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The Bible and aliens
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Shuttlecraft
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"God hangs the earth on nothing" (Job 26:7)
"God sits on the circle of the earth" (Isaiah 40:22)
"God sits on the circle of the earth" (Isaiah 40:22)
Shuttlecraft
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The film "The Day the Earth Stood Still" stars Keanu Reeves as an alien in human form sent here to save the earth by wiping out the human race-
"The time has come for judging the dead.. and for destroying those who destroy the earth" (Revelation 11:18)
Here he meets with a fellow alien who's lived on earth for 70 years in the form of a Chinaman to watch us and send back messages about us to his home planet.-
Maybe watchers like the Chinaman are "angels" (the word can also mean 'messenger')-
"Do not forget to entertain strangers, for by so doing some people have entertained angels unawares"- (Hebrews 13:2)
"The time has come for judging the dead.. and for destroying those who destroy the earth" (Revelation 11:18)
Here he meets with a fellow alien who's lived on earth for 70 years in the form of a Chinaman to watch us and send back messages about us to his home planet.-
Maybe watchers like the Chinaman are "angels" (the word can also mean 'messenger')-
"Do not forget to entertain strangers, for by so doing some people have entertained angels unawares"- (Hebrews 13:2)
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Shuttlecraft
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Jesus said- "And even the very hairs of your head are all numbered" (Matt 10:30)
Dear Shuttlecraft,
1 Corinthians 9:19-23
19 For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more. 20 And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law; 21 To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law. 22 To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some. 23 And this I do for the gospels sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.
This is my favorite well-known scripture ("I am made all things to all men").
Do you have any visuals of this?
1 Corinthians 9:19-23
19 For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more. 20 And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law; 21 To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law. 22 To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some. 23 And this I do for the gospels sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.
This is my favorite well-known scripture ("I am made all things to all men").
Do you have any visuals of this?
Shuttlecraft
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Yes, Paul changed his style to suit his audience, just like when Riker joined Klingon vessel Pagh on an exchange visit as 1st Officer, he had to adopt a harsher style to get the attention and respect of the Klingon crew by punching 2nd Officer Klag and throwing him across the bridge..
Right Klag?
"Grrrr..."
Of course, Paul wasn't always as harsh as Riker, but he could be at times, like when he sent this warning to an early church telling them to shape up and that he was coming to slap them around-
"I already gave you a warning when I was with you the second time. I now repeat it while absent: On my return I won't spare those who sinned earlier or any of the others" (2 Cor 13:2)
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/A_Matter_Of_Honor_(episode)
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Keep it up!
Shuttlecraft
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On paper atheists seem to have a valid point, they say "We can't detect god with our 5 senses, therefore he probably doesn't exist"
But deists say "Just because our human senses can't detect him doesn't mean he doesn't exist", so the argument is back to square one..
Here's an experiment anybody can try-
Press a button on your TV remote and look at the light in the end. To your eyes it'll appear black and unlit.
But now do the same again, but this time look at the light through the viewfinder of your camcorder or digicam, and you'll see it flashing merrily away as in the pic below (unless your remote and cam wavelengths are different)-
The moral?- Cams can see things that our eyes can't. Likewise our senses can't detect God.
PS- maybe UFO-hunters on hilltops at night should do regular sweeps looking through their cam viewfinder to see if it detects anything that their eyes can't, just a thought..
"God goes by me but I see him not" (Job 9:10)
"God rides upon a swift cloud" (Isaiah 19:1)
"Praise to the Lord, to him who rides the ancient skies above,
whose power is in the skies" (Psalm 68:33-34)
But deists say "Just because our human senses can't detect him doesn't mean he doesn't exist", so the argument is back to square one..
Here's an experiment anybody can try-
Press a button on your TV remote and look at the light in the end. To your eyes it'll appear black and unlit.
But now do the same again, but this time look at the light through the viewfinder of your camcorder or digicam, and you'll see it flashing merrily away as in the pic below (unless your remote and cam wavelengths are different)-
The moral?- Cams can see things that our eyes can't. Likewise our senses can't detect God.
PS- maybe UFO-hunters on hilltops at night should do regular sweeps looking through their cam viewfinder to see if it detects anything that their eyes can't, just a thought..
