Hatred of homosexuals, Christians and the rich

I am coming to the conclusion that the most harassed, belittled, discriminated groups in America are not blacks, hispanics, native Americans, nor Jews or Muslims, or women... et all.

It is Christians and homosexuals who face the worst of all of this.

And the most abused of all is a homosexual Christian.

Not far behind these two groups are the rich.

Some of this hate directed towards these three almost makes me wonder if they may become victims of future camps, prisons or worse at the hands of hate groups.

The most targetted of all is a rich homosexual Christian.
I am neither a homosexual nor a Christian, but this is what I see.

The hatred needs to stop.

ShivaFan said:

The most targetted of all is a rich homosexual Christian.

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You figure that's a pretty sizable population?

... in San Francisco.

But a lot of this hatred is in the mind of the hater. Who see the boogieman in much larger numbers than exist. They see rich people all around them, even hiding under their bed, they see homosexuals in every Jag car or making their tuna salad sandwich. They hate Christians who they think run the Bank of Texas.

Actually, it is sort of like a mental problem with a lot of these people, all jokes aside.

No one faces as much hatred as a rich homosexual Christian.

Kilgore Trout said:

You figure that's a pretty sizable population?

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Sure. Just count the televangelists.

Gjallarhorn said:

Sure. Just count the televangelists.

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Zing.

... but it is the average guy or gal on the street who face this often. For example a rich homosexual Christian applying for a job at Ben and Jerrys. Or just driving down the street in his Jaguar with a Christian Fish metal logo and a rainbow flag sticker and a "#IStandWithRickPerry" red bumper sticker.

There is no doubt, there are sick people who want to arrest televangelusts and then do worse. Stop this hatred within yourself, just turn the channel but don't be a bigot.

ShivaFan said:

I am coming to the conclusion that the most harassed, belittled, discriminated groups in America are not blacks, hispanics, native Americans, nor Jews or Muslims, or women... et all.

It is Christians and homosexuals who face the worst of all of this.

And the most abused of all is a homosexual Christian.

Not far behind these two groups are the rich.

Some of this hate directed towards these three almost makes me wonder if they may become victims of future camps, prisons or worse at the hands of hate groups.

The most targetted of all is a rich homosexual Christian.
I am neither a homosexual nor a Christian, but this is what I see.

The hatred needs to stop.

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Garbage.

I don't agree that Christians are a targeted or hated group as a whole. It is the bible-thumpers and evangelists who are targets of ridicule. Given the number of Christian churches of all denominations, there are few bombings of churches or assassinations of Christians or Christian leaders, nor is there anti-Christian legislation. Legislation against any religion is based on the First Amendment. On the other hand, while the number of gay-bashing incidents may have gone down - I don't know for sure - the movement to keep gays legally marginalized is alive and well. At least 30 of the 50 US states have state constitutional bans on gay marriage. NJ has gay marriage only because the state supreme court said enough is enough, based on the state constitution. Gov. Christie, a "devout" Catholic "vowed" to veto any same sex marriage bill that crossed his desk. *thumbs nose @ Gov. Christie* Florida still does not permit adoption of children by gay couples.

I do see a constant attack on Christians, in the media in general bigotry and job discrimination, in the movie industry bigotry and stereotypes and hatred and discrimination in the job front, in public scbools and university a campaign of hate and discrimination, in the powers of government, and in the work office and in public many feel they can openly abuse Christians because no one is protecting their civil rights and the right to be free from harassment.

I see homosexuals now again increasingly being marginalized and yes there are States which practise legislative discrimination.

I see hate groups who stereotype and want to abuse rich people in general. The media promotes it, and organized soft tyranny in government promote this hatred.

I am serious about all three, though the first two are less able to defend themselves.

Those who do not belong to any of these three, are often blind to it and it's danger to themself and not just the danger of such bigotry against these three.

Let me make it more simple.

Today, right now, in this society, in America, homosexuals and Christians face more stigmatization, open harassment and discrimination without merit for guilt to deserve such hate, than blacks as an identity. The rich are increasingly being subject to a campaign of hate and violence without merit for guilt to deserve such hate.

