called "I AM". John 14:6 I believe at the core of everyone is "I AM". He is THE life. John 14:6 All life that has and will ever exist natural or otherwise.

Another term would be "not God" or what scripture calls "not". "Not" is (a living being of death) that is making its home inside our "members"/natural bodies regardless of our religious beliefs. They are the spiritual powers of darkness in Earth's heavenlies that control the naturl body. That is why our natural bodies die. I believe this "not" inside us is the death of Jesus. 2 Cor 4:10 He tells the Pharisee's "I am "NOT" of this world" in John 8:23 "Sin"/not is the (living) "being" that is in the members of me (and you). Rom 7:23 in Westminster-Leningrad Codex. "not" is death and is like a spiritual vacuum based on God's perfect law sucking us out of this body and into a new one.

Also, please remember that original words of Romans 7:18 say that "not is homing in me" (living in my natural body or "Members"). Romans 7:20 clarifies this to say "Sin is homing in me".

How did "NOT" get it's power?

The OT and the Ten Commandments (ministry of Moses) are the "ministry of death". 2 Cor 3:7 Here is where the "ministry of death" (not) received it's covenant.

"Not" he shall become to you God other ones on faces of me Ex 20:3 ("Not is called to become God other ones/idols)
"Not" you shall made do for you carving Ex 20:4 ("Not" is called to make graven images)
"Not" you shall bow yourself down to them (these "idols" ending up being man and the angels were told to bow down to them)
"Not" you shall murder Ex 20:13 (This is why man murders. It's the "not" making its home in him)
"Not" you shall commit adultery Ex 20:14 (This is why man commits adultery)
"Not" you shall steal Ex 20:15 (This is why man steals)
"Not" you shall answer in associate of you testimony of falsehood (lie to others)

Here are a few NT verses on "Not".

"Not" (sin) is bragging, "Not" (sin) is being inflated 1 Cor 13:4
"Not" (sin) is being indecent, "Not" (sin) is seeking the of Herself (she is a woman/female) 1 Cor 13:5 (Sin being a female spiritual body is backed up in other parts of original words of scripture)
"Not" (sin) is joying on the un-justness (injustice) 1 Cor 13:6.

"Not" stops there in verse "13:6" That is as far as it can go. It can only kill the natural body. The rest is eternal and will return back to where we came from. Our one father. Eccl 12:7, Mal 2:10, Eph 4:6, 1 Cor 8:6.
 
Robert Landbeck

Robert Landbeck

Member
Shadow Link said:
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1) What in your opinion is Sin?
A religious expression for moral error.

2) What in your opinion would be the opposite of Sin?
The obverse of moral error must be what is morally correct, right conduct.

3) Is there another term that one could plug into scripture replacing the term 'sin', as an equal term of usage?
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As misused as the term may be in religious tradition, other then the literal meaning, sin as general religious expression for wrong doing, for the moment will have to do!
 
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