I heard an interesting sermon today, and it got me thinking...maybe mankind needs to ''catch up'' with the Bible, was what the sermon spoke about. That said, there are parts of the Bible that I believe to be literal and others, I feel are more allegory in nature. Many of the moral messages within the Bible seem reliable, because we are still experiencing much of what was discussed in the Bible, today. I tend to think that timeless messages serve to be reliable, to a degree.
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Is the Bible reliable?
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There are thousands of manuscripts of both the Hebrew and Christian Greek scriptures that can be compared to determine if the Bible we have today differs from the original. "The close relationship in time between the oldest New Testament manuscripts and the original texts is also nothing less than amazing. . . . For our knowledge of the writings of most of the classical authors we are dependent upon manuscripts the oldest of which belong to a time between the ninth and eleventh centuries A.D. . . . Thus it is that the certainty with which the text of the New Testament is established exceeds that of any other ancient book. The words which the New Testament writers addressed to their world and time have crossed the further miles and centuries to us substantially unchanged in form and certainly undiminished in power.”—Light From the Ancient Past, 1959, pp. 449, 450.
How to mislead 101
We can't determine if what we have differs from the original. YOU and the Jehovah's Witnesses seem to teach that the oldest manuscripts are the original manuscripts. They aren't.
It is hard for me to imagine people who have proof some things were changed from the oldest manuscripts but that nothing whatsoever was changed from the originals when the oldest ones we have were copied. They are copies just like what we have are copies.
The Bible does not say Adam was the first to domesticate wheat. If anyone was first it would have been Cain.
The ark was not a boat, it was a barge.
What do you find not believable about the story of Lot?
How to mislead 101
We can't determine if what we have differs from the original. YOU and the Jehovah's Witnesses seem to teach that the oldest manuscripts are the original manuscripts. They aren't.
It is hard for me to imagine people who have proof some things were changed from the oldest manuscripts but that nothing whatsoever was changed from the originals when the oldest ones we have were copied. They are copies just like what we have are copies.
There is no evidence the oldest mss are the originals, but there is no evidence the ones we have arf not accurate.
There actually is evidence. Shrugs.
There are no inaccuracies in The Bible you say.
Your Bible says Jesus is God.
The Jehovah's Witness Bible says Jesus is a god.
You might say that theirs isn't accurate. How do you know yours is?
You might say that theirs isn't accurate. How do you know yours is?[/QUOTE]
The JW Bible was not translated the available mss. It is an edited version of the KJ and originally done by men not qualified to do Bible translation. All they did was omit anything contrary to their theology.
All good translation are done by teams of scholars who are experts in Greek and Hebrew.
The JW Bible was not translated the available mss. It is an edited version of the KJ and originally done by men not qualified to do Bible translation. All they did was omit anything contrary to their theology.
All good translation are done by teams of scholars who are experts in Greek and Hebrew.
Because you know that........
Because......you were there. You know those men. How?
How do you know all the people having to do with the Bible's reality?
By the way, how do you know their hearts and that they never lie?
Genesis 8:21
The LORD smelled the soothing aroma; and the LORD said to Himself, "I will never again curse the ground on account of man, for the intent of man's heart is evil from his youth; and I will never again destroy every living thing, as I have done.
Romans 3:4
Absolutely not! Let God be true and every man a liar. As it is written: "So that You may be justified in Your words, and prevail in Your judgments."
Jeremiah 17:9
The heart is more deceitful than all else And is desperately sick; Who can understand it?
The LORD smelled the soothing aroma; and the LORD said to Himself, "I will never again curse the ground on account of man, for the intent of man's heart is evil from his youth; and I will never again destroy every living thing, as I have done.
Romans 3:4
Absolutely not! Let God be true and every man a liar. As it is written: "So that You may be justified in Your words, and prevail in Your judgments."
Jeremiah 17:9
The heart is more deceitful than all else And is desperately sick; Who can understand it?
You'll are so adorable when you say that I shouldn't probably quote the Bible if I think that some of the things in it aren't the truth.
1 Kings 22:22
"The LORD said to him, 'How?' And he said, 'I will go out and be a deceiving spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.' Then He said, 'You are to entice him and also prevail. Go and do so.'
"The LORD said to him, 'How?' And he said, 'I will go out and be a deceiving spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.' Then He said, 'You are to entice him and also prevail. Go and do so.'
Talk is cheap, post your evidence. SHRUGS
LOL. Again? How many times do you want it?
Of course, I do not know all the mistranslations. I think that would take a team and seeing that I am all alone, I only have a few.
"Own" was added to Proverbs 3:5 and "make" was added to Matthew 28:19
There are two in your face mistakes. Take them, or leave them like all the rest!
"Own" was added to Proverbs 3:5 and "make" was added to Matthew 28:19
There are two in your face mistakes. Take them, or leave them like all the rest!
The whole wide wonderful world leans on the understanding of religious interpretation. All different, mind you, but they lean.
Proverbs 3:5 says, "do not lean". But, you do.
Proverbs 3:5 says, "do not lean". But, you do.
By the way, Proverbs 3:5 , as written, is one of the correct ones, imho.
You are just blowing smoke. You can find out who translates any Bib le you want to , if
Once will be enough.
Once will be enough.
No, it won't. LOL
Own was added to Proverbs 3:5 and make was added to Matthew 28:19
In both instances, the meaning was changed.
Not true. Provide your source if you expect someone to believe what you said