On the global front, more Christians and homosexuals as a group are becoming victims of hate directed torture, death camps, murder and genocide than blacks as a targetted race and specifically because they are homosexual or Christian. Increasingly the rich are being targetted by organized hate. Jews also need to be concerned, and Hindus need to ready themselves in their traditional homelands from a genocidal attack from others.

Wait a minute, you left out a group, the group I'm in, that dont believe their is such a thing as a homosexual Christian. I went back and read that you did include Christians, nevermind. But I dont feel harassed or belittled. But I might soon get some help

ShivaFan said:

The rich are increasingly being subject to a campaign of... violence....

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Violence? I find your fact challenged rant laughable.

Wealth is an interesting case, as is Christianity. But for very different reasons.

Christianity is a very heterogeneous group. However, it does give sanctuary to some nasty oppressors, albeit often begrudgingly. Quite simply, it needs to nurture the courage to say "no more" to its hate groups. Much like Islam, albeit not quite to the same level. Both faiths suffer from an easily abusable doctrine and a lack of will to take a firm stand against such abuse.

As for the wealthy... it is really simpler yet. Wealth is treated as a right that can be earned by various means, when it really isn't. It is a privilege sustained by the good will of others, which by its turn derives largely from the hope of raising the social ladder themselves.

Some level of social differences is healthy and unavoidable. Unfortunately, said level has been long, long surpassed, and by this point we are essentially taking away our own offals with the current levels of inequality. The falling away of this situation is IMO both necessary and unavoidable. And since it has gone on for this far, it will hurt quite a lot.

ShivaFan said:

I am coming to the conclusion that the most harassed, belittled, discriminated groups in America are not blacks, hispanics, native Americans, nor Jews or Muslims, or women... et all.

It is Christians and homosexuals who face the worst of all of this.

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Yeah, I'm not buying that Christians are the most discriminated against group in America.
73% of Americans are Christians (give or take).

Check out this link which shows American senators by religion...
Religious affiliation in the United States Senate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

(short story : senate is 85% Christian and 10% Jewish, with both groups over-represented compared to general populace)

And in terms of people's attitudes, we could go with the following;
How Americans Feel About Religious Groups | Pew Research Center's Religion & Public Life Project

(short story : Jews, Catholics and Evangelicals are rated most positively, Muslims and atheists least)

You're suggesting that the overwhelming majority of the country, who are overwhelmingly represented in political office, and who are viewed most favourably by the general populace are in fact the most harrassed group in America?

:no:

Not buying it.

ShivaFan said:

Some of this hate directed towards these three almost makes me wonder if they may become victims of future camps, prisons or worse at the hands of hate groups.

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Who are these hate groups?

ShivaFan said:

The most targetted of all is a rich homosexual Christian.
I am neither a homosexual nor a Christian, but this is what I see.

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Who, exactly, would target rich, homosexual Christians for hate? Would it be poor, heterosexual Christians?
I honestly don't know.

ShivaFan said:

The hatred needs to stop.

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Yes, indeed. Oftentimes I find a link between hatred and ignorance.

To be honest, I think America itself is a big target itself.

This is incorrect to say the majority of Americans are Christians. Many are confusing simple "respond to this survey" answers as reality. For example, you ask the average American, "what are you, what do you identify as the most?" the huge majority will not say "Christian" as their first response. Only true practicing Christians respond so.

Most Americans rarely go to church, or other religious centers such as temples. It does not mean Americans are not "religious", actually the typical concept of many, many Americans is rather basic, that "God exists" and they "believe in a God". That is not the same as saying "Jesus is God".

If someone went around with a clipboard and said "mark your religion here", the person may mark "Christian" but that is only because, if they respond at all (many would take offense and be suspicious as to why someone needs to know), they just check something hoping they will make the person taking the survey happy. I know this sounds strange, but it is part of the "human nature" of many Americans. The person responding never goes to church but instead watches football on Sunday, or whatever. The person doesn't even know anything of Bible verse, nor cares to know, other than a few "Chapter x verse n" type stuff they heard used in the past as some sort of endorsement for their favorite NFL team (e.g. holding up a sign with the verse reference hoping their sign will be shown on Monday Night Football).

They actually are not a Christian at all, but for expediency they might check Christian because "I think my parents were" sort of thing. They just believe there is a God (or Gods) but "whatever".

So you may end up with a survey indicating most Americans are Christian, but in fact only a true minority are actually true practicing Christians, most Americans are actually no particular religion at all, or secular, or just "nothing".