"God goes by me but I see him not" (Job 9:10)
"God rides upon a swift cloud" (Isaiah 19:1)
"Praise to the Lord, to him who rides the ancient skies above,
whose power is in the skies" (Psalm 68:33-34)
Shuttlecraft
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He has his fun down on earth-
Paul said- "The devil prowls round like a roaring lion" (1 Peter 5:8 )
Jesus said "Satan has bound this crippled woman for eighteen years" (Luke 13:16)
Satan draws his power from the dark thoughts of the human race, a bit like the invisible monster in 'Forbidden Planet' which draws its power from the dark subconscious of Dr. Morbius.
Hence the warning to keep our minds pure so that Satan can't feed off our nasty thoughts-
"Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things" (Philp 4:8)
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Dear TDz86,
do you really want a space ship?
And I don't know Satan might really not have one.
do you really want a space ship?
And I don't know Satan might really not have one.
Whiterain
Get me off of this planet
He has his fun down on earth-
Paul said- "The devil prowls round like a roaring lion" (1 Peter 5:8 )
Jesus said "Satan has bound this crippled woman for eighteen years" (Luke 13:16)
Satan draws his power from the dark thoughts of the human race, a bit like the invisible monster in 'Forbidden Planet' which draws its power from the dark subconscious of Dr. Morbius.
Hence the warning to keep our minds pure so that Satan can't feed off our nasty thoughts-
"Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirableif anything is excellent or praiseworthythink about such things" (Philp 4:8)
[youtube]IYFr3UyVpRA[/youtube]
When you start having encounters with invisible beings you're living a lie.
Live the lie.
Satan is reported of being on earth many times in the Bible and as late as to Joseph Smith.
It says in Revelation 12:12,
12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
So we know Satan visits the earth with a space craft today, trying his hardest to make us fail.
The devil has no space craft however; the devil resides in hell to torture; just a machine. I can't back that up scripturally. If you need clarificiation ask me.
It says in Revelation 12:12,
12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
So we know Satan visits the earth with a space craft today, trying his hardest to make us fail.
The devil has no space craft however; the devil resides in hell to torture; just a machine. I can't back that up scripturally. If you need clarificiation ask me.
Just a reminder of what I said. Demons are bad angels/E.T.s and the devil is a robot like in Futurama who only lives in hell. So there really is no devil.
I need Mormon scriptures to back this up.
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
What the hell are you talking about?
This is actually Satan and not the devil. He's just using the devil. The devil is just a torturing machine. The devil's permanent place is in hell, but I need Mormon scriptures to show that.
So Satan has a spacecraft.
What the hell are you talking about?
Oh, Katzpur, I see you are Mormon! Just go to scriptures.lds.org and type in "devil hell" as your search terms and you'll see what I mean.
Shuttlecraft
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In the Star Trek episode 'Wolf in the Fold', Scotty stabs a woman to death and is sentenced to death by the planets bosses-
His only defence is "I canna remember doing it!", which of course the jury don't buy.
It turns out he was temporarily possessed by the same malign spiritual entity ('demon') that also possessed other murderers down the centuries including Jack the Ripper-
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"Star Trek" Wolf in the Fold (TV Episode 1967) - IMDb
Possession is not a new idea of course-
Jesus said- ""When an evil spirit comes out of a man, it goes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it.
Then it says, 'I will return to the house I left.'
When it arrives, it finds the house unoccupied, swept clean and put in order.
Then it goes and takes with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there." (Matt 12:43-45)
The moral?- Mindmeld with Jesus to get him and God into our heads to act as bouncers to keep the nasty stuff out..
Jesus said- "On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you" (John 14:20)
His only defence is "I canna remember doing it!", which of course the jury don't buy.
It turns out he was temporarily possessed by the same malign spiritual entity ('demon') that also possessed other murderers down the centuries including Jack the Ripper-
[youtube]IsA4Egj3f08[/youtube]
"Star Trek" Wolf in the Fold (TV Episode 1967) - IMDb
Possession is not a new idea of course-
Jesus said- ""When an evil spirit comes out of a man, it goes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it.
Then it says, 'I will return to the house I left.'
When it arrives, it finds the house unoccupied, swept clean and put in order.
Then it goes and takes with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there." (Matt 12:43-45)
The moral?- Mindmeld with Jesus to get him and God into our heads to act as bouncers to keep the nasty stuff out..
Jesus said- "On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you" (John 14:20)