A breakdown of which religion a group of US Senators belong to means nothing. It is just expediency in most cases here as well. They are not Christians, they are politicians. Lawyers. Many actually hate the minority Christians in America.

The rich are now being violently attacked, their houses broken into, stores looted and so on. Someone mentioned America itself is being targetted - yes, there is truth in that, I say America is being targetted with hate and hate crimes by many.

Now someone said a survey shows Americans do not see Muslims in a good light.

That is true.

It has nothing to do with these same Americans thinking "I am Christian, they are not". B.S.

They never think Christian anything. They don't like Muslims who want to blow up the shopping mall or subway. It is simple as that, and actually most Americans never even thought about Muslim anything until the terrorism started. But the Muslim extremists have gotten the attention of most Americans, now. They are looking at them now. And saying screw you.

So Christians are a minority in America. They are the most abused of minorities along with homosexuals. The rich are increasingly being targetted, but not to the extent.

I am a Hindu. I see the bigotry of those who have those who hate Christians, homosexuals and the rich. You have to let go of this hate.

The last group of people on this planet I will shed any tears over are rich people. If they have any problems, they can go dry their tears with their money and shut the **** up. Money is power in this ****** up world and the powerful have armies to protect them as they exploit the rest of us. The hatred aimed at the super-rich is well-deserved and if they keep on enslaving the rest of us, they will get what they deserve as they have during other short-lived episodes of history when the anger of the masses over being treated like cattle reached the tipping point.

... but I am rich.

I am guilty of nothing. I actually do not want ANYone in America to live in a crappy apartment. Screw that crap. But actually, those in America who think they are not "rich" (which is relative - I understand what they actually mean, but bare with me on this in terms of how OTHERS see YOU who live in, oh let us say Liberia) - actially there are large populations in other parts of the world that consider you in your crappy apartment as rich.

And they want to take your rich life style for them, because they say all their problems are due to you who lives in that rich (crappy) apartment with a fridge.

Time for you to be punished, they really hate people like you rich homos in America, they get the message of their leaders who made it clear that all the failures in Liberia are because of rich satanist Americans living in those luxury apartments with fridges.

In fact, read the biggest newspaper in Liberia which just yesterday published the article in their headlines that you, those rich apartment people (homos all) gave ebola to Liberians and those aid groups who want to stem ebola are trying to steal Liberia's maasive wealth and kill the citizens with ebola - in fact this ehola was secretly formulated such that a white person cannot die from it, it only kills blacks.

And you are the satan.

Where is the evidence of Christians or rich being persecuted?

ShivaFan said:

... but I am rich.

I am guilty of nothing. I actually do not want ANYone in America to live in a crappy apartment. Screw that crap. But actually, those in America who think they are not "rich" (which is relative - I understand what they actually mean, but bare with me on this in terms of how OTHERS see YOU who live in, oh let us say Liberia) - actially there are large populations in other parts of the world that consider you in your crappy apartment as rich.

And they want to take your rich life style for them, because they say all their problems are due to you who lives in that rich (crappy) apartment with a fridge.

Time for you to be punished, they really hate people like you rich homos in America, they get the message of their leaders who made it clear that all the failures in Liberia are because of rich satanist Americans living in those luxury apartments with fridges.

In fact, read the biggest newspaper in Liberia which just yesterday published the article in their headlines that you, those rich apartment people (homos all) gave ebola to Liberians and those aid groups who want to stem ebola are trying to steal Liberia's maasive wealth and kill the citizens with ebola - in fact this ehola was secretly formulated such that a white person cannot die from it, it only kills blacks.

And you are the satan.

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We're all guilty of living in an Empire that parasitizes off the rest of the world. The difference between me and you is that I see reality as it is and don't blind myself with delusions. Some us would like to solve these problems instead of perpetuate them. Even though I'm technically impoverished in America, I am privileged compared to billions of others but I can see why that is. But I didn't create this system and have no real power in America. I'm just a poor, disabled guy teetering on the edge of homelessness living in a bed bug infested apartment (I don't even go into my bedroom anymore because of it) surrounded by third world immigrants who, ironically, have it better than I do. So if they want to hate America, they can go right ahead, because I hate America, too. (By "America", I mean the system